Coach Tuesday Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/insider/col..._len&id=2434393 • In time, the draft class collected by the Buffalo Bills last weekend might be regarded as a bounty, given the team did land some quality prospects. Each of the team's top four choices -- strong safety Donte Whitner, defensive tackle John McCargo, cornerback Ashton Youboty and free safety Ko Simpson -- will play quickly and all could start as rookies. But it was obvious from their decision to use the No. 8 pick on Whitner, a terrific player who rose up draft boards late in the process but whom no one assessed as a top-10 candidate, that general manager Marv Levy was a bit out of his element. Buffalo landed real bargains in snatching Youboty in the third round and Simpson in the fourth, much later than most pundits had them pegged. But the reach for Whitner and the move up late in the round to get McCargo all but offset the later steals. The Bills had opportunities to swap down from the No. 8 hole, to collect some extra choices, but chose not to pull the trigger on any offers. Now they're going to overpay contractually for Whitner and perhaps for McCargo in the first round. And this is not, for a team where owner Ralph Wilson is concerned about revenues, a bunch that has spent wisely in the offseason. The Bills have invested about $20 million in signing bonuses for free agents, one of the highest totals in the league, and really haven't added a true impact player. The reacquisition of wide receiver Peerless Price is arguably one of the most dubious deals of the free-agency period. Take a look at the Buffalo free-agent haul -- safety Matt Bowen, wideouts Price and Andre' Davis, quarterback Craig Nall, offensive linemen Melvin Fowler and Aaron Gibson, defensive tackle Larry Tripplett -- and there isn't much to be excited about. Probably the highest-profile addition is Tripplett, who never lived up to his second-round billing during his Indianapolis tenure. This note for those critical of the past Buffalo football operation: According to our count, 32 of the 42 players selected by former Bills general manager Tom Donahoe are still in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 Lenny P. is a fat douche bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffOrange Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 Yeah I have to say that's kinda pathetic - you would think he would at least do a better job of hiding the fact that he has an agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In space no one can hear Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 Lenny P. is sich a loser!!!!!!!!! Yeah -Donahoe was a genius- check out the Bills won lost record during his reign of terror!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ1 Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/insider/col..._len&id=2434393 • In time, the draft class collected by the Buffalo Bills last weekend might be regarded as a bounty, given the team did land some quality prospects. Each of the team's top four choices -- strong safety Donte Whitner, defensive tackle John McCargo, cornerback Ashton Youboty and free safety Ko Simpson -- will play quickly and all could start as rookies. But it was obvious from their decision to use the No. 8 pick on Whitner, a terrific player who rose up draft boards late in the process but whom no one assessed as a top-10 candidate, that general manager Marv Levy was a bit out of his element. Buffalo landed real bargains in snatching Youboty in the third round and Simpson in the fourth, much later than most pundits had them pegged. But the reach for Whitner and the move up late in the round to get McCargo all but offset the later steals. The Bills had opportunities to swap down from the No. 8 hole, to collect some extra choices, but chose not to pull the trigger on any offers. Now they're going to overpay contractually for Whitner and perhaps for McCargo in the first round. And this is not, for a team where owner Ralph Wilson is concerned about revenues, a bunch that has spent wisely in the offseason. The Bills have invested about $20 million in signing bonuses for free agents, one of the highest totals in the league, and really haven't added a true impact player. The reacquisition of wide receiver Peerless Price is arguably one of the most dubious deals of the free-agency period. Take a look at the Buffalo free-agent haul -- safety Matt Bowen, wideouts Price and Andre' Davis, quarterback Craig Nall, offensive linemen Melvin Fowler and Aaron Gibson, defensive tackle Larry Tripplett -- and there isn't much to be excited about. Probably the highest-profile addition is Tripplett, who never lived up to his second-round billing during his Indianapolis tenure. This note for those critical of the past Buffalo football operation: According to our count, 32 of the 42 players selected by former Bills general manager Tom Donahoe are still in the league. 684601[/snapback] Billichik can go for the low profile guys but Marv can't? Give me an f'in break douche man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 I don't know if it will happen, but I hope Lenny and Squiggy (Mort); the great gazoo (Clayton); and Venti Latte (King) are as quick to write articles praising Marv, Ralph, Modrak and Coach Jauron if, we, by some act of God, happen to exceed expectations over the next 2 or 3 years.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 Funny no one complains when the Patriots sign lower-tier free agents. How does any writer (Lenny Mort) know for a FACT that they could have got Whitner if they traded down. No one knows that for sure. No one. And why do these writers think Marv managed the entire draft by himself? Was Marv the only one in the draft room? Didn't Marv say every pick was done by everyone agreeing on it? OK, Lenny P is now # 2 on my sh-- list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ1 Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 I don't know if it will happen, but I hope Lenny and Squiggy (Mort); the great gazoo (Clayton); and Venti Latte (King) are as quick to write articles praising Marv, Coach Jauron if we by some act of God happen to exceed expectations over the next 2 or 3 years.... 684616[/snapback] They won't unless forced by gunpoint. Too many Bills fans out there to pretend that their pileon never happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 And this is not, for a team where owner Ralph Wilson is concerned about revenues, a bunch that has spent wisely in the offseason. The Bills have invested about $20 million in signing bonuses for free agents, one of the highest totals in the league, and really haven't added a true impact player. The reacquisition of wide receiver Peerless Price is arguably one of the most dubious deals of the free-agency period. Take a look at the Buffalo free-agent haul -- safety Matt Bowen, wideouts Price and Andre' Davis, quarterback Craig Nall, offensive linemen Melvin Fowler and Aaron Gibson, defensive tackle Larry Tripplett -- and there isn't much to be excited about. Probably the highest-profile addition is Tripplett, who never lived up to his second-round billing during his Indianapolis tenure. He forgot Robert Royal, Tutan Reyes and the A-Train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 He forgot Robert Royal, Tutan Reyes and the A-Train. 684621[/snapback] Yea. he just wanted to point out the "bad signings". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozymandius Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 Why do people get so worked up by a sportswriter's opinion? Happy Cinco de Mayo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 Why do people get so worked up by a sportswriter's opinion? Happy Cinco de Mayo. 684628[/snapback] Because sportswriters get paid for their football opinions and we do not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 Why do people get so worked up by a sportswriter's opinion? Happy Cinco de Mayo. 684628[/snapback] I'm guessing just a fundamental problem with inaccuracies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 Why do people get so worked up by a sportswriter's opinion? Happy Cinco de Mayo. 684628[/snapback] I think it might be because we like our team and dislike when someone who is widely read writes something bad about them. Just a guess..... I may not be as vehement as some but I can understand being upset enough to post reaction on an internet message board for other fans... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 According to our count, 32 of the 42 players selected by former Bills general manager Tom Donahoe are still in the league.[/b] 684601[/snapback] A number which includes Coy Wire and Mike Pucillo, in case anyone is counting. Brutal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ1 Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 Because sportswriters get paid for their football opinions and we do not 684630[/snapback] Because those clowns are supposed to do something besides retroactively rationalize the demise of their old lost-whatever-ability-he-once-had pal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gross Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 A number which includes Coy Wire and Mike Pucillo, in case anyone is counting. Brutal. 684636[/snapback] And despite those numbers, we still had enough holes that we had to bring in a dozen or so free agents.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 So I'm sure when the Bills make the playoffs within the next year or two, they'll attribute this success mostly to the group of guys Levy and Jauron inherited...from TD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 A number which includes Coy Wire and Mike Pucillo, in case anyone is counting. Brutal. 684636[/snapback] and Mike Williams and Ben Sobieski (who has set the record for whirlpool time) 6 out of 12 from the first draft 2001 6 out of 10 from the second draft 2002 8 of 8 from 2003 6 of 6 from 2004 6 of 6 from 2005 Very skewed to the last 3 years when everyone should still be in the league or at least a high % in the cap era... A pretty BS stat to base an argument of competency on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 And despite those numbers, we still had enough holes that we had to bring in a dozen or so free agents.... 684640[/snapback] and go 31 and 49 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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