Tipster19 Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 http://www.buffalobills.com/news/news.jsp?news_id=4622 Everything that Marv stated has either came to fruitation or looks like it will. In breaking down some of his statements I found Marv to being very upfront. The remarks about one or two RFAs leads me to believe that Turner was one of the two. If there is to be another one I wonder if that would be a LB. It doesn't look like there will be though due to free agency nearing an end. I found it interesting that the O-Line and the run defense weren't mentioned as draft options and so far that proved to be accurate with at least the O-Line. This appears to be fulfilled by free agency, which Marv also stated that off the top of his head we would probably be signing somewheres around 4 FAs. I think that we are up to 3 so far, right? Sounds like Marv expects the players that we got already to start performing on the run defense. Other than aquiring Walker, it doesn't appear that we'll be getting anymore D-Linemen. At the right spot WR will be addressed and that sounds to me to be like a second day decision, also a 3rd string QB too. Assuming that we do use our 4th rder for WR, what kind of QB could we get with a 6th or 7th rd pick? Yikes! So, I guess that this draft will be predominately geared towards LBs, a CB or two and a RB. It's not surprising, it's nothing that hasn't been hammered on this board for the last few months. One last note. What a difference between Marv and Donahoe in discussing what are needs are and what we'll be looking to address. Day and night, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 One last note. What a difference between Marv and Donahoe in discussing what are needs are and what we'll be looking to address. Day and night, huh? I wouldn't fault TD for that. Each GM has his own style of functioning. It is ok for TD to not go around mentioning what the team needs are, especially before the draft. You want to be as quiet as possible (and BTW Marvs opinion was a very high level, which is obvious to anyone and he has been very quiet too). TD had many other issues, but that definitely is not one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LevysEraII Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 http://www.buffalobills.com/news/news.jsp?news_id=4622 At the right spot WR will be addressed and that sounds to me to be like a second day decision, also a 3rd string QB too. Assuming that we do use our 4th rder for WR, what kind of QB could we get with a 6th or 7th rd pick? Yikes! I don't know. Tom Brady, maybe??????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 fruitation fruition, you mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Indablanc Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 fruition, you mean. No. He meant fruitation. Definition: A man's irrepressible urge to move to San Francisco or Key West, date other men, and skip to work. Example: "Look here comes Bob and his boyfriend. Looks like the fruitation is complete." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San-O Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 http://www.buffalobills.com/news/news.jsp?news_id=4622 Sounds like Marv expects the players that we got already to start performing on the run defense. Other than aquiring Walker, it doesn't appear that we'll be getting anymore D-Linemen. I am starting to think you are correct, and this would be a serious error in judgement IMO. The run defense of this team is not going to improve from 28'th in the league, giving up 140 yards / game, to even anywhere near the middle of the pack adding one FA to the mix. Signing Tim Anderson was also a good indication, and a bad move I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMIEBUF12 Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 what i came out with it is this...............we are drafting marshawn lynch at#12. we will then trade our 3rd and 2nd to move up into the lower 1st round and grab paul posluszny.i can live with that.go bills in"07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 I am starting to think you are correct, and this would be a serious error in judgement IMO. The run defense of this team is not going to improve from 28'th in the league, giving up 140 yards / game, to even anywhere near the middle of the pack adding one FA to the mix. Signing Tim Anderson was also a good indication, and a bad move I think. I'd have to agree. Walker is an excellent pass-rushing DT but isn't the type who excells in the run defense. It's a huge risk to depend on the existing roster to provide the difference. I don't think Walker's acquisition improves us, no matter who plays LB. We cannot control the defense LOS with those guys, and we lose sight of just how porous we defended the run last season. As bad as Indy was against the run during the regular season with him, they still picked up Booger McFarland mid-season. Granted Bob Sanders helped there too, but a SS can't do much without the DL winning in the trenches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 I wouldn't fault TD for that. Each GM has his own style of functioning. It is ok for TD to not go around mentioning what the team needs are, especially before the draft. You want to be as quiet as possible (and BTW Marvs opinion was a very high level, which is obvious to anyone and he has been very quiet too). TD had many other issues, but that definitely is not one of them. I wouldn't necessarily fault TD for that, but not acknowledging the teams needs just made TD sound dishonest. You aren't giving ANYTHING away by stating the team's needs. Anyone observing the team can pretty much see what the team needs, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipster19 Posted April 18, 2007 Author Share Posted April 18, 2007 I am starting to think you are correct, and this would be a serious error in judgement IMO. The run defense of this team is not going to improve from 28'th in the league, giving up 140 yards / game, to even anywhere near the middle of the pack adding one FA to the mix. Signing Tim Anderson was also a good indication, and a bad move I think. I'm in total agreement with you on us still needing a runstuffer in the middle of our defense. Here's what I think would be ideal if it could happen. We swap our 1st rd pick with San Diego and maybe a future pick in compensation (the 2008 3rder that we got from Baltimore?) for Turner. Picking at #30 we take Tennessee's DT Justin Harrell. He's been talked about being selected as high as #23 by KC. I don't think this happens now because they just lost G Will Shields to retirement and they also re-signed DT James Reed, so an O-Lineman should take their first pick. The Saints are potential suitor for Harrell but if slides past these two teams then the Colts will be all over him at #32. Now with our 2nd and our two 3rd picks we address the the LB and CB positions. I'll take a guess at this point what names to put in these rds but I do think that the LB(s) that Marv is going to draft are going to surprise many people. People are looking for him to aquire the likes of Willis and Poz and I don't think this will be the case. I'm expecting names like Justin Durant, Buster Davis, Brandon Siler, Quincy Black and Tim Shaw to be on our roster when the 2nd and 3rd rds end. These players are well within our picks and I think that we will get two of them and still use one these three picks for a CB/S type DB back. To me this would a fantastic draft and our biggest needs would be addressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 I am starting to think you are correct, and this would be a serious error in judgement IMO. The run defense of this team is not going to improve from 28'th in the league, giving up 140 yards / game, to even anywhere near the middle of the pack adding one FA to the mix. Signing Tim Anderson was also a good indication, and a bad move I think. Or it might just be mis-direction. We all know the signing of Anderson is meaningless and he can still be dumped at any time (gotta love those NFL "contracts"), Perhaps Marv has his eye on Okoye (or Branch) and doesn't want someone moving up ahead of us to get him, should he last until 10 or 11. Worst case scenario, a guy familiar with our system is around for training camp. I wouldn't read anything, for sure, into Anderson's signing and wouldn't take is a sign we are happy with our DTs. By the way, is Amobi any relation to Christian Okoye? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 I wouldn't necessarily fault TD for that, but not acknowledging the teams needs just made TD sound dishonest. You aren't giving ANYTHING away by stating the team's needs. Anyone observing the team can pretty much see what the team needs, IMO. I think what made TD dishonest was picking a RoscoeParrish in the top of Rd 2 when you your OL was so bad. Parrish is no doubt an exciting player, but we had much bigger needs than a 4th WR on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipster19 Posted April 18, 2007 Author Share Posted April 18, 2007 By the way, is Amobi any relation to Christian Okoye? No but he did claim it at one time for acceptance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 I think what made TD dishonest was picking a Robert Parrish in the top of Rd 2 when you your OL was so bad. Parrish is no doubt an exciting player, but we had much bigger needs than a 4th WR on the team. Chief!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 Chief!!! Well, as long as the Chief is on board, might as well bring in Ricky and they can share the ganja. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipster19 Posted April 18, 2007 Author Share Posted April 18, 2007 I don't know. Tom Brady, maybe??????? How about Matt Gutierrez? I would think that a 6th or 7th rd pick would be worth the investment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 Or it might just be mis-direction. We all know the signing of Anderson is meaningless and he can still be dumped at any time (gotta love those NFL "contracts"), Perhaps Marv has his eye on Okoye (or Branch) and doesn't want someone moving up ahead of us to get him, should he last until 10 or 11. Worst case scenario, a guy familiar with our system is around for training camp. I wouldn't read anything, for sure, into Anderson's signing and wouldn't take is a sign we are happy with our DTs. Agreed...EVERY NFL Team will be Mock Drafting like crazy, and burning up the phone lines over the next week in order to get a better understanding of who will be available when they are on the clock...I think if you look at Marv and Modrak's statements today, most Teams would assume Patrick Willis is going to be The Bills Pick if He's still on the Board (assuming of coarse that Adrian Peterson is gone) at #12...This tells Me the Bills are definitely not going to pick Patrick Willis... Seriously I have no idea...But no question this could all be one big, well planned, smoke-screen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeBillsDrive Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 I am starting to think you are correct, and this would be a serious error in judgement IMO. The run defense of this team is not going to improve from 28'th in the league, giving up 140 yards / game, to even anywhere near the middle of the pack adding one FA to the mix. Signing Tim Anderson was also a good indication, and a bad move I think. This team will be 7-9 again if we don't improve our porous run defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 This team will be 7-9 again if we don't improve our porous run defence. Or worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted April 19, 2007 Share Posted April 19, 2007 http://www.buffalobills.com/news/news.jsp?news_id=4622So, I guess that this draft will be predominately geared towards LBs, a CB or two and a RB. It's not surprising, it's nothing that hasn't been hammered on this board for the last few months. One last note. What a difference between Marv and Donahoe in discussing what are needs are and what we'll be looking to address. Day and night, huh? Yeah, what a surprise! Levy will be drafting early round corners!!! That was a tough one to figure out. As for the honesty that you seem to applaud, I am thinking that telling the truth would amount to tipping ones hand for no reason. If this is what is really happening, I would think that doing so is a stupid and unneccessary move. How about you, or are you simply bowled over by the honesty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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