taterhill Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 Yes please tell me how to live my life......F---------- What is next for these people...booze? cigarettes? nudity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 What is next for these people...booze? cigarettes? nudity? One often leads to the other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yall Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 Yes please tell me how to live my life......F---------- What is next for these people...booze? cigarettes? nudity? You are missing the point. The ruling isn't "gambling bad". It's saying the Seneca's can't just buy land wherever they please, tag it as sovereign, and then ignore state laws. The Indian Gaming Commission ignored law passed by congress and made a decision that was wrong under the letter and the spirit of the law. In other words, the Fed's got this one right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sen. John Blutarsky Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 In related news, the Sovereign Nation of Petoria has seceded from Rhode Island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 In related news, the Sovereign Nation of Petoria has seceded from Rhode Island. And then they invaded Johio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 And then they invaded Johio Ugh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasper13 Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 In other words, there goes $333 million that was going to be invested in downtown Buffalo. There goes 1,100 jobs that were to be created and now we will have a 9 acre vacant lot downtown. Actually, the vacant lot will fit in pefectly. All due to 12 people against casino gambling that filed the lawsuit. Some big politicians were involved in the lawsuit- former County Executive and current lobbyist Joel Giambra, Arthur Eve and Sam Hoyt among others. Way to go douchebags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 Just FYI as my wife works as a dealer at our local Indian Casino....... There is NOTHING to employ people in Hemet and everyone has to commute out if they are not working at that Casino. They also make big money contributions to charities and to the local juco college every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEDFREDJACKSONNOW Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 In other words, there goes $333 million that was going to be invested in downtown Buffalo. There goes 1,100 jobs that were to be created and now we will have a 9 acre vacant lot downtown. Actually, the vacant lot will fit in pefectly. All due to 12 people against casino gambling that filed the lawsuit. Some big politicians were involved in the lawsuit- former County Executive and current lobbyist Joel Giambra, Arthur Eve and Sam Hoyt among others. Way to go douchebags. Blame the Senecas for the blight. They took a "gamble" and started construction, knowing full well that they could lose this suit. They have to stop construction immediately. What they will do with the property is anyone's guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 Blame the Senecas for the blight. They took a "gamble" and started construction, knowing full well that they could lose this suit. They have to stop construction immediately. What they will do with the property is anyone's guess. Maybe just let it sit, vacant, and allow the city to reclaim for back taxes owed in a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetbaboo Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 hey, that's too bad...i wouldn't want a casino in my town but buffalo's no longer my backyard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnykterstein Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 Hey Thanks for the good news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 You are missing the point. The ruling isn't "gambling bad". It's saying the Seneca's can't just buy land wherever they please, tag it as sovereign, and then ignore state laws. The Indian Gaming Commission ignored law passed by congress and made a decision that was wrong under the letter and the spirit of the law. In other words, the Fed's got this one right. Exactly. As for the 'lost' revenue to Buffalo? Who's going to be doing all the gambling and losing? People from Buffalo. Thanks but this is just another way to circulate money through the government and Buffalo is already Exhibit A for why that is a friggin disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 They should have just stuck with the Cheektowaga site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agilen Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 I was against the casino before they started building it....I said "wait and see what happens in Niagara Falls for 10 years." But now....they've already started building the thing. There is a grand plan for a new downtown when the casino, HSBC and Bass Pro are all in a row. Since it has already begun, I say let it happen. Now its just another ugly dump site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yall Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 They should have just stuck with the Cheektowaga site. Again, still would have been illegal. And for those of you who claim this would make Buffalo so much better, have you been to the Falls lately? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 Exactly. As for the 'lost' revenue to Buffalo? Who's going to be doing all the gambling and losing? People from Buffalo. Thanks but this is just another way to circulate money through the government and Buffalo if already Exhibit A for why that is a friggin disaster. Indeed. The S. Indiana casino's revenue for the 1st half of this year was 1.3 billion. Yes, they hire people and pay taxes...but money does fly out of the area. http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a...080063/1076/BIZ I read a year or so in the local paper, that the casinos were pleased that they met a benchmark in the sales biz, a so-called "80/20" rule, meaning that 80% of revenue comes from 20% of their customers. I doubt that 20% are tourists... There's no lack of studies that state that a casino's revenue comes mostly within a 100 mile radius. We likely will have yet another State ballot issue on gambling - the casino interests want to put a gigantic mecca more or less in the middle of the State. There have been previous Issues put to the voter - and defeated (don't ascribe wisdom to the OH voter. They voted for a minimum wage hike with yearly escalation tied to the cost of living index, and another expected Issue this November that will require that any business with 20 or more employees give 7 paid sick days per year, no questions asked. OH is easily in the top five of tax burden - which is why businesses are flying out left and right). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 Maybe just let it sit, vacant, and allow the city to reclaim for back taxes owed in a few years. If it belongs to the Nation there wouldn't be any back taxes would there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeyemike Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 We likely will have yet another State ballot issue on gambling - the casino interests want to put a gigantic mecca more or less in the middle of the State. There have been previous Issues put to the voter - and defeated (don't ascribe wisdom to the OH voter. They voted for a minimum wage hike with yearly escalation tied to the cost of living index, and another expected Issue this November that will require that any business with 20 or more employees give 7 paid sick days per year, no questions asked. OH is easily in the top five of tax burden - which is why businesses are flying out left and right). The casino site is really more between Columbus and Cincinnati. It's still a four-hour drive from Cleveland...why go there when Presque Isle and Mountaineer are two hours away? This will be the fourth time since 1990 that casino gambling has been in front of Ohio voters...and it's been voted down handily the previous three times. My guess is that Ohio will eventually get casinos, as soon as the state figures out how the "right" people can make boatloads of money off it. It may take until 2020 or so, but I believe it is coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 The casino site is really more between Columbus and Cincinnati. It's still a four-hour drive from Cleveland...why go there when Presque Isle and Mountaineer are two hours away? This will be the fourth time since 1990 that casino gambling has been in front of Ohio voters...and it's been voted down handily the previous three times. My guess is that Ohio will eventually get casinos, as soon as the state figures out how the "right" people can make boatloads of money off it. It may take until 2020 or so, but I believe it is coming. Thanks for the location clarification. Down here, a couple of members of the Cincinnati City Council (Clowncil) have pushed for slots at the horse race tracks. For several years. That moneyed crowd that wants to build OH casinos are their allies. Back when I was a barfly, I mentioned the idea to a fellow barfly, who was a big race bettor. I thought he would like the idea - but to my surprise, he was very much opposed. His objection was that if there were slots at River Downs and the Lebanon trotter tracks, his da*n wife would want to tag along! I felt his pain... I wish they had OTB here like, NYS, or Dial-A-Bet like PA. The worse you can do betting on the ponies is what?...a one-in-12 shot at getting your money back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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