Shamrock Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Was talking with a friend and he mentioned that teams generally have to have a good nucleus of guys that HATE freakin' losing and this attitude rubs off. Not just being unhappy with losing, but are PI$$ED off with being beat, it's an insult. So i got thinking, which players on the Bills despise losing, or seem driven to winning... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Was talking with a friend and he mentioned that teams generally have to have a good nucleus of guys that HATE freakin' losing and this attitude rubs off. Not just being unhappy with losing, but are PI$$ED off with being beat, it's an insult. So i got thinking, which players on the Bills despise losing, or seem driven to winning... I'd say: Whitner Schobel Maybe Stroud Mitchell I think Butler despite him being powerless to stop it. That's all I've got. To be fair to Trent I think he probably hates losing his gloves or his Los Gatos public library card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliteqb Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 I'd say Kawika and um err uh......let me get back to you on that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckeyeBill Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Whitner certainly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbillsfan12 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 london fletcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 I'd say Kawika he's got a strange way of showing it Really good topic Shamrock. Unfortunately I can't come up with more than Whitner. Our good character guys are philosophical and contemplative. We do not have someone willing to rip out the heart of the opposition. We are seriously lacking in nastiness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt in KC Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 I'd guess the top loss-haters are: Josh Reed, Whitner and Lynch. (While I think Lynch hates losing, he is NOT vocal.) In the recent past: London Fletcher and Takeo Spikes. I actually wondered if this had something to do with their release. If a team is close, then this fire can push the team to elevate their play. But the Bills were suffering when these two were released and I think their emotional displays may have driven a sense of division on the team. I saw these two yelling furiously (especially LF-B) and not looking at anyone as they went to the locker room a number of times after a loss, pissed off at the loss and apparently their team/teammates. I agree this fire is missing right now, but it's more than just passion, it's motivation, which is a bit trickier. I wish we had a vocal respected leader on this team to get them fired up and "come out swinging". The current apparent attitude ("Darn, it looks like another loss this weekend. Well, we tried.") starting with the coaches is really getting me down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Nate Clements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Not sure that anyone qualifies - too much "it's hard to get victories in this league." sentiment. Comes from the coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Dave Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Not sure that anyone qualifies - too much "it's hard to get victories in this league." sentiment. Comes from the coach Bingo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfreak Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 I would say I have no doubt that Pozlusny hates losing, he has an old school mentality about football which you have to love about him. I would probably agree with Whitner also. Edwards probably got used to losing at Stanford where they one about 1 game a year. Someone who already posted hasn't been watching for a couple years, London Fletcher hasn't been a Bill for a couple seasons now. I guess the more you think about it, not too many Bills fit this category, but then again not a whole lot of NFL players period fit this category. Fans hate losing more than the players do for the most part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynical Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 I would say I have no doubt that Pozlusny hates losing, he has an old school mentality about football which you have to love about him. I would probably agree with Whitner also. Edwards probably got used to losing at Stanford where they one about 1 game a year. Someone who already posted hasn't been watching for a couple years, London Fletcher hasn't been a Bill for a couple seasons now. I guess the more you think about it, not too many Bills fit this category, but then again not a whole lot of NFL players period fit this category. Fans hate losing more than the players do for the most part. You missed his point. London Fletcher was the last Bills player that publicly displayed disgust with losing. Since then, the Bills really do not have a player of that category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 You missed his point. London Fletcher was the last Bills player that publicly displayed disgust with losing. Since then, the Bills really do not have a player of that category. I wouldn't really say anyone. And if there is someone, he must not really get his views accross to the other players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cody Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 The problem with losing is that after you do it so many times, you get desensitized to it. This team has lost its hatred for losing, because they have done it so much the past few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 The problem with losing is that after you do it so many times, you get desensitized to it.This team has lost its hatred for losing, because they have done it so much the past few years. Not to mention this is a very young team with very little experience with winning. Kawika Mitchell and Marcus Stroud are the only veterans with any sort of playoff experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynical Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Not to mention this is a very young team with very little experience with winning. Kawika Mitchell and Marcus Stroud are the only veterans with any sort of playoff experience. I think playoff experience has little to do with a guy being a motivator. Motivators can be of any experience. They just have the drive and desire to win, hate to lose, and have no problem letting others know. Playoff experience is better at keeping younger players on a more even keel, and keeping your eyes on the target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 I think playoff experience has little to do with a guy being a motivator. Motivators can be of any experience. They just have the drive and desire to win, hate to lose, and have no problem letting others know. Playoff experience is better at keeping younger players on a more even keel, and keeping your eyes on the target. I agree that playoff experience is not equal to leadership. But, I don't completely dismiss the value of experience. Nor do I equate leadership with motivational speaking. Frankly, dismissing a young know-it-all isn't all that uncommon a human reaction. I guess that's why they don't come out of West Point with 5 stars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiew Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 The Biscuit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChasBB Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 No worries. Jauron just told the guys in practice today "Let's correct our mistakes". We're good now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin in Va Beach Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Nate Clements. Dunno about Nate. He went after money, not wins. I'm sure he could have gone to a better team had he accepted a little less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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