Surfmeister Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 Crooked Zebra thrive in New England I can't remember the last time the Pats didn't clear the spread at home and they did it again last night. Spread was 7.5 and they won by 10. SOS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kay Stephenson Fan Club Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 Wow - with all the tumult in the last 9 months, I knew I could come back here and it would be like nothing has changed. Death, taxes and complaining about how the Pats got lucky, paid off the refs, cheated, etc... This has been very refreshing. Good luck this year - as a Tulane grad, I want nothing but success for JP Losman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRH Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 You've officially lost all credibility as a Pats fan who sees things objectively from time to time. 434735[/snapback] He lost it last night when he claimed that he never saw the ball hit the ground on that "catch" just before halftime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 or the amount of non calls on the patriots oline for blatant offensive holding. Brady is a good quaterback there's no denying that, but the amount of times that oline gets away with holding giving him eons to throw is just assinine 434512[/snapback] I was wondering in the entire game was a single offensive hold called on the OL of NE? Just amazes me how on the CD TD that the blocker on outside had looked like he made a great block but in replay clearly showed that hands werent just under the shoulder pads but guy had a fist full of jersey in each. As they showed replay Madden was spouting off about what a great block it was and ignored the handful of jersey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 I think the Pats D adjusted well in the 2nd half....I was disappointed that Turner did not Run Jordan more often in the 2nd half...thereby playing right into the hands of the Patriots....All they had to do was cover Moss and the rest was history....Turner coached sort of a Gilbride in the 2nd half...Instead of mixing things up.... And the Raiders D really stinks.....So many 3rd and longs and Brady was completing them without any problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 He lost it last night when he claimed that he never saw the ball hit the ground on that "catch" just before halftime. 434749[/snapback] WHAAAAAT? Sweet fancy moses...Stevie Wonder saw that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 I agree, it had nothing to do with the refs. Moss is simply pathetic to watch sometimes. The play where he drew the offensive interference call in the endzone was a pathetic effort against a small CB. He basically didn't even try. Moss is sickening to watch sometimes. 434687[/snapback] Prior to that, there was a play where Moss was interfered with in the end zone by Punk-ass Harrison, and after the play, Harrison got all up in the refs face about why he didn't throw a flag... on Moss! (P.S. it's ok to browbeat a ref on national TV if you play for New England. If that was London Fletcher, 15 yards for sure). I guess RM figured, you want offensive PI? Here, I'll give you some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachChuckDickerson Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 It must be great to be a New England Patriot knowing that the refs will always give you an extra first down or save a touchdown with some horrendous flag out of nowhere. How many penalties were on Oakland in the second half? How many of them looked like total made up BS? All Assante Samuels has to do is give 'em the "what did I do?" look and the PI flag goes on Moss. PTR 434507[/snapback] What about the BS hands in the face penalty called against the Pats in the first quarter that led to the Raiders first score......guess that one doesn't count. By the way, when an WR grabs a handful of jersey a pulls down a DB who is trying to make a play on the ball. It is a penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catholic Guilt Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 I watched the entire game and must say the officials were HORRIBLE. Sure the Raiders played a stupid game, but some of those calls I was left shakiing my head. I hope someone knocks Rodney Harrison's head off this season. I hate him. Thinks he's Jack Tatum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 i forgot about that. COMPLETLY TRUE. the ref said, "forarm to the head, when the player was on the ground". but the WR JSUT caught the ball, and was simply tackled by the defender. harrison's ST tackle was INSAIN. i expect a fine. 434644[/snapback] I thought that play by Harrison should have drawn a flag. Unnecessary roughness, personal foul, clothesline play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patswhiponthebills Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 or the amount of non calls on the patriots oline for blatant offensive holding. Brady is a good quaterback there's no denying that, but the amount of times that oline gets away with holding giving him eons to throw is just assinine 434512[/snapback] are you kidding me??? that raider o-line did more holding in that one game last night then the pats did in all of last year combined. especially robert gallery that overrated sloth. it happened more times then i can remember last night. and dont get me started on the raider receivers giving little bumps and pushoffs last night on nearly every pass attempt..but of course jealous bitter fans will see what they wanna see and say what they wanna here. (well,like you). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 I was wondering in the entire game was a single offensive hold called on the OL of NE? Just amazes me how on the CD TD that the blocker on outside had looked like he made a great block but in replay clearly showed that hands werent just under the shoulder pads but guy had a fist full of jersey in each. As they showed replay Madden was spouting off about what a great block it was and ignored the handful of jersey. 434757[/snapback] they won't call holding on anyone as long as he keeps his hands inside the shoulder of the defender. the pats who looked like they were holding did exactly that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman's Helmet Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 I know facts get in the way when it comes to whining about the Patriots but here's a fact, the most penalized team in the NFL is? The Oakland Raiders. But I guess its easier to just claim that the refs are in New England's pockets. Whatever works for as you start preparing your excuses for when the Pats whip up on the Bills another 2 times this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollywood Donahoe Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 You've officially lost all credibility as a Pats fan who sees things objectively from time to time. Take another look at the play. You can't even SEE SAMUEL'S NUMBER at one point because Moss is pulling so hard on his jersey. As for credibility, you lost it all with me when you TWICE dodged my rebuttals to your falsehoods about Brady's postseason end zone INTs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfmeister Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 You're very welcome ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRH Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 WHAAAAAT? Sweet fancy moses...Stevie Wonder saw that. 434822[/snapback] Here you go. Stevie may have seen it, but not our man Hollywood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollywood Donahoe Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 Here you go. Stevie may have seen it, but not our man Hollywood. If someone could post a screencap of the ball hitting the ground, it'd be much appreciated. I'm not seeing it, but maybe you guys could point it out for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRH Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 If someone could post a screencap of the ball hitting the ground, it'd be much appreciated. I'm not seeing it, but maybe you guys could point it out for me. 435097[/snapback] I think Fez offered to make you a DVD. Check that. A WMV file, I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 If someone could post a screencap of the ball hitting the ground, it'd be much appreciated. I'm not seeing it, but maybe you guys could point it out for me. 435097[/snapback] The way I saw it the ball did contact the ground but at that time it was secured between his hands... Thus the recent "Tampa Bay game" rule would go into effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRH Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 The way I saw it the ball did contact the ground but at that time it was secured between his hands... Thus the recent "Tampa Bay game" rule would go into effect. 435109[/snapback] If the ball moves when it hits the ground, it's no catch, right? Because that ball definitely moved, whether it was secured in his hands before hitting the ground or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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