Adam Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 The jury is out on Whitner and Pozluzny- I cut them slack. After all, I could beat out Kevin Williams, Ryan Denney and Chris Kelsay. You have to have guys in front of you to make plays. Stroud must get lonely being the only guy up front. We could cut every offensive lineman other than Peters for all I care, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stenbar Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 The jury is out on Whitner and Pozluzny- I cut them slack. After all, I could beat out Kevin Williams, Ryan Denney and Chris Kelsay. You have to have guys in front of you to make plays. Stroud must get lonely being the only guy up front. We could cut every offensive lineman other than Peters for all I care, I think they are playing Whitner to far back to make any plays IMO..I agree that jury is still out..The problem with that is after 3 full years in the NFL it shouldnt be..With a different defense he might be a stud.. I would keep BUtler also, he keeps getting better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 The jury is out on Whitner and Pozluzny- I cut them slack. After all, I could beat out Kevin Williams, Ryan Denney and Chris Kelsay. Doubt that, but a pass rush would be nice. We could cut every offensive lineman other than Peters for all I care, Agreed - FatBoy can be traded for draft picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StupidNation Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 not saying that the media and 'experts' know more about football then we do (not like they have insider information or playing experience or anything) but did you catch Cower and Boomer talking about Edwards before the start of the Jets/Dolphins game? Cower says Trent threw the ball with zip into the wind and looked more comfortable out there in those conditions then he did late last season and Boomer said that Edwards has shown more then enough in only his 2nd season and that adding maybe one more playmaker along with better coaching/game plan and he wouldn't be surprised if he is one of the best young qb's in a season or two. just for what it's worth... Those guys aren't talent evaluators!!! Just ask the multitude of idiots who think he has to be top 5 to be any good. Will Edwards be top 5? Most likely no, but he will be top ten. Good but not great QB. That's enough. He's Mark Brunell without the running capabilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cåblelady Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 4) Allow me to extend an olive branch to those who blindly worshipped Losman. The fact is that he is finally gone, and it wouldn't be a bad thing to support the guy who is, and will continue to be the starting quarterback of your favorite football team. Besides, the kid is good. Trent Edwards SUCKS !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StupidNation Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Another idiot who thinks ZERO points is a good outing for a QB. Well done. Yes the QB is the whole offense. If Edwards made plays and Whitner just doesn't does that mean that to you Edwards is below average and Whitner flat out sucks? Of course you won't say that because you're not objective. You've blamed the D-line on Whitner and injury. You're an idiot and a partisan idiot. Sure you and VOR can have your "Edwards sucks" fest without any evidence of it. Edwards played good as a QB, and the last time I checked he isn't the whole offense. To say zero points all falls on Edwards is a joke, just like you and VOR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanahan's Horseshoe Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 I think they are playing Whitner to far back to make any plays IMO..I agree that jury is still out..The problem with that is after 3 full years in the NFL it shouldnt be..With a different defense he might be a stud.. I would keep BUtler also, he keeps getting better... You have to be kidding me right? A stud? He plays up near the line, did you watch the game today, he was the midget in the #20 jersey getting folded in half at the line of scrimmage! He is to small to walk up to the LOS! Quit making excuses for Donte!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stenbar Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 You have to be kidding me right? A stud? He plays up near the line, did you watch the game today, he was the midget in the #20 jersey getting folded in half at the line of scrimmage! He is to small to walk up to the LOS! Quit making excuses for Donte!!! No I didnt watch the game today...I was working..BUt the games I did see (14 of them) he was back so far he was out of the picture most times..No excuse making I expect a lot more out of him however this staff has misused alomost every player and down and distance advatntage they ever encountered.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 i think the biggest roster issues for our team are 1. play maker on O. we need someone besides evans. i like winslow jr, but we need a good big body stud play maker. 2. pass rush. we need at least one more player (and aaron to come back healthy, if he can) in there who can get after the passer. peppers would look good in blue, lets throw the bank at him. 3. line backers. i really think our linebackers are about the weakest unit on the team. ellison should have never seen the pitch with crow playing (god that sucked), mitchel is ok, and poz isn't a tenth of the player his ball washers make him out to be. i think #3 relates to my next point strongly: we have done damage to our team drafting players for special teams. parrish, mclovin, mcgee (although the last 2 have other abilities and i think mclovin might be very good soon) are all on our team in large part due to special teams play. our safties, linemen, and other LBs are all good or very good special teams guys as well, but the cost is our depth is crap and we are too small up front. the bottom line size of our front seven is lacking, and i think that's in part because we have so many of them in special teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Coli Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Yes the QB is the whole offense. If Edwards made plays and Whitner just doesn't does that mean that to you Edwards is below average and Whitner flat out sucks? Of course you won't say that because you're not objective. You've blamed the D-line on Whitner and injury. You're an idiot and a partisan idiot. Sure you and VOR can have your "Edwards sucks" fest without any evidence of it. Edwards played good as a QB, and the last time I checked he isn't the whole offense. To say zero points all falls on Edwards is a joke, just like you and VOR. Fred Jackson had 136 yards rushing, the defense held the Pats to 13 points, and the offense scored zero points. Edwards did nothing to help the team and was responsible for a TO that led to the only TD of the game. That is unacceptable. Its laughable to me that you and others think this was a well-managed game by the QB. People point to other teams and say that the Bills don't need a gunslinger, etc. You say they just need a guy who keeps the offense on the field, manages a good game, puts his team in a position to win when it counts, doesn't turn over the ball. He did none of that, and has not been that type of a QB for a season and a half, now. The running game had 136 yards and the offense scored zero points. At home. That is astounding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Fred Jackson had 136 yards rushing, the defense held the Pats to 13 points, and the offense scored zero points. Edwards did nothing to help the team and was responsible for a TO that led to the only TD of the game. That is unacceptable. Its laughable to me that you and others think this was a well-managed game by the QB. People point to other teams and say that the Bills don't need a gunslinger, etc. You say they just need a guy who keeps the offense on the field, manages a good game, puts his team in a position to win when it counts, doesn't turn over the ball. He did none of that, and has not been that type of a QB for a season and a half, now. The running game had 136 yards and the offense scored zero points. At home. That is astounding. The game was managed by the coaches. When our QB was asked to pass the ball, he passed it well in severely high winds. That's all I'm saying here (not sure about others). The sack fumble would not be considered "on the QB" in the film review considering the LG's man came free and blindsided our QB within 2 seconds. That man is supposed to be accounted for and most plays run out atleast 3 or more seconds. The Golden boy on the other sideline did no more than our QB did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Trent Edwards SUCKS !! Very succinct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flbillsfan#1 Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 The game was managed by the coaches. When our QB was asked to pass the ball, he passed it well in severely high winds. That's all I'm saying here (not sure about others). The sack fumble would not be considered "on the QB" in the film review considering the LG's man came free and blindsided our QB within 2 seconds. That man is supposed to be accounted for and most plays run out atleast 3 or more seconds. The Golden boy on the other sideline did no more than our QB did. 13-0 says he did more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bisonbrigade Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 The running game including the blocking was excellent today. Especialy considering that the Pat's knew that we would'nt pass much. Besides the bonehead play at the end of the 1st half Duke Preston played well. I would resign him, but bring in another quality center to challenge him in camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cåblelady Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Very succinct. Thank you. (P.S.......JP sucks, too!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Thank you. (P.S.......JP sucks, too!) Who's JP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cåblelady Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Who's JP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Gotta have a short memory... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 13-0 says he did more. Nope. Preston cost us 3 and Dockery's wiff gave them the ball in our territory. The ran in the red zone and we didn't. There's your 13-0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 4) Allow me to extend an olive branch to those who blindly worshipped Losman. The fact is that he is finally gone, and it wouldn't be a bad thing to support the guy who is, and will continue to be the starting quarterback of your favorite football team. Besides, the kid is good. I know you consider me in this group. But I hope you can start to see that the problems run much deeper than QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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