Albany,n.y. Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Doesn't matter, but the last 3 picks didn't even get a writeup from him in his draft report. Now if we had more Kiper fans they'd be going as ballistic as the idiots who are quoting from other draft sources & declaring that the Bills front office is messing up the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneonta Buffalo Fan Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Doesn't matter, but the last 3 picks didn't even get a writeup from him in his draft report. Now if we had more Kiper fans they'd be going as ballistic as the idiots who are quoting from other draft sources & declaring that the Bills front office is messing up the draft. Good, let him underrate this team. I can wait till we surprise everyone this season and prove him and EVERYONE on ESPN (not Chris Berman) wrong. We are having a great draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep2evans Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 I would much rather get a bad grade from Kiper than a good one. The guy is worthless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulinski Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Doesn't matter, but the last 3 picks didn't even get a writeup from him in his draft report. Now if we had more Kiper fans they'd be going as ballistic as the idiots who are quoting from other draft sources & declaring that the Bills front office is messing up the draft. Who cares what he says. He's entitled to his opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 We got a bad grade from him in 2006. It doesn't matter, at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBilliever Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Lets see... We had needs at WR, TE, FB and apparently CB and DE to people here (Derrick Harvey Derrick Harvey! He's got to be the pick! Derrick Harvey!). So... WR? Check, tallest in the draft class. TE? Check, Derek Fine. CB? Check, Best in the draft and a short random one. DE? Check, Chris Ellis, third round, great pass rusher. LB Depth? Check, 2006 leader in solo tackles. What are we missing here then? FB? Owen Schmitt and Jehuu Caulcrick are still on the board. DOOM, DOOM, PAIN AND SUFFERING!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Corner isn't random, NFLN said he was excellent value in the 4th and a very good corner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep2evans Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Lets see... We had needs at WR, TE, FB and apparently CB and DE to people here (Derrick Harvey Derrick Harvey! He's got to be the pick! Derrick Harvey!). So... WR? Check, tallest in the draft class. TE? Check, Derek Fine. CB? Check, Best in the draft and a short random one. DE? Check, Chris Ellis, third round, great pass rusher. LB Depth? Check, 2006 leader in solo tackles. What are we missing here then? FB? Owen Schmitt and Jehuu Caulcrick are still on the board. DOOM, DOOM, PAIN AND SUFFERING!? But yet some say he wouldn't put these guys on a high school football squad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulinski Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 But yet some say he wouldn't put these guys on a high school football squad... :lol: Who says ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lets_go_bills Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 I don't even care what Kiper has to say. He's an idiot. Mike Mayock is the real King of Draft anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Questfor31 Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Mel Keiper doesn't like the Buffalo Bills. He always gives us a bad draft grade. The Marv Levy era and psot Levy has been full of high character guys that produce onthe field. I've been very happy with the last few drafts including this one. This year the Bills addressed our glaring needs and added some depth. I think the Bills scouting department does a fair job of evaualting talent. I like the young, talented team they are putting on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodnarb Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 When Kipers stops being a joke I'll start to care about his opinion. His mocks are never accurate, and his opinions are often political. And his hair, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Why all the hate for Kiper? You do realize, if it weren't for him, we would all most likely be waiting for a complete list of all the Bills draft picks, to be printed on the transactions page of the Monday moring addition of the Buffalo News? So, he isn't always right? Name me one analyst that has as long a track record, that is better? I know it has become sports fan etiquette to trash everyone/anything that is considered "establishment" (in todays ADD world, that means anything older than 3 years), but Kiper does a great job, IMO. I don't see why his opinions are viewed as "political" (he isn't affiliated with any NFL teams, or any scouting organization), and he does his homework. His obsessive nature is what has made the NFL draft an event. For my money, Kiper and Chris Landry (who often differ on players) are the two best in the business. Not because they are always 100 per cent right, but they have put the effort in to know how to evaluate these college players. BTW- while I don't recall Kiper loving our 2006 draft, I don't think he was nearly as critical as others. IIRC, his main gripe was that he felt the Bills could have gotten essentially the same players, and picked up an extra higher round pick in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marauderswr80 Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 If we make the playoffs and the rooks have an impact, its a win for the Bills........ Although, I have to admit I love the first 2 picks of the draft, however the last few im iffy about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 High grades in the draft go to the teams who had the most early picks, made the most trades and took the most high profile players. The Bills will get the standard B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 High grades in the draft go to the teams who had the most early picks, made the most trades and took the most high profile players. The Bills will get the standard B. We're just now approaching a time where we can grade our 2006 draft. Too soon for anytjing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Color me shocked. Yawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneonta Buffalo Fan Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Good, let him underrate this team. I can wait till we surprise everyone this season and prove him and EVERYONE on ESPN (not Chris Berman) wrong. We are having a great draft. AFC East Mel Kiper Buffalo Bills: GRADE: C+ Cornerback Leodis McKelvin is going to be a very good player and I liked the pick. James Hardy is the big wide receiver the Bills need, someone who can be a threat in the red zone. Virginia Tech DE Chris Ellis is a decent pass-rusher, and I thought CB Reggie Corner and TE Derek Fine were reaches in the fourth round. I did like their late-round picks, RB Xavier Omon, OT Demetrius Bell and WR Steve Johnson. Like I said before, Mel's one of the biggest Buffalo haters and that C+ is an example.....I can't wait to prove him WRONG! WE WILL SURPRISE EVERYONE! FORGET YOU MEL!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 I like Mel but don't really care if he gives us a bad grade. Reggie Corner was not invited to the combine so I do not even know if Mel knew about him. I like that Corner pick and think he would of gone much higher if he was invited to the combine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mary owen Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 AFC East Like I said before, Mel's one of the biggest Buffalo haters and that C+ is an example.....I can't wait to prove him WRONG! WE WILL SURPRISE EVERYONE! FORGET YOU MEL!!! Mel gave the Redskins a B+ http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft08/colu...&id=3357479 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Mel gave the Redskins a B+ http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft08/colu...&id=3357479 I would too. They had a great draft IMO Notice how he gives Cleveland a nice grade (a B+ )- he factors in them trading their second and third round picks for Corey Williams and Shawn Rogers, for their draft grade. He grades Minnesota's draft on the curve(B ), factoring in Jared Allen. But he gives us a C+, and does not factor in Marcus Stroud. That tells me he paid little attention to us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneonta Buffalo Fan Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 I would too. They had a great draft IMO Notice how he gives Cleveland a nice grade (a B+ )- he factors in them trading their second and third round picks for Corey Williams and Shawn Rogers, for their draft grade. He grades Minnesota's draft on the curve(B ), factoring in Jared Allen. But he gives us a C+, and does not factor in Marcus Stroud. That tells me he paid little attention to us All the more reason to show how bad of an "expert" he is when our guys play great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted April 28, 2008 Author Share Posted April 28, 2008 AFC East Like I said before, Mel's one of the biggest Buffalo haters and that C+ is an example.....I can't wait to prove him WRONG! WE WILL SURPRISE EVERYONE! FORGET YOU MEL!!! It has nothing to do with hating Buffalo. The Bills picked 3 guys in a row in rounds 4 & 5 who he didn't even give a write-up to in his report. That indicates he viewed them as not draftable. He's going off his ratings. If the Bills had picked guys he rated a round or two earlier in those spots and beyond, he would have praised them. It's not about Buffalo, it's about Mel doing a CYA in relation to his draft guide. Remember when he didn't have Fina written up and Fina was calling him out after being picked in the 1st round? Mel doesn't care what the team is, he bases his grades on his own numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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