Buckeye Eric Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 The bottom line for me is that there are men playing a kids game for big money. The blame does not lie with the owner, GM, or coaching staff. It is up to the players to perform on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROSCOE P. COE TRAIN Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 according to who? show me some fact to back up this statement you purport. marvin lewis DID NOT WANT TO COME TO BUFFALO - sounds like bullsh--. show some proof as to this. how many times do we havfta go over the fact that marvin lewis didnt WANT to come to buffalo! Tough to hire a coach who doesnt want the job... 459173[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Marvin Lewis would have accepted any head coaching position in the NFL, be it Buffalo, the Arizona Cardinals or any other team. Fact is, he didn't get the offer (bad move Whitey), and was a bit bitter about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Then i'm wrong in my comment...but i remember hearing a lot about how marvin lewis didnt want to leave the ravens just for the buffalo job... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTS Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Then i'm wrong in my comment...but i remember hearing a lot about how marvin lewis didnt want to leave the ravens just for the buffalo job... 460060[/snapback] He was never offered the job. TD couldn't have a Lewis has his head coach. He needed someone he could have better control over. Enter MM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 He was never offered the job. TD couldn't have a Lewis has his head coach. He needed someone he could have better control over. Enter MM. 460061[/snapback] Really? I'm wondering where you get your crazy info. Do you have a link, or is this just more wild speculation on your part? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted October 1, 2005 Share Posted October 1, 2005 Well, to answer to the thread question, I guess I wpould say, oh, I dunno, maybe ANYONE who can make the playoffs is probably a good place to start! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typical TBD Guy Posted October 2, 2005 Share Posted October 2, 2005 Anyone here still want to defend Teflon Tom? Marck, how about you? "Excellent GM?" Give me a !@#$ing break . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koobie Posted October 2, 2005 Share Posted October 2, 2005 It's about time to start pointing the finger at St. Donahoe for this mess of a football team!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted October 2, 2005 Share Posted October 2, 2005 I am going to vent my frustations for all of the individuals on this board who think they have any knowledge of football, whether it be at the level of a dedicated Bills fan or someone who has somne level of league wide knowledge. I have read post after post on this board decrying the efforts of Tom Donahoe's performance as the General Manager of the Buffalo Bills. The whinning, complaining and complains about I am fed up with not making the playoffs, and his personnel moves suck, and he is an idiot and is ruining the team. People, please get your heads out of your collective a__ses. Look at the roster that was inherited after the 2000 season. Look at the salary cap mess that this team was in. I have seen complaint after complaint that the teams record is 27-40 in his tenure. In his first draft, TD trades down, picks up Nate Clements, gets an extra 2nd round pick for Travis Henry who gives the Bills two really good years after an average season, and now we get an additional 3rd round pick in the 2006 draft after dumping the druggie on the fading Titans. Also, we did also get Aaron Schoebel who is an excellent DE on this years team and who is also signed to a long term deal. Lastly, he drafted Jonas Jennings who is now gone, but will be worth a compensatory pick in the 2006 draft. Well, first of all you can toss the 3-13 record in his first year. That was the remnants of the late John Butler's spend all the cap money on aging veterans with diminishing skills and pay the rest to QB's who were to short or too disinterested (Flutie/Johnson). With the high pick in that draft we get Mike Williams who to date has been good but not great, but has been developing and will be a pro bowl player in the next couple of seasons. Later in that draft TD drafts Terrance McGee who is a pro bowl return specialist and developing as an excellent CB. So, we move to year two, team gets Bledsoe, which energizes the fan base increases revenue, allowing the Bills to have the revenue to bring in quality free agent upgrades to improve the defense. Also at the end of this year, TD makes the ultimite gamble and lets the Falcons throw stupid money at Peerless Price and we then turn around and use that money to add Takeo Spikes and use the draft choice to draft Willis McGahee, how does that move look now Donahoe haters? Now in the long term Bledsoe needed more protection and the offensive line constructed has not been able to get that job done. This is an area that TD has not addressed sufficently and I will concede that point. The patchwork effort has led to a lack of cohesion and there is a need to use draft picks to boost this part of our team. Lastly, this team may be one year away from being a significant player in the AFC East for the rest of this decade and it is in part to the excellent work done by TD and the efforts of the players on this roster and the additions that will be made in the future. I know many of you on this board do not remember or are too young and immature to think backs of the teams under Bill Pollian that went 2-14, 4-12 and 4-12 before maturing into the team that won the AFC East from 1988 to 1991 and went to four straight Super Bowls. Be patient and let this team develop instead of your constant whining and bitching because frankly I am getting fed up reading it from you bandwagon losers. Go ahead and argue with me on what I have written, but I guarantee you that any point you bring up will not be supported by facts which I will prove out in my response, so fire away all TD bashers, as I am ready for you. 458703[/snapback] Name one better???..........mmmmm....Maude Fricket!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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