JimBob2232 Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 I preface this with saying I DO NOT KNOW if this is true, but a respected and well known poster on another board I frequent says that FOX Radio in Denver reported a list of players to be suspended, and that that list includes Donte Whitner.... Deuce McAllister (NO) Will Smith (NO) Donte Whitner (BUF) Leon Washington (NYJ) Warrick Dunn (TB) Jason Ferguson (MIA) Eddie Royal (DEN) Ben Utecht (CIN) Malcolm Floyd (SD) Dawan Landry (BAL) Cornelius Griffen (WAS) Dont shoot the messanger if this is wrong...just putting it out there. BIG loss if true... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mchammer Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3661845 I did not see Whitner's name show up in article but they did not mention every player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guffalo Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 I saw the New Orleans players but not Donte, although they do say several players failed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKOOBY Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 BS, I have scoured everywhere and that list is not reliable. I preface this with saying I DO NOT KNOW if this is true, but a respected and well known poster on another board I frequent says that FOX Radio in Denver reported a list of players to be suspended, and that that list includes Donte Whitner.... Deuce McAllister (NO) Will Smith (NO) Donte Whitner (BUF) Leon Washington (NYJ) Warrick Dunn (TB) Jason Ferguson (MIA) Eddie Royal (DEN) Ben Utecht (CIN) Malcolm Floyd (SD) Dawan Landry (BAL) Cornelius Griffen (WAS) Dont shoot the messanger if this is wrong...just putting it out there. BIG loss if true... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VOR Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 If anyone on the Bills, I'd be willing to bet it's Simpson and not Whitner. Simpson has gone from starter to backup even though he's healthy, and this would explain it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantelliotoffen Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 BS, Charles Grant is supposed to be on the list too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBob2232 Posted October 25, 2008 Author Share Posted October 25, 2008 BS, I have scoured everywhere and that list is not reliable. I hope you are right... ....But I suspect otherwise... Dunn Suprises me as well. Makes me think these guys got caught up in something akin to eating a poppy seed bagel before a drug test. But regardless...we will see shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantelliotoffen Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 What happened to guys just using Star Caps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 I hope you are right... ....But I suspect otherwise... Dunn Suprises me as well. Makes me think these guys got caught up in something akin to eating a poppy seed bagel before a drug test. But regardless...we will see shortly. If it's someone on another board, can you please provide a link then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=435108 To answer my own question, here you go. If you also watch Clayton's video referred to in that post he says the number is 18 in total and that "there are some other big names" on it, so this might be true. If so, that will really suck, but at least it's not Stroud on the list, who'd have to serve a year off. I would still be very disappointed in Donte if this turns out to be true, since it's not like he's a big guy who needed to lose the weight from a diuretic..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Last thoughts on this--I take back what I said above. Whitner's a bit of a chunky guy, so he may in fact have taken this to lose weight. Donte's shown too much character to date to not be given the benefit of the doubt on this by fans. Still, anyone else wonder if the recent secondary reshufflings (putting Scott in Donte's old spot) might be the result of the coaching staff preparing for a few games without Mr. Whitner? Let's just hope that Ko, Ashton and Terrence are all healthy if and when Donte serves his 4 games...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estro Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Everyone on that list is a starter and a key contributor to their respective team. You would think that a list of all the players who are guilty of taking the "water pill" would include some no namers and third stringers. It looks to me like that list could very well be made up, at leats that's what I hope. Whitner would be a big loss especially with all of our divisional games imminent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Quint Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/foot.../nfl.doping.ap/ From SI.com. The article was published yesterday at 3pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 This list is bogus for 2 reasons 1) there are not 4 players from NO on it 2) There is no Texan on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In-A-Gadda-Levitre Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 one thing I don't understand and maybe someone can explain it... Other than the fact that Bumetanide could be a masking agent, why are simple 'water pills' banned? Releasing excess water that the body retains doesn't sound very much like a performance enhancer, but I'm no pharmacist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills44 Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 one thing I don't understand and maybe someone can explain it... Other than the fact that Bumetanide could be a masking agent, why are simple 'water pills' banned? Releasing excess water that the body retains doesn't sound very much like a performance enhancer, but I'm no pharmacist. I think that's the key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=435108 To answer my own question, here you go. If you also watch Clayton's video referred to in that post he says the number is 18 in total and that "there are some other big names" on it, so this might be true. If so, that will really suck, but at least it's not Stroud on the list, who'd have to serve a year off. I would still be very disappointed in Donte if this turns out to be true, since it's not like he's a big guy who needed to lose the weight from a diuretic..... This is not about simply about weight loss. Diuretics are taken to flush other drugs out of the system in an attempt to mask steroid use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKOOBY Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 This list is bogus for 2 reasons1) there are not 4 players from NO on it 2) There is no Texan on it. ESPN updated it with 1 texans player & 3 saints, oh when the saints.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 This is not about simply about weight loss. Diuretics are can be taken to flush other drugs out of the system in an attempt to mask steroid use. Fixed. It is crazy to think that everybody who uses diuretics does it to mask/flush other drugs. But, they are on the list of what is prohibited, so either way, they are a no-no. But, IMO, they should not be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 To be fair to McAllister, if he took steroids/HGH to heal more effectively after tearing up both knees, from his perspective a four game suspension is less serious than a shot career. One quick note about HGH: Pettite took it to help his injured elbow heal. If it can work as a medicine/healing agent, why is always bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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