flyingant Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Height: 6'3"Weight: 245 College: Kansas Hybrid fullback/tight ends/H-backs are underappreciated players in today's NFL offenses. A guy who can pick up blitzes, chip on defensive ends, cancel linebackers at the second level and move the chains (46 receptions, 394 yards, four touchdowns in '07) in the passing game is very valuable. Fine has the ability to be just that type of player, and will likely be selected earlier than most expect. He should also be a contributor on special teams coverage units as he did at Kansas. Expected size for "moving" tight end/fullback. ... Excellent effort and upper body flexibility to block defensive ends or linebackers on the run. ... Very good receiver who runs precise routes and does not drop many balls. ... Reliable, tough, hard-working character guy. ... Good effort and open-field tackling ability on special teams. Sound like he might be our fullback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fewell733 Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 weird pick - seems like a H-back, which we supposedly aren't using anymore and already have Schouman. Could he be a full time FB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
You Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Yea, he is a "FINE" choice. Typical Bills pick, taking a guy we've never heard of. I watched many college football games, and I never saw Derek Fine on TV. And the analysts don't seem to have an opinion either. What does that tell you? CRAPPY PICK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 NOT pleased wit the last 2 picks. It feels like we are drafting for special teams as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse89 Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Height: 6'3"Weight: 245 College: Kansas Hybrid fullback/tight ends/H-backs are underappreciated players in today's NFL offenses. A guy who can pick up blitzes, chip on defensive ends, cancel linebackers at the second level and move the chains (46 receptions, 394 yards, four touchdowns in '07) in the passing game is very valuable. Fine has the ability to be just that type of player, and will likely be selected earlier than most expect. He should also be a contributor on special teams coverage units as he did at Kansas. Expected size for "moving" tight end/fullback. ... Excellent effort and upper body flexibility to block defensive ends or linebackers on the run. ... Very good receiver who runs precise routes and does not drop many balls. ... Reliable, tough, hard-working character guy. ... Good effort and open-field tackling ability on special teams. I really, really like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingant Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Yea, he is a "FINE" choice. Typical Bills pick, taking a guy we've never heard of. I watched many college football games, and I never saw Derek Fine on TV. And the analysts don't seem to have an opinion either. What does that tell you? CRAPPY PICK! Aren't you the guy who just said "Waaaa!, They didn't take the NAME I read a few times! Waaa!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneonta Buffalo Fan Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 weird pick - seems like a H-back, which we supposedly aren't using anymore and already have Schouman. Could he be a full time FB? He's probably going to be a blocker but hey it's not that bad AND Schmitt is still on the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayc63 Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 I agree...I'm sure ST is a big factor...I really was hoping for a more traditional sized TE insead of a specialist...he does sound alot like Shouman...or he could be moved to FB... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse89 Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Yea, he is a "FINE" choice. Typical Bills pick, taking a guy we've never heard of. I watched many college football games, and I never saw Derek Fine on TV. And the analysts don't seem to have an opinion either. What does that tell you? CRAPPY PICK! tells me you didn't watch any Kansas games, idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Yea, he is a "FINE" choice. Typical Bills pick, taking a guy we've never heard of. I watched many college football games, and I never saw Derek Fine on TV. And the analysts don't seem to have an opinion either. What does that tell you? CRAPPY PICK! have no idea what the espn analysts think. they're too busy running clips of matt ryan putting on ATL caps from yesterday to discuss the drafts actually going on now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACTOBILLSFAN Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Yea, he is a "FINE" choice. Typical Bills pick, taking a guy we've never heard of. I watched many college football games, and I never saw Derek Fine on TV. And the analysts don't seem to have an opinion either. What does that tell you? CRAPPY PICK! %$@# the guys on ESPN aren't talking about him...we should just cut him now. And evidently playing in the number one offense in the land last season means nothing, and i don't know how you watched so many college football games and didn't even stumble upon the Kansas Jayhawks. I hope that I am just interpreting you're comments incorrectly and you are being sarcastic, because it's a late 4th round choice, at this point you're looking for project players not immediate impact players. This board makes my head want to explode...where's my duct tape? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 NOT pleased wit the last 2 picks. It feels like we are drafting for special teams as well Taken alone, I don't mind the Reggie Corner pick. This one seems to have 'tossing darts at the draftboard' written all over it. Been wrong before, hopefully I am about this one, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lothar Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Checked out Fine's combine results compared to other TEs (for clues about selection): 5th strongest - according to reps fastest in 3 cone drill 2nd fastest in 20 yard shuttle Seems to have quick twitch but not very fast - short yardage option It does seem as though Kellen Davis must have some serious issues that haven't come out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Checked out Fine's combine results compared to other TEs (for clues about selection): 5th strongest - according to reps fastest in 3 cone drill 2nd fastest in 20 yard shuttle Seems to have quick twitch but not very fast - short yardage option It does seem as though Kellen Davis must have some serious issues that haven't come out. guess they figured to get a hybrid TE/FB since all the good TEs are gone and they need an FB. what about woodhead though for FB? he could be our wes welker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 He ranked 14 and 20 in the TE's in the two draft guides I have But at least they are consistant in their analysis of him.......good hands....blocker....plays special teams. Kellen Davis looks like a beast so there is obviously something about him that is turning teams off. Owen Smit next please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneonta Buffalo Fan Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 John David Booty finally got picked..............by the Vikings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayc63 Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 He ranked 14 and 20 in the TE's in the two draft guides I have But at least they are consistant in their analysis of him.......good hands....blocker....plays special teams. Kellen Davis looks like a beast so there is obviously something about him that is turning teams off. Owen Smit next please The problem with Davis is that he is on 18 months probation after being charged with aggraveted assault...otherwise your right he looks like what they need as an all around (developmental) TE... Schmit would be a good pick here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San-O Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 I always like taking D linemen, however with the 3rd taking Chris Ellis, the Bills will now have 3 left defensive ends? Is this the end of Kelsay or Denney? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 Looks like fine was their guy from the combine on per Chris Brown Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 I'd be disappointed if the Bills didn't take a flyer on Justice or Sullivan this round. Fowler is nothing special and Preston is a disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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