Dawgg Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 This article confirms that it was Ralph who wanted to play RJ for the Tennessee playoff game. A common misconception was that Wade couldn't decide between QBs, but I think the decision was made for him despite his preference for Doug Flutie. http://ledger.southofboston.com/articles/2...ts/sports04.txt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 At least with RJ, he left the field with the lead, not after having been sacked and fumbled away the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweet baboo Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 and one shoe! a win would've immortalized the one shoe Flutie told the Press-Enterprise that he believed it was Buffalo owner Ralph Wilson who pressured Phillips into the switch. how is that proof? he's got a disgruntled hunch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 This article confirms that it was Ralph who wanted to play RJ for the Tennessee playoff game. A common misconception was that Wade couldn't decide between QBs, but I think the decision was made for him despite his preference for Doug Flutie. http://ledger.southofboston.com/articles/2...ts/sports04.txt 526243[/snapback] Whoever made the decision made the RIGHT decision at the time. Our favorite little man, Skin Flutie, was sucking up a storm and I don't believe we would have had a chance in that game with him at the helm. Remember Skin has NEVER EVER won a playoff game in the NFL...and the year before, gave away a game in Miami that would have put us into the playoffs (if I recall correctly). RJ played like crap in that game...but, in a Flutie-esque 4th Q drive put the Bills ahead...and that should have been that. With that said, Fu#k Flitie, Fu#k RJ and Fu#k Bum's Kid while you're at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 Bottom line is, it's ancient history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 Whoever made the decision made the RIGHT decision at the time. Our favorite little man, Skin Flutie, was sucking up a storm and I don't believe we would have had a chance in that game with him at the helm. Remember Skin has NEVER EVER won a playoff game in the NFL...and the year before, gave away a game in Miami that would have put us into the playoffs (if I recall correctly). RJ played like crap in that game...but, in a Flutie-esque 4th Q drive put the Bills ahead...and that should have been that. With that said, Fu#k Flitie, Fu#k RJ and Fu#k Bum's Kid while you're at it. 526289[/snapback] whatever. it's not as if flutie didn't light up miami's top ranked pass d like a christmas tree that game while johnson played like utter crap for 55 minutes against the 25th ranked pass d the following year. don't let facts get in the way, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 whatever. it's not as if flutie didn't light up miami's top ranked pass d like a christmas tree that game while johnson played like utter crap for 55 minutes against the 25th ranked pass d the following year. don't let facts get in the way, though. 526314[/snapback] Come on, man, look at the OL RJ had in that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsjunkie Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 Who the heck cares? Both RJ and Doug were crappy QBs too. We havent had a good QB in here since Jimbo left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Wheels Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 My cat's breath smells like cat food! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanfromAlbany Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 My cat's breath smells like cat food! 526331[/snapback] Mine too. Can't they make mouthwash for cats or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flutieflakes Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 It was the wrong decision and the entire organization has been paying for it ever since. To this day the Bills are feeling the BAD KARMA known as the Flutie Curse! The question is what needs to be done to reverse this curse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanfromAlbany Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 No matter how many times you beat that horse mister, it aint gettin' up. You might want to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flutieflakes Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 I'll move on once we make the playoffs again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splinter21 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 I'll move on once we make the playoffs again. 526368[/snapback] i agree with you. its so sad how blind some people are about how much of an impact that time had on where the organization is at now. its so blatantly obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanfromAlbany Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 The same could be said for Drew or Jim Kelly or O.J. or Jack Kemp. If you want to live in the past fine... but there are so many others in the history of this team that meant more than the Magic Mulletted Midget. Why not choose Jim Kelly? I would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 whatever. it's not as if flutie didn't light up miami's top ranked pass d like a christmas tree that game while johnson played like utter crap for 55 minutes against the 25th ranked pass d the following year. don't let facts get in the way, though. 526314[/snapback] as long as you are pointing out the facts... what was the home record of the Titans in '99 and '00? What is the correlation between turnovers and wins in the NFL playoffs? Who played LT for the '99 Bills playoff edition? What does your definition of "light up" mean? 17 points? That;s what I thought... don't let ALL the facts get in the way, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 as long as you are pointing out the facts... what was the home record of the Titans in '99 and '00? What is the correlation between turnovers and wins in the NFL playoffs? Who played LT for the '99 Bills playoff edition? What does your definition of "light up" mean? 17 points? That;s what I thought... don't let ALL the facts get in the way, though. 526543[/snapback] facts: flutie was 21-36 for 360 yards (10 yds/pass play) with 1 td and 1 int and 4 rushes for 29 yards. he also lost a fumble on a sack by trace armstrong. that year, miami was 7-1 at home and their only loss was a squeaker to the jets. as for their defense, they were 3rd overall, led the league in INTs, and were 6th in TD passes allowed. and whoever was playing tackle for the bills that day surely wasn't much better than the guys lining up in 1999 notwithstanding any hobbling. actual pocket awareness on the part of the qb tends to make those '98 guys look better, though. call me crazy, but given the circumstances, that looks like lighting them up to me. johnson was 10-22 for 131 yards and was sacked in the endzone, which of course resulted in points for TN. TN, which was 8-0 at home (pretty much a wash compared to the dolphins), was 26th in pass defense, 27th in ypa given up, 27th in TD passes allowed, and 17th in interceptions. they were 18th overall in defense. those are the facts, actually. p.s. 2000 was a different season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 why are we still talking about this, why is flutie still in the nfl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 facts: flutie was 21-36 for 360 yards (10 yds/pass play) with 1 td and 1 int and 4 rushes for 29 yards. he also lost a fumble on a sack by trace armstrong. that year, miami was 7-1 at home and their only loss was a squeaker to the jets. as for their defense, they were 3rd overall, led the league in INTs, and were 6th in TD passes allowed. and whoever was playing tackle for the bills that day surely wasn't much better than the guys lining up in 1999 notwithstanding any hobbling. actual pocket awareness on the part of the qb tends to make those '98 guys look better, though. call me crazy, but given the circumstances, that looks like lighting them up to me. johnson was 10-22 for 131 yards and was sacked in the endzone, which of course resulted in points for TN. TN, which was 8-0 at home (pretty much a wash compared to the dolphins), was 26th in pass defense, 27th in ypa given up, 27th in TD passes allowed, and 17th in interceptions. they were 18th overall in defense. those are the facts, actually. p.s. 2000 was a different season. 526586[/snapback] Fact: Flutie - 2 fumbles, and 1 INT. 17 points. Ironically, ended game on his back w/o ball Fact: Johnson - 0 fumbles, 0 INT, 1 safety. 16 points. Ended game with would be winning points. Spare me your analysis on "lighting it up". It meant the difference of 1 point... BTW, Dusty Zeigler was our LT that game and "the greatest show on turf" put up 23 points against the Titans on a neutral site. 1 TD better than our Bills... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 Fact: Flutie - 2 fumbles, and 1 INT. 17 points. Ironically, ended game on his back w/o ballFact: Johnson - 0 fumbles, 0 INT, 1 safety. 16 points. Ended game with would be winning points. Spare me your analysis on "lighting it up". It meant the difference of 1 point... 526604[/snapback] well, at least I've got you to stop championing the tennessee defense! also remember that miami's offense played pretty well that game. the bills gained over 400 yards (the only team to do so that year, i think), but miami gained 352 and marino had a very productive day. mare missed a 26 yard field goal as well. look we can argue about stats all we want, but you and i watched both of those games. the bills offense was thrilling that day in miami, but were killed by the turnovers. moulds had a career day 9 catches for 240 yards. also the bills probably would have had 21 if not for the absolutely braindead penalty by reed at the goal line. in tennessee, the bills offense looked like utter crap the entire game except for that one drive spurred by that 50 yard run by antowain smith and that last drive in which johnson played very, very well. the miami defense was clearly the superior foe, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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