crazyDingo Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 Doug Flutie was the greatest drop-kicker of our era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 Doug Flutie was the greatest drop-kicker of our era. 691541[/snapback] Just because a statement is true, doesn't mean it doesn't fall under the category of "Whoop-de-!@#$ing-do, Who Gives a sh--." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyDingo Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 Just because a statement is true, doesn't mean it doesn't fall under the category of "Whoop-de-!@#$ing-do, Who Gives a sh--." 691542[/snapback] Well, smarty, for your information ALL my posts fall under that category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 Well, smarty, for your information ALL my posts fall under that category. 691563[/snapback] That one, for example... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark VI Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 WWE today announced Doug Flutie will oppose Mini-Me for the WMW Title ( World Midget Wrestling ) at Summerslam in a steel rabbit cage match ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJsackedagain Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 Damn, I thought the big news was he was growing the mullet back!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 for everyone bashing flutie, keep in mind that his 1998 season was the best season (by far) for a bills qb since kelly in 1991. and for those who want to bring up bledsoe in 2002, i suggest you look also at sack totals (54 for bledsoe, 12 for flutie) and rushing yards (18 for bledsoe, 248 for flutie). flutie threw for fewer yards, but had a higher ypa and a better rating. plus he showed in big games near the end of the season ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOTONE Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 Good Luck Dougie. I got no hard feelings towards the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 and rushing yards (18 for bledsoe, 248 for flutie). 691618[/snapback] Who cares? A QB with high rushing yards is a de facto indictment of the whole offensive scheme. RB's rush, QB's are supposed to throw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikecole1 Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 I can't stand Flutie. I will rejoice when I hear the words that he is retiring.I was never an RJ fan either. Both QBs were horrible. Flutie never had any magic. 691501[/snapback] Never had any magic? I would beg for the Flutie days again. One playoff appearance plus a 10-6 season in which he SHOULD have started the playoffs. Compare that with the rest of this morbund franchise's record, save for the Jim Kelly/Marv years. Fergie's record compared to Flutie's short time here pales. What a short memory. Flake or no flake you can not dispute the record. I was in Charlotte for a game where he and EM absolutely torched the Panthers. No matter what you think, Gomer and then Ol' Whitey's decision to start Rob Johnson doomed the Bills and likely set back the franchise for half a decade. Bills would not have slunken to 8-8 (2000) and then 3-13 (2001) if they had let Flutie (a pro bowler for Bills) navigate through the rebuilding. There would have been more wins. Easily. People must just hate short people. I never understood the contempt that some Bills fans had for Flutie. It was pretty gay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 I do have a signed #7 Bills jersey from Doug on my rec room wall, and a signed football as well. I give him credit for energizing the fans and selling out the luxury suites when we needed it. I also understand that he's a pretty good hockey goalie, though he wasn't allowed to play while he was in the NFL (injury clause in contract.) Maybe he'll pick it up again. Harry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 Who cares? A QB with high rushing yards is a de facto indictment of the whole offensive scheme. RB's rush, QB's are supposed to throw. 691633[/snapback] ? you mean you'd prefer that your qb crumble into a heap as opposed to scramble for the occasional first down or dodge a pass rush? steve young, fran tarkenton, and roger staubach seemed to do ok with that strategy. they all ran as much as flutie did. anyway, flutie did throw that year - and better than any bills qb did for a number of years prior or hence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 If Flutie is such a great and Amazing QB, why wasn't he a starter for any team after leaving the Bills????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 If Flutie is such a great and Amazing QB, why wasn't he a starter for any team after leaving the Bills????? 691657[/snapback] i don't think anyone here is saying he's a great, but as per your question, he did in fact start the entire season for the chargers in 2001. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crap Throwing Monkey Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 ?you mean you'd prefer that your qb crumble into a heap as opposed to scramble for the occasional first down or dodge a pass rush? steve young, fran tarkenton, and roger staubach seemed to do ok with that strategy. they all ran as much as flutie did. anyway, flutie did throw that year - and better than any bills qb did for a number of years prior or hence. 691648[/snapback] No, I'd rather the running back ran the ball, and the offensive line blocked. You see...there's this interesting little thing that happens in football. When the QB takes the field, so do ten other players!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 No, I'd rather the running back ran the ball, and the offensive line blocked. You see...there's this interesting little thing that happens in football. When the QB takes the field, so do ten other players!!!! 691668[/snapback] ? are you suggesting that flutie scrambling *on passing plays* somehow dented the production of our running game? you couldn't be, because the bills had the third best rushing attack in the entire nfl in 1998 and led the league in rushing attempts. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf1998.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 If Flutie is such a great and Amazing QB, why wasn't he a starter for any team after leaving the Bills????? 691657[/snapback] Because by then, he was 90 years old. I don't think that he was "great," but he was seemingly blackballed by the NFL. Why, I don't know. I am not his biggest fan by any means, but DF should never have played one down in Canada. He was better than a majority of the NFL qbs while he was out of the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 QUESTION: What is the over/under on when someone (Smerlas) suggests Flutie belongs in the Hall of Fame? (that's NFL...he definitely qualifies for the CFL HOF) PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
booya2 Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 I was a Flutie supporter when he was here, and while I don't think he was a great QB, he definitely was better than many of the QB's that were playing in the league while he was banished to the CFL. He definitely had his limitations, but I think he could've had a "good" career and been a starter for many years had a team stuck with him. That said, many people argue about his behind the scenes antics, which I can't speak one way or the other about. I never met the guy in person, and obviously wasn't in the locker room. I'm sure there was something to it, but who knows to what extent? He definitely drew the ire of some, but he definitely led the Bills to more success than they've had at any point since the Kelly era, and while some will argue against that most obvious point, it seems to be common sense. I'd sure take 10-6 or 11-5 right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 for everyone bashing flutie, keep in mind that his 1998 season was the best season (by far) for a bills qb since kelly in 1991. and for those who want to bring up bledsoe in 2002, i suggest you look also at sack totals (54 for bledsoe, 12 for flutie) and rushing yards (18 for bledsoe, 248 for flutie). flutie threw for fewer yards, but had a higher ypa and a better rating. plus he showed in big games near the end of the season ... 691618[/snapback] I will give Flutie his props...he was the most effective Bills QB of the post Kelly era. That is not saying a ton. However, he was a first rate jerk, off the field. I have heard stories from all over the leauge. Flutie defined the term "locker-room cancer" in his days in Buffalo. Call me old fashioned, but I still like to like the guys I am rooting for. I never liked Flutie before he was a Bill, and accepted him when he was here. I shed no tears when he left. Good luck to him...I got a feeling he will fit in well with ESPN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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