LabattBlue Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Jauron wants Losman, Holcomb to compete for starting job February 14, 2006 ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. (AP) -- J.P. Losman won't be handed the Buffalo Bills starting quarterback job for next season. This time, he's going to have to earn it from Kelly Holcomb. Newly hired coach Dick Jauron said he'll open the job to a competition this spring between Losman and Holcomb, the veteran journeyman with the hope of having a starter ready by the start of training camp. How about Losman versus just about anybody BUT Holcomb. The thought of this guy being the starting QB for 2006, makes me want to fast forward through the 2006 season and right into 2007. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
granitestatebillsbackers Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 When San Diego fails to seal the deal and Drew Brees is on the open market, we should grab him. Better than Losman or Holcomb. I am a fan of JP, but if someone better is on the market, we've gotta take a run at it. If that doesn't happen, my fear is that we are going to have another year of the veterans wanting to win now and not supporting Losman. Fast forward to 2007 indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachChuckDickerson Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Jauron wants Losman, Holcomb to compete for starting jobFebruary 14, 2006 ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. (AP) -- J.P. Losman won't be handed the Buffalo Bills starting quarterback job for next season. This time, he's going to have to earn it from Kelly Holcomb. Newly hired coach Dick Jauron said he'll open the job to a competition this spring between Losman and Holcomb, the veteran journeyman with the hope of having a starter ready by the start of training camp. How about Losman versus just about anybody BUT Holcomb. The thought of this guy being the starting QB for 2006, makes me want to fast forward through the 2006 season and right into 2007. 603365[/snapback] His 70% completion percentage had me boiling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Holcomb is a good QB, just not long term. If Losman isnt where we want him to be, Ide rather go with Holcomb and have Losman come in if Holcomb gets hurt. I think thats the best way to do it. Then we hope Losman runs away with the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Picking the quarterback who beats out the other in an open competition? Scandalous!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyBall4Buffalo Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 If Losman cant beat out Holcomb come training camp this time around, that will pretty much seal losmans fate as a non factor in the future of the bills. Save the stuff about not getting time, and being injured, by now he's had more then enough reps, and practice time to compete, if he can't do it time to look elsewhere. I wouldn't be opposed to bringing in a Jon Kitna, or Steve Mcnair once the titans more then likely release him. Both are better options. I also wouldn't mind Holcomb, if we improve the lines. I hope the kid improves enough to take the job and run with it though. It would indeed be beneficial to the future of this team, but if he doesnt I wont be losing sleep about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 If Losman cant beat out Holcomb come training camp this time around, that will pretty much seal losmans fate as a non factor in the future of the bills. Save the stuff about not getting time, and being injured, by now he's had more then enough reps, and practice time to compete, if he can't do it time to look elsewhere. 603505[/snapback] I'm banking hope on the idea that the new Bill's brass won't think along these lines that you mentioned. It can be frustrating for fans , but lot's of guys truly take more than 8 starts and a couple camps to put it all together. Usually, the team that sees progress (the key) in a guy and displays patience with him will be rewarded down the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 I'm banking hope on the idea that the new Bill's brass won't think along these lines that you mentioned. It can be frustrating for fans , but lot's of guys truly take more than 8 starts and a couple camps to put it all together. Usually, the team that sees progress (the key) in a guy and displays patience with him will be rewarded down the line. 603511[/snapback] Fortunately for Losman, few fans care about immediate gratification. Most fans think long-term and big-picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyBall4Buffalo Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 I'm banking hope on the idea that the new Bill's brass won't think along these lines that you mentioned. It can be frustrating for fans , but lot's of guys truly take more than 8 starts and a couple camps to put it all together. Usually, the team that sees progress (the key) in a guy and displays patience with him will be rewarded down the line. 603511[/snapback] I agree, and I hope Losman shows progress, enough that he beats out Holcomb for the job, and I'll gladly take the growing pains of a qb with only 8 starts under the belt. I didn't mean to imply that he has to be some type of world beater, just show enough that he can at least give us as good of a chance as the guy he's competing against in Holcomb. I dont think thats too much to ask at this point in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton's Arm Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 He reminds me of the quarterback we could've used in 2004, someone who controls TOP, converts third downs, and takes high percentage passes. 603375[/snapback] I know what you're saying. It's hard not to think about whether the Bills could have made the playoffs in 2004 if only Holcomb had been under center. But deep down, I know the 2004 Bills were flawed enough that even if they'd made it to the playoffs, they wouldn't have advanced very far. Still though. A playoff game or two would have been nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Holcomb is a good QB, just not long term. If Losman isnt where we want him to be, Ide rather go with Holcomb and have Losman come in if Holcomb gets hurt. I think thats the best way to do it. Then we hope Losman runs away with the job. 603401[/snapback] Losman will run away with the job - or we'd better be looking for a QB 'cause with Holcomb, we are DOOMED! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Losman will run away with the job - or we'd better be looking for a QB 'cause with Holcomb, we are DOOMED! 603572[/snapback] I dont think we are doomed but man it will be difficult to think Holcomb beat out a number one pick. Thsi would seal the fate for JP as a Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted February 15, 2006 Author Share Posted February 15, 2006 His 70% completion percentage had me boiling. 603378[/snapback] First of all his completion was 67.4, but feel free to round it up as high as you would like. Beyond that, if you think that Holcomb is anything more than a good #2 career backup, think again. I didn't see much in his play last year to make me believe that I want this guy as the Bills starter for the 2006 season. If Losman can't raise his play to a level where the Bills name him the starter, we lose on two counts... 1.Losman was more than likely a wasted draft pick. 2.The season rest on Holcombs shoulders(and arm). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 First of all his completion was 67.4, but feel free to round it up as high as you would like. Beyond that, if you think that Holcomb is anything more than a good #2 career backup, think again. I didn't see much in his play last year to make me believe that I want this guy as the Bills starter for the 2006 season. If Losman can't raise his play to a level where the Bills name him the starter, we lose on two counts... 1.Losman was more than likely a wasted draft pick. 2.The season rest on Holcombs shoulders(and arm). 603645[/snapback] Accuracy is big time when talking about QB's. 67.4% is great, even though many passes were dink and dunk. Holcomb is better than some people say. But, I think you start Holcomb and let Losman come in off the bench due to injury and hopefully run away with the job. Holcomb doesnt stay healthy, so its likely he would be hurt at some point during the year. Holcomb is not a long term answer, but he can get the job done. Holcomb beating out an unproven 1st round pick is no big deal if the 1st round pick cant play. Thats pretty simple. One thing you know with Holcomb is he will be on the money with the short to intermediate throws, but lacks the arm to go downfield. However, arm strength can be overcome with good timing and accuracy, which Holcomb has. Holcomb is the perfect QB to be starting in Buffalo with a young talent waiting in the wings. I think playing Losman over Holcomb would be a huge mistake unless Losman actually looks like an NFL QB in training camp and preseason, because last year he was bad in camp and bad in the preseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted February 15, 2006 Author Share Posted February 15, 2006 But, I think you start Holcomb and let Losman come in off the bench due to injury and hopefully run away with the job. Holcomb doesnt stay healthy, so its likely he would be hurt at some point during the year. 603650[/snapback] In your scenario, if Losman is coming in off the bench during the regular season, that means he couldn't beat out Holcomb in the offseason. So what makes you believe the lightbulb would come on for JP in the middle of the season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 In your scenario, if Losman is coming in off the bench during the regular season, that means he couldn't beat out Holcomb in the offseason. So what makes you believe the lightbulb would come on for JP in the middle of the season? 603656[/snapback] Because you never know when the light bulb will come on. Until Losman shows he can play, i wouldnt start him over Holcomb. He looked bad in camp, it transfered to the preseason, and then to the regular season. He has to atleast perform well in camp and make some things happen in preseason. In my opinion, You let the guy come in off the bench due to injury, with no pressure, and hopefully he just takes it and runs away with the job. QB's dont have a little turkey pop up thing that tells you he is ready. I'll tell you right now, if Losman performs in training camp like he did last year, he will enter the season behind both Holcomb and Mathews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Mick Jaurlevy is avoiding making the brutal mistake made by Mularkey last offseason -- handing the car keys to an unproven player when there is an experienced, respected player on the roster. If Mick said "J.P. is the starter going into camp" lots of folks would say, "huh?" I'll also wager, however, that you would get an equal number of puzzled looks if Mick named Holcomb the de facto starter. Letting everyone know the position is up for grabs is the ONLY smart way to handle it, in my opinion. There's a tad more brainpower at the top of the Bills' organization than we've seen in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinandjokin Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Holcomb is not a long term answer, but he can get the job done. 603650[/snapback] If 'the job' you're referring to is a 7-9 season, then yes you're right, Holcomb can get the job done. Also, look for Willis McGahee to be staring at the other team's safety lined up as an extra LB, because Holcomb doesn't throw more than 7 yards downfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 I don't think that a compettition for the starting spot is a bad idea, but I still think you bring in another veteran to compete with them. Also I don't thiunk JP has to be spectacular in the preseason and camp to win the job. I think he just has to show signs of improvement over last year and that he only needs a little bit of time to be better. I believe Holcomb will need to have an amazing camp and preseason to be named the starter cause he has been in the league for a while and by starting him you are delaying your future QB's developments for a chance at making the playoffs. And by staring Holcomb you are also showing that Losman is not the man for the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 How about Losman versus just about anybody BUT Holcomb. The thought of this guy being the starting QB for 2006, makes me want to fast forward through the 2006 season and right into 2007. 603365[/snapback] Agreed...This just doesn't make any sense......Holcomb has proved that he cannot take a team into the playoffs, both at Cleveland and Buffalo...Why are we still trying to make this guy a starting QB....If you want to put the heat on JP, go get a QB who can start consistently in the league...Even a Jon Kitna is a better option to compete for the starting job.......Keeping Holcomb and JP around and allowing them to fight for the starting job is only going to SPLIT this team......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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