patswhiponthebills

you mean the gimmick offense that works at a high leve??? vrable can run short routes,he can catch,vrable is a football player,and football players play football. NUFF SAID.

just because losman played out of his mind in that kc game does not mean that he is better then holcomb. manning and brady probably would not have brought them back. chit,if you put losman in that same situation again,he would probably throw 2 pics. --- i certainly think that holcomb could have played as good as jp in the dolphin game. jp did NOTHING after the first quarter. kelly is just more consistent. do you think that jp could have done as good as holcomb did up in new england where the bills nearly pulled it out??? i think not.

btw, bruschi with 2 sacks today..just wanted two pass that along.

you sound like you should be on the buf coaching staff. that type of scared mentality is what seperates the winners from losers. i cant stand scared football. the ppl that go,what IF this happens,or,what IF that happens. toughen up and grow a sack. it was the correct call.

ppl dont want a proven coach because of bitterness???????? that is so "Dawgged". those superbowl games were over a decade ago, get F-EN OVER IT.

THE BRADY FLAG WAS BS AND SO IS THIS ROUGHING THE PASSER CHIT ON COLVIN,THEY HARDLY TOUCHED. AND THEY TOUCH BECAUSE ANOTHER PAT ACCIDENTALLY HIT COLVIN INTO HIM.

pats beat themselves in the first half of that bills first game in foxboro. pats receivers keep dropping wide open 3rd down passes and were forced to punt.it had notihing to do with the bills playing great defense or anything.it was the pats being there own worst enemy.ALSO factor in the patrick pass PHANTOM FUMBLE in the first half. in the second half of that game when the pats said enough was enough,you then seen the true disparity of those teams,and the pats went on to manhandle buffalo from then on. EDIT---i actually meant to quote,tc in stlouis and not bufforange.

not true at all actually. weei(boston radio) usually has ratings after the games and i cannot recall the last time the sox had a higher rating then the pats when they have been on at the same time.and that includes pats against redsox vs yankee games on at the same time. and it also includes a redsox elimination PLAYOFF game.pats had a higher rating then the sox when they(sox) were down 0-2 to the athletics in a best of 5 playoff series.it was game 3 in fenway,and the pats were playing a regular season game vs the titans at foxboro at the same time. i remember the pats won the ratings battle by quite a bit to on that day. im not that surprised though. watching baseball(even playoff baseball) is about as exciting as watching 2 fat ppl have sex.

the guy always seemed like a big creep to me. i have a feeling a lot of things are gonna come out about this guy soon enough(some sick things to).

bruschi always does that.he leaps up in the air,becomes flipped,and ends up on the other side of the defender,and closer to the qb. he nearly got a safety on that play the other day. the guy is the closest thing to superman in the league.

atleast with eli you can see potential. even during eli's first 4 starts you can see him making some really good plays. you an tell he had IT.or should i say,you can see IT coming/developing. i can just tell that losman is garbage.the guy should not be in the nfl period. he has zero qb skills and will go down as one of the worst first round buf picks ever. i see nothing from this guy that says different. believe me, all i needed was 4 games to see the most OBVIOUS. this guy does not have it.

nah,i think brady and the boys will beat them by adding on to there league leading 20+ yard passes completed total.

ppl ppl ppl,football is NOT what caused the MINOR stroke. it had nothing to do with football in the first place.it had nothing to do with his head either.the hole(s) in his heart are completely fixed/healed. if he does have another stroke,it wont be from football. ppl need a clue.. every top notch doctor he seen has cleared him,and they say he coud have another stroke,but not from football.football does not cause them(lol @some ppl here).he also has his wifes blessing btw. i think ppl here are a little bit scared that the bills most likely have to face the pats with a healthy gay,poole,seymour and bruschi in 2 weeks huh. that = blowout.

according to ppl closest to him,he has recovered much quicker then expected. he also did not have a major stroke. he was excercising just weeks after it happened,and football is not what caused the minor stroke in the first place.his heart is healed,he's strong and ready to go. he has his wifes blessings and doctors ok. cant wait to see him pick off those buffalo garbage qb's left and right.the best iml is coming back soooooon.

it does not always workout like that,in fact, a lot of times it does not work like that. jp's confidence was getting shattered more and more week by week. he needs a break and to cool down. last year bledsoe played like a retarded retard.there was nothing to learn. the defense played better then drew did at managing last year,thats how they won. and of course some guys dont get better whether they play or watch(im thinking this might be jp).

pats got screwed out of about 3 different calls that went in favor of the falcons including a phantom holding call that made getting a first down nearly impossible,hhhmmm,noticed you did not bring this up. ---anyways,if vick plays,pats win by 14 points. pats would have tested vick and his accuracy and made him throw(wich he cant).

according to sources close to bb,they were gonna give drew 1-2 more games(indy,miami) to get it going right. if not,brady was gonna take over from here,regardless if the injury happens or not. drew was gonna get the hook no matter what. he(drew) was just NOT a bb type guy. brady out played db in the 01 pre-season.it was drews huge $$$ that was keeping him in the lineup(at least for a LITTLE while longer).

that was not great. it was a decent game by jp. the first quarter was very good,but the next 3 quarters were very average.and he was playing a terribly average team to begin with.

he has been saying hi mom since his first year... this was certainly not the first time that he was not clean shaven. i remember on weei(sports talk radio) in 2002,there was a lot of time spent on toms appearance because his hair was getting to long and curly and was looking like a bum off the streets. it was just so retarded(sorta like this thread subject).he even had a beard for most of the playoffs the last few years

are you kidding me??? that raider o-line did more holding in that one game last night then the pats did in all of last year combined. especially robert gallery that overrated sloth. it happened more times then i can remember last night. and dont get me started on the raider receivers giving little bumps and pushoffs last night on nearly every pass attempt..but of course jealous bitter fans will see what they wanna see and say what they wanna here. (well,like you).

i know, tell me about it huh. how many times can moss and the rest of those receivers keep pushing off on the pats db's in one game? and how many times did the raiders o-line hold the pats d-line out of desperation?? i lost count by the 3rd quarter. im glad somebody else noticed that to

there are many times when tom buys himself a extra second or two in the pocket because he moves around great in thepocket. he sides steps to his left and right to avoid pressure and/or steps up into the pocket to avoid pressure.

always seemed to pick up 6 yards a run???? the guy did not even average 4 yards a carry last night. what game did you watch. dillon had a very good second half.the raiders defense was geared to stop the run last night. and for other posters.... the pats pass defense looked very good last night. they made collins MISS MORE THEN HALF HIS PASSES for cyring out loud. he had 3 td's but the last one was in garbage time after having great field position after a blocked punt.and another to moss after a throw em up pass where moss was covered quite well but made a awesome catch after a tough bobble.the guy is the greatest deep threat wide receiver of all time. i think making a qb miss more then half his passes and holding there best rb to under 4 ypc is quite well especially on week 1. ppl here say what they want to believe instead of talking fact.

how are the bills gonna take anything without a qb?

pats actally lost law last year and won it all without him. pats secondary is much deeper this year. bruschi is a loss,but brown and beisel were added.there not as good as bruschi,but there still good. pats replaced a real good pats coach(romeo) with another real good pats coach(mangini,db coach). the offensive game book is the same. this is the best and deepest group of players on offense the pats had in there superbowl years right now. bills fight to stay out of the basement with the fish,miami and buf have no qb. i think the best qb out of those 2 teams is holmcromb.i hope he stays on the bench all year.