ganesh Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 Holcomb costs 3.3 million against the cap if released but only 2.88 million if he stays. Therefore, he stays as a veteran backup. I doubt that is a correct number....I thought Holcomb had a 2M signing bonus on a 7 or $8M salary....Going by your #s, I think his pro-rated bonus is 500K and his salary for the 3rd season is 2.3M. If he is cut now, that bonus accelarates and will account for 1M (2 * 500K) against the cap. Since we don't owe him the 2.3M salary it won't count against the cap... Net result, if we keep him, he will count 2.8M towards the cap and if we cut him he will count 1M towards the cap. Also, if we cut him after the day 1 of the season, we will still owe him 2.8M for the season and also account for that much against the cap, since he is a vested veteran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cieslak86 Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 If you say, "He's a backup safety, a guy who overcomes a lack of size/athletic ability to play in the NFL," it isn't racist. To throw "white" in the sentence just before the word "backup" is racist. But it's heartwarming to see two of you race-mongers having a public display of affection for one another. Touching. Haha i didnt know i was a race-monger. Better go shave my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBilliever Posted January 29, 2007 Author Share Posted January 29, 2007 A position you don't hear about a lot on these forums or in the NFL in general is fullback, where Shelton probably won't be back. Maybe the Bills could pick up a guy like Brian Leonard or Le'Ron McClain in the draft, but with all our other needs, we probably would rather go the free agency route. Our running game could really improve if we had a lead blocker that could really open some holes. It's no coincidence that whoever runs behind Lorenzo Neal gets 1,000 yards (although blocking for LT the past few years helps). Yeah, I doubt we'll get one in the draft, but Ovie Mughelli of the Ravens is a FA this year, he's quick and has decent hands to boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley Lombardi Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 Haha i didnt know i was a race-monger. Better go shave my head. Not necessary. Just stop writing what color a person happens to be. It's so simple, but you guys just can't seem to break the addiction. Keep your hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 If you say, "He's a backup safety, a guy who overcomes a lack of size/athletic ability to play in the NFL," it isn't racist. To throw "white" in the sentence just before the word "backup" is racist. But it's heartwarming to see two of you race-mongers having a public display of affection for one another. Touching. Saying that black male athletes are generally faster runners than white male athletes is no less true than saying that men on average are taller than women. It's fact. It's not racist. No more so than saying most dry cleaners in the U.S. are owned and operated by Chinese Americans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 I see political correctness has run amok. Dont be so sensitive- nothing racist was said. Dont make a nonissue an issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley Lombardi Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 Saying that black male athletes are generally faster runners than white male athletes is no less true than saying that men on average are taller than women. It's fact. It's not racist. No more so than saying most dry cleaners in the U.S. are owned and operated by Chinese Americans. "Men on the average are taller than women" is not racist. We are making progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 i hope no one in this thread is over 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typical TBD Guy Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 "Men on the average are taller than women" is not racist. We are making progress. I'll give it a try: "Blacks of West African descent, on average, have a higher percentage of fast-twitch muscles than whites...thus giving them, on average, better athletic potential for football positions that emphasize superior speed and agility." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorCal Aaron Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 I'll give it a try: "Blacks of West African descent, on average, have a higher percentage of fast-twitch muscles than whites...thus giving them, on average, better athletic potential for football positions that emphasize superior speed and agility." Correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbfan54 Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 I doubt that is a correct number....I thought Holcomb had a 2M signing bonus on a 7 or $8M salary....Going by your #s, I think his pro-rated bonus is 500K and his salary for the 3rd season is 2.3M. If he is cut now, that bonus accelarates and will account for 1M (2 * 500K) against the cap. Since we don't owe him the 2.3M salary it won't count against the cap... Net result, if we keep him, he will count 2.8M towards the cap and if we cut him he will count 1M towards the cap. Also, if we cut him after the day 1 of the season, we will still owe him 2.8M for the season and also account for that much against the cap, since he is a vested veteran http://www.billsdaily.com/frontoffice/salarycap.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cåblelady Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 I think Jim Leonhard is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 I think Jim Leonhard is good. I think Jim Leonard is white! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cåblelady Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 I think Jim Leonard is white! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley Lombardi Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 I think Jim Leonhard is good. "Good" is not confined to any color. Cablelady, as always, gets it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helmet_hair Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Unfortunately, if think Takeo Spikes is on the bubble. will save 3 mill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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