Brandon Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Willis ran a 4.37 and 4.38 at his pro day workouts. I already thought the 49ers would take him at 11, but he may not even fall that far now. The only knock there ever was against him was speed, a question he answered at the combine but he has now completely blown that issue out of the water. http://www.nfl.com/draft/analysis/individual_workouts#mich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Wing '73 Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Willis ran a 4.37 and 4.38 at his pro day workouts. I already thought the 49ers would take him at 11, but he may not even fall that far now. The only knock there ever was against him was speed, a question he answered at the combine but he has now completely blown that issue out of the water. http://www.nfl.com/draft/analysis/individual_workouts#mich Actually, the real knock on him was strength. I think he benched less than most RB's and a few QB's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Wing '73 Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Actually, the real knock on him was strength. I think he benched less than most RB's and a few QB's checked, 22 reps. Quinn had 24. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habes1280 Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 checked, 22 reps. Quinn had 24. 22 reps for a LB is a reasonable sum, and shouldn't effect his draft status. Quinn's 24 reps for a QB is absolutely unheard of-- and he POWERED through those reps-- so he sets the bar a little high. A LOT of people had fewer reps than Brady Quinn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 SPEED was never a question on Willis McFadden is supposed to be the "fastest guy on the field" here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted March 21, 2007 Author Share Posted March 21, 2007 checked, 22 reps. Quinn had 24. His bench reps were a little underwhelming, but certainly not indicative of a problem. 21.8 was the average for the LB group as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted March 21, 2007 Author Share Posted March 21, 2007 SPEED was never a question on Willis McFadden is supposed to be the "fastest guy on the field" here He was expected to run a 4.6 at the combine. He wasn't expected to be 'slow', just not to exhibit elite speed. I'm a Razorback fan and have that particular game recorded, along with several others. McFadden is fast, but he's probably not as fast as their #2 RB, Felix Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCCEO Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 I think he still falls to us. Linebackers dont often go top 10, even though last year two did. I can only think of a few in the past 5 or 6 years: AJ Hawk, Ernie Sims, Dan Morgan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 That's cause Brady is thick as hell. The guy's arms are linebacker-size and he lifts all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Wing '73 Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 22 reps for a LB is a reasonable sum, and shouldn't effect his draft status. Quinn's 24 reps for a QB is absolutely unheard of-- and he POWERED through those reps-- so he sets the bar a little high. A LOT of people had fewer reps than Brady Quinn. This was his group at the combine...out of 34 LB's in the group only 14 had the same or worse. Beason had 19 Not that I don't think that 22 is a lot and I would love this guy on the Bills but I remember watching some combine coverage on NFL Network and they were talking about it as a lower score. Jonathan Abbate Wake Forest 26 Rufus Alexander Oklahoma 25 Antwan Barnes Florida Int. 31 Jon Beason Miami (Fla.) 19 Desmond Bishop Cal-Berkeley 33 Quincy Black New Mexico 24 H.B. Blades Pittsburgh 22 Stewart Bradley Nebraska 28 Prescott Burgess Michigan 19 Quinton Culberson Mississippi St. 18 James Davis Florida St. 24 Zak Deossie Brown 26 Justin Durant Hampton 25 Earl Everett Florida 19 David Harris Michigan 23 Nate Harris Louisville 26 Rory Johnson Mississippi 19 Zach Latimer Oklahoma 19 Marvin Mitchell Tennessee 22 Stephen Nicholas South Florida 29 Chad Nkang Elon 23 Michael Okwo Stanford 20 Sam Olajubutu Arkansas 24 Blair Phillips Oregon 23 Paul Poslusky Penn St. 22 Dallas Sartz Southern Cal 20 Tim Shaw Penn St. 26 Juwan Simpson Alabama 15 Kelvin Smith Syracuse 26 Tony Taylor Georgia 26 Lawrence Timmons Florida St. 25 Justin Warren Texas A&M 16 Anthony Waters Clemson 25 Patrick Willis Mississippi 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Rigggghhht, because one's ability to play linebacker weighs heavily on his bench press statistics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obie_wan Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 22 reps for a LB is a reasonable sum, and shouldn't effect his draft status. Quinn's 24 reps for a QB is absolutely unheard of-- and he POWERED through those reps-- so he sets the bar a little high. A LOT of people had fewer reps than Brady Quinn. Willis has extremely long arms - which help in pass coverage but make it harder to bench press. I'll take the speed and let the Bills strentgh team build up any missing muscle mass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Rich Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Rigggghhht, because one's ability to play linebacker weighs heavily on his bench press statistics. Or quarterback. Lest we forget, Neil O' Donnell could bench over 400lbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Wing '73 Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Rigggghhht, because one's ability to play linebacker weighs heavily on his bench press statistics. Or Leif Larson at DT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Rigggghhht, because one's ability to play linebacker weighs heavily on his bench press statistics. Come on, don't tell me you don't see play after play on Sunday where the MLB is lifting other players over his head in his pursuit of the ball carrier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanGuzman Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Willis ran a 4.37 and 4.38 at his pro day workouts. I already thought the 49ers would take him at 11, but he may not even fall that far now. The only knock there ever was against him was speed, a question he answered at the combine but he has now completely blown that issue out of the water. http://www.nfl.com/draft/analysis/individual_workouts#mich do you know what type of track it was on? He ran 4.62 at the combine I am pretty amazed he dropped his time by a quarter of a second (0.25). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted March 21, 2007 Author Share Posted March 21, 2007 do you know what type of track it was on? He ran 4.62 at the combine I am pretty amazed he dropped his time by a quarter of a second (0.25). I have him at a 4.51 from the combine, but I agree, its a significant drop either way. I have no idea what type of surface he ran it on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarmanuscg07 Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 with size/upper body strenght your naturally going to lose speed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketch Soland Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 I have him at a 4.51 from the combine, but I agree, its a significant drop either way. I have no idea what type of surface he ran it on. yes, he definitely ran a 4.5 at the combine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Just a little comment on this..... Athletes who are tall with long limbs have a harder time with these particular lifts then players that are shorter/squattier with shorter arms..... My 15 year old son was all upset because one of his friends (another football player) tested out at 225 ORM while he only got up 215. Very little of this translates over to the field however....lifting tests that really matter are squat and powerclean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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