Captain Hindsight Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 This a question about Trent. Not JP so please leave that out of this thread Why do you think Trent Edwards is the best QB for this team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bflojohn Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 I'll weigh in, but sans the "expert" title. I believe that the restructured offense will be tailor made for his strengths, especially after announcing that he is their guy! A huge tip off on the style was mentioned this week, IIRC, where the Bills made it known that they will introduce 3 step drops to aid in Trent Edwards' presnap reads. The recognition for him MUST be there, IMO, because the 3 step drop is a quick hitting attack! Welcome to the world of slants by our WR's, especially if the reads are reactionary (audibles) to a blitz pickup prior to the snap. The audibles are also a key to where they want to take TE, going forward! I, personally, want a more sound scheme to attack in the red zone!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABURZFAN Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 This a question about Trent. Not JP so please leave that out of this thread Why do you think Trent Edwards is the best QB for this team? if you're going to ask him this, you have no choice but to include Losman in the conversation for comparisons. for somebody who doesn't want to hear what ExpertOpinion has to say, you sure are egging on the situation. then what? when you don't agree with him, you're going to call him a troll? the Mods should close/delete this thread as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted April 12, 2008 Author Share Posted April 12, 2008 if you're going to ask him this, you have no choice but to include Losman in the conversation for comparisons. for somebody who doesn't want to hear what ExpertOpinion has to say, you sure are egging on the situation. then what? when you don't agree with him, you're going to call him a troll? the Mods should close/delete this thread as well. I'm not going to call him a troll. I want to have a discussion with him about Edwards. He has alot to say on JP but nothing on Edwards, i want to understand his stance and why we are better with Trent. Its a question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 Saburzfan is on my ignore list yet I still need to read his drivel when his post's are quoted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 Edwards has better field vision, a faster release, can read defenses better and has a better touch pass. All of that was developed by playing one of the most godawful offensive lines in college football. I also think he's smarter than Losman. I think he will develop a lot quicker than Losman. I think we'll see good games, great games and horrid games from him this year. It's part of the growing process. In 2009 he'll be on the verge of becoming great. The only real concern I have about him is his durability. He added a lot of muscle in the offseason and hopefully that will help him stay healthy. That's my opinion. I wouldn't call myself an expert though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 Edwards has better field vision, a faster release, can read defenses better and has a better touch pass. All of that was developed by playing one of the most godawful offensive lines in college football. I also think he's smarter than Losman. I think he will develop a lot quicker than Losman. I think we'll see good games, great games and horrid games from him this year. It's part of the growing process. In 2009 he'll be on the verge of becoming great. The only real concern I have about him is his durability. He added a lot of muscle in the offseason and hopefully that will help him stay healthy. That's my opinion. I wouldn't call myself an expert though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneonta Buffalo Fan Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 This a question about Trent. Not JP so please leave that out of this thread Why do you think Trent Edwards is the best QB for this team? My avatar says it all. Our future looks bright with him as the starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABURZFAN Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 Saburzfan is on my ignore list yet I still need to read his drivel when his post's are quoted you NEED to stop ignoring the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 Edwards has better field vision, a faster release, can read defenses better and has a better touch pass. All of that was developed by playing one of the most godawful offensive lines in college football. I also think he's smarter than Losman. I think he will develop a lot quicker than Losman. I think we'll see good games, great games and horrid games from him this year. It's part of the growing process. In 2009 he'll be on the verge of becoming great. The only real concern I have about him is his durability. He added a lot of muscle in the offseason and hopefully that will help him stay healthy. That's my opinion. I wouldn't call myself an expert though. Sorry, but I think NFL defenses caught up with Trent. That showed up those last three games. Defenses love the checkdown QB and will let Trent do that all game long because they know he won't put up the six points when he gets to the red zone. They also love the fact that he tips off running plays with the fake audibles. That wasn't very smart. I'd rather have the QB that can score from anywhere on the field which is Losman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 Sorry, but I think NFL defenses caught up with Trent. That showed up those last three games. Defenses love the checkdown QB and will let Trent do that all game long because they know he won't put up the six points when he gets to the red zone. They also love the fact that he tips off running plays with the fake audibles. That wasn't very smart. I'd rather have the QB that can score from anywhere on the field which is Losman. This sucker says hi "Lee Evans, 70 yd pass from Trent Edwards (Rian Lindell kick is good), 12:46. Drive: 6 plays, 85 yards in 3:12" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 Sorry, but I think NFL defenses caught up with Trent. That showed up those last three games. Defenses love the checkdown QB and will let Trent do that all game long because they know he won't put up the six points when he gets to the red zone. They also love the fact that he tips off running plays with the fake audibles. That wasn't very smart. I'd rather have the QB that can score from anywhere on the field which is Losman. Your schitt is getting old.....do you just copy and paste it each time? You keep saying that JP could do this and JP could do that, when did he do all this magic? It wasn't TE tipping off the D it was the play calling and I think you will see that this season if you can get your head out of JP's ass. Go Bills! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 I am no Trent fan by any means (yet), but I am interested to see this offense with EITHER QB being able to audible at the line like the rest of the league. But of course any gains made by audibles may be offset over the course of a full season by us taking the plunge YET AGAIN with a first time OC. I hate watching an offense that is giving its coaches on-the-job training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 Sorry, but I think NFL defenses caught up with Trent. That showed up those last three games. Defenses love the checkdown QB and will let Trent do that all game long because they know he won't put up the six points when he gets to the red zone. They also love the fact that he tips off running plays with the fake audibles. That wasn't very smart. I'd rather have the QB that can score from anywhere on the field which is Losman. You have hit nail on head IMO. A defensive coordinator that can plan to rush an extra player or two knowing that the QB will read the blitz and throw short is a happy defensive coordinator. As a defense they don't have to fear getting beat deep which means the defense can move up toward the line of scrimmage and cover the short stuff. Helps to defend the run game too. If you watch a Colts game, the defensive alignments that play against the Colts offense look a lot different than what the Bills face. They're playing off the line of scrimmage defending the deep ball because they know if they send the kitchen sink at Peyton and don't get to him, he'll chuck a 30 yarder to Marvin or one of the other guys (which includes the tight end going deep at times). As long as the Bills want to play the checkdown keep it close to the line of scrimmage chicken shyt passing offense, expect very little daylight for Marshawn in the running game. This is Dick Jauron football. He plays cautious on both sides of the ball. Conservsative (not an attacking style) offense, and stay back don't rush too many players and don't press the receivers defense. This IMO gives the opponent an advantage on both sides of the football. Certainly if you're going to play more aggressively you have to have the personnel to do that and the Bills may not have that talent yet, but even if/when they do have that talent, don't expect Dicky to change his stripes. I don't think there is a more conservative, cautious, risk averse coach in the NFL and not taking risks is risky in the game of football. Trent's abilities seem to be a good fit for this cautious style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABURZFAN Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 Sorry, but I think NFL defenses caught up with Trent. That showed up those last three games. Defenses love the checkdown QB and will let Trent do that all game long because they know he won't put up the six points when he gets to the red zone. They also love the fact that he tips off running plays with the fake audibles. That wasn't very smart. I'd rather have the QB that can score from anywhere on the field which is Losman. i'd rather have a QB who can win games, which is NOT Losman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanincuse Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 Sorry, but I think NFL defenses caught up with Trent. That showed up those last three games. Defenses love the checkdown QB and will let Trent do that all game long because they know he won't put up the six points when he gets to the red zone. They also love the fact that he tips off running plays with the fake audibles. That wasn't very smart. This is all true. Even the announcers picked up on his fake audibles. i hope that wasnt Trent making the decision to do that. It went from bad to worse very quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 i'd rather have a QB who can win games, which is NOT Losman. Make a written note for yourself of all the bad things you feel about JP as a QB. Put it in a safe place where you can find it in a several years. Keep track of his career wherever he goes. At the end of his career, find your note and read it. I think you're in for a surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marauderswr80 Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 I still think both QB's should battle it out in training camp to see whos the best.......it can only help the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clownments22 Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 This is all true. Even the announcers picked up on his fake audibles. i hope that wasnt Trent making the decision to do that. It went from bad to worse very quickly. I watch every play, and I read threads and articles on this site almost daily. Why have I never heard this knock on Tredwards before about fake audibles? I have to watch most games at the bars, so I don't hear the commentary, but I've never heard anyone say anything about this before. I also have admittedly limited football knowledge. Can someone enlighten me as to what this about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABURZFAN Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 Make a written note for yourself of all the bad things you feel about JP as a QB. Put it in a safe place where you can find it in a several years. Keep track of his career wherever he goes. At the end of his career, find your note and read it. I think you're in for a surprise. i did that with Robosack. i wasn't surprised and i doubt i'll be surprised with this chump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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