Casey D Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 The Buffalo Bills have been run like a fantasy team for the fans over the last five years. Lots of flash and good PR, but no character. Need to get the fans excited, trade for an over-the-hill Bledsoe and watch the fans come out like he's Jim Kelly. Need another shot of adreneline, sign an aging Lawyer Milloy in 2003. Fans hate Gregg Williams, fire him. Fans want a hot new QB, draft Losman. Fans sick of Bledsoe and want hot young QB, dump Bledsoe. And the fans lapped it up, selling out every game in 2005, while the team sunk to new depths. Now we have a new sheriff in town named Marv Levy, who has a very different approach. We are going to build this team right, from the bottom up with quality, character players. Not everyone will be from that lack of character institution--the University of Miami--we'll get some quality guys. We will build the lines-- so we can block and tackle. We will get the fundamentals right. Enter Dick Jauron. Certainly no flash there. But by every account a quality man who players will play for. Oh, and he went to Yale, so he's likely smart, and can learn from his mistakes. And he's high character, and a teacher. And he knows the value of a stout D-line. So what do many on this board want--run him out of town. Why, because we did not hire the flashier, instant gratification candidate in Mike Sherman. And truth be told as much as the fans say they hated TD at the end, they in fact miss his "give the fans what they want" approach, even if they don't know anything about building a winning business, much less a football team. All they know is that they want to make a big splash today, so the media will say nice things about us. I am tired of the TD approach. I am tired of the push for instant gratification. I want to see teams, like those when Levy coached, who know how to take a punch and get back up and fight some more. I want a team that beats Miami when the QB finds a way into the end zone on the last play, not one that loses on the last play. Levy knew character and quality before. I think he still does. And while Jauron may not be flashy, he has the brains and character that this team so desperately needs right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diver Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 I am behind you with this post. Copy. paste it and save it and bring it out this December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 We'll have none of that "voice of reason" on this board, Casey! Now, go to your room! BTW, I agree with you. God forbid the Bills try a different approach this time after six years of futility! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jms62 Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 From Casey D Jauron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dib Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Jauron may not be flashy, he has the brains and character that this team so desperately needs right now. 579193[/snapback] All well and good, someone tell me his w/l record with the Bears and the Lions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey D Posted January 23, 2006 Author Share Posted January 23, 2006 Jauron may not be flashy, he has the brains and character that this team so desperately needs right now. 579193[/snapback] All well and good, someone tell me his w/l record with the Bears and the Lions. 579201[/snapback] Tell me Bill Belicick's 5 year record with Cleveland? Rep on him at the time, great coordinator, over matched as a head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkie Gerzowski Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Tell me Bill Belicick's 5 year record with Cleveland? Rep on him at the time, great coordinator, over matched as a head coach. This has been mentioned too many times now. Belichick does not equal Jauron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey D Posted January 23, 2006 Author Share Posted January 23, 2006 Tell me Bill Belicick's 5 year record with Cleveland? Rep on him at the time, great coordinator, over matched as a head coach.This has been mentioned too many times now. Belichick does not equal Jauron. 579225[/snapback] Not saying he is(who is?)--but DJ's record has been quoted even more times as sure proof of future failure. And you know he will be a failure how? Because Mike Sherman with Brett Favre beat Jauron with Jim Miller. Tell me you know something more than that to explain your certainty that DJ will be a failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Enter Dick Jauron. I want to see teams, like those when Levy coached, who know how to take a punch and get back up and fight some more. I want a team that beats Miami when the QB finds a way into the end zone on the last play, not one that loses on the last play. Levy knew character and quality before. I think he still does. And while Jauron may not be flashy, he has the brains and character that this team so desperately needs right now. 579193[/snapback] Well, I lived in Chicago throughout the Dick Jauron era and I can most assuredly tell you that what you have described above has little in common with a Dick Jauron team. His teams were boring, unimaginative, undisciplined, and exceedingly boring to watch. His personality makes Mike Mularkey seem effervescent and effusive. Jauron stonewalls in press conferences, mumbles, and generally makes one wish your team had never hired him. The 13-3 season had very little to do with his coaching, it is referred to in Chciago as the "miracle year" due to the improbable series of events that lead to five wins. The offense was atrocious and the defense was overrated. They played a last place schedule and got lucky...much like this year's Bears team did. The rest of his teams were miserable failures and the players did not enjoy playing for him. His defenses specialized in the "bend but don't break" schemes that were proven ineffective in Jacksonville, Chicago, and Detroit. The day he was fired in Chciago was a great day. This guy is "ol' boys network" hire and I am thoroughly disappointed with Marv's first move. I'd rather the Bills had given a guy like Bobby April or Jim Caldwell a shot rather than this recycled bum. I don't know the reasns as to why Sherman was not hired, nor can I speculate, but Dick Jauron is the wrong hire. Have fun Bills fans, you're gonna f@cking hate Dick Jauron by Week 1 of the preseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkie Gerzowski Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Not saying he is(who is?)--but DJ's record has been quoted even more times as sure proof of future failure. And you know he will be a failure how? Because Mike Sherman with Brett Favre beat Jauron with Jim Miller. Tell me you know something more than that to explain your certainty that DJ will be a failure. 579237[/snapback] I'm saying people need to quit viewing Jauron's 2nd go-round as head coach by applying it to Belichick's level. Different people, different situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Tell me Bill Belicick's 5 year record with Cleveland? Rep on him at the time, great coordinator, over matched as a head coach. 579208[/snapback] Bill Belichick had little talent on the roster, an owner at war with the city and fans, horrible situation. Jauron had none of those problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey D Posted January 23, 2006 Author Share Posted January 23, 2006 Well, I lived in Chicago throughout the Dick Jauron era and I can most assuredly tell you that what you have described above has little in common with a Dick Jauron team. His teams were boring, unimaginative, undisciplined, and exceedingly boring to watch. His personality makes Mike Mularkey seem effervescent and effusive. Jauron stonewalls in press conferences, mumbles, and generally makes one wish your team had never hired him. The 13-3 season had very little to do with his coaching, it is referred to in Chciago as the "miracle year" due to the improbable series of events that lead to five wins. The offense was atrocious and the defense was overrated. They played a last place schedule and got lucky...much like this year's Bears team did. The rest of his teams were miserable failures and the players did not enjoy playing for him. His defenses specialized in the "bend but don't break" schemes that were proven ineffective in Jacksonville, Chicago, and Detroit. The day he was fired in Chciago was a great day. This guy is "ol' boys network" hire and I am thoroughly disappointed with Marv's first move. I'd rather the Bills had given a guy like Bobby April or Jim Caldwell a shot rather than this recycled bum. I don't know the reasns as to why Sherman was not hired, nor can I speculate, but Dick Jauron is the wrong hire. Have fun Bills fans, you're gonna f@cking hate Dick Jauron by Week 1 of the preseason. 579238[/snapback] And you are the GM of what team? And are you a Bills' fan? You say you hate the hire and then say you would have hired Jim Caldwell, then say have fun Bills' fans because we are going to hate him? Yeah and bend but don't break schemes must be bad, we did so well with blitzing on every down this year...lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tolstoy Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 The Buffalo Bills have been run like a fantasy team for the fans over the last five years. Lots of flash and good PR, but no character. Need to get the fans excited, trade for an over-the-hill Bledsoe and watch the fans come out like he's Jim Kelly. Need another shot of adreneline, sign an aging Lawyer Milloy in 2003. Fans hate Gregg Williams, fire him. Fans want a hot new QB, draft Losman. Fans sick of Bledsoe and want hot young QB, dump Bledsoe. And the fans lapped it up, selling out every game in 2005, while the team sunk to new depths. Now we have a new sheriff in town named Marv Levy, who has a very different approach. We are going to build this team right, from the bottom up with quality, character players. Not everyone will be from that lack of character institution--the University of Miami--we'll get some quality guys. We will build the lines-- so we can block and tackle. We will get the fundamentals right. Enter Dick Jauron. Certainly no flash there. But by every account a quality man who players will play for. Oh, and he went to Yale, so he's likely smart, and can learn from his mistakes. And he's high character, and a teacher. And he knows the value of a stout D-line. So what do many on this board want--run him out of town. Why, because we did not hire the flashier, instant gratification candidate in Mike Sherman. And truth be told as much as the fans say they hated TD at the end, they in fact miss his "give the fans what they want" approach, even if they don't know anything about building a winning business, much less a football team. All they know is that they want to make a big splash today, so the media will say nice things about us. I am tired of the TD approach. I am tired of the push for instant gratification. I want to see teams, like those when Levy coached, who know how to take a punch and get back up and fight some more. I want a team that beats Miami when the QB finds a way into the end zone on the last play, not one that loses on the last play. Levy knew character and quality before. I think he still does. And while Jauron may not be flashy, he has the brains and character that this team so desperately needs right now. 579193[/snapback] Nice post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey D Posted January 23, 2006 Author Share Posted January 23, 2006 Bill Belichick had little talent on the roster, an owner at war with the city and fans, horrible situation. Jauron had none of those problems. 579240[/snapback] Now I know you are reaching--the Bears hardly had coffers full of talent when DJ was there. Thanks for the thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey D Posted January 23, 2006 Author Share Posted January 23, 2006 I'm saying people need to quit viewing Jauron's 2nd go-round as head coach by applying it to Belichick's level. Different people, different situations. 579239[/snapback] That's tautological--what kind of insight is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanInSouthBuffalo Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 All well and good, someone tell me his w/l record with the Bears and the Lions. 579201[/snapback] Coach of the Year in 2001. Third in Coach of the year voting the year he was FIRED by the Bears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Not saying he is(who is?)--but DJ's record has been quoted even more times as sure proof of future failure. And you know he will be a failure how? Because Mike Sherman with Brett Favre beat Jauron with Jim Miller. Tell me you know something more than that to explain your certainty that DJ will be a failure. 579237[/snapback] Even if you discount BB's HC stint at Cleveland, at least he'd been a highly accomplished coordinator with two SB rings prior to that. DJ's only accomplishment has been one year of success playing a last place schedule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockpile Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 Personally, if was Jauron, I would not have included this on my resume: Bills defensive backs coach under Kay Stephenson (1985) Stephenson was fired after week four in this 2-14 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 And you are the GM of what team? And are you a Bills' fan? You say you hate the hire and then say you would have hired Jim Caldwell, then say have fun Bills' fans because we are going to hate him? Yeah and bend but don't break schemes must be bad, we did so well with blitzing on every down this year...lol... 579242[/snapback] Who said I was the GM of any team? I am just detailing my observations and those of other Bears fans when it comes to Jauron's coaching prowess, or lack there of... I do hate the hire, as you will as well. If you're going to hire a proven loser whose notoriety comes from being a "defensive specialist", why hire a guy whose defenses have been mediocre with multiple teams? He was a mediocre DC in three cities, a less than medicocre HC in Chicago, and does nothing to excite the fanbase. He most likely was hired because he's cheap and Marv is "comfortable" with him, much like Donahoe was "comfortable" with Mularkey. I'd rather see a team hire a young guy with a fresh outlook than a recycled bum, what's so wrong with that? FWIW, I'm not advocating a blitz happy defense, especially with the limited talent the Bills have in the defensive backfield. I am also not advocating Jauron's defensive schemes that have proven to be ineffective in three cities. Take it or leave it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted January 23, 2006 Share Posted January 23, 2006 wow. talk about your fantasies. So, it is actually a GOOD thing that Dick Jauron was a miserable, hated failure everywhere he went because that makes him more like Bill Belichek? The only thing DJ has on his resume that got him hired was the word "Chicago" and the fact that Hall of Fame Coach Marvelous Marv Levy, your General Manager and man guiding the ship, used to watch him coach on the sidelines during the years he was begging to get back into the NFL (pleads that fell on deaf ears). That is truly outstanding.... It's great to see that people can look at a pile of crap and see an image of the messiah in the twist and turns simply because that pile of crap has an ancient friend who wants to be comfortable and busy in his last years on earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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