Thurman's Helmet Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 Remember kids, Gweyneth, Apple and I urge you to support FAIR TRADE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 Not to be a jerk or whatever, but to me, it's a shame that people can't get into music. You have to dig deeper than 103.3 the edge. GREAT modern music exists, its just a matter of whether or not you love music enough to go find it. Â That being said, Coldplay is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 Coldplay is a great band-I love their sound! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alg Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 Simple pop or not, it doesn't do much for me. They might be the most technically correct musicians in the business; I could care less. Good for them, nice to see more than three chords and screaming and all that, but if it doesn't appeal to me, it doesn't appeal to me. There are too many artificial boundaries. I feel a cliched speech about how labels suck and how alternative is mainstream coming on... insert that rant {HERE}.  -Jeff 429516[/snapback]  No argument from me. Personal tast is altogether a different issue. I just just get worked up a little when people dismiss them for being "pop" or "like everyone else." They are guilty, not nesasarily of bad tast, but of not paying attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBTG81 Posted September 5, 2005 Author Share Posted September 5, 2005 Glad you had a great time! I like speed of sound and plan to start checking out their other stuff on real rhapsody. 429574[/snapback]  Awesome!  Check out the song "Fix You." It is amazing, and was even better in person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 Coldplay sucks. They took one good idea of Radiohead's (out of many), repeat, repeat, repeat. They do NOT write good songs - the lyrics are ridiculously cheesy, and all of their melodies sound the same. Check out the New York Times article from about a month ago, which called Coldplay "the most insufferable band of the decade." Their entire sound is an attempt to simulate emotion without actually evoking it. They're just another Emo band - they're only as "great" as Duran Duran (although that's probably giving them wayyyyyy too much credit). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grammer_police Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=3167 Â scroll down to middle of page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorCal Aaron Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 Coldplay sucks. They took one good idea of Radiohead's (out of many), repeat, repeat, repeat. They do NOT write good songs - the lyrics are ridiculously cheesy, and all of their melodies sound the same. Check out the New York Times article from about a month ago, which called Coldplay "the most insufferable band of the decade." Their entire sound is an attempt to simulate emotion without actually evoking it. They're just another Emo band - they're only as "great" as Duran Duran (although that's probably giving them wayyyyyy too much credit). 429814[/snapback]   I love you man.   Fact is that CP's lite rock is tailor made for sorority reunions, waiting rooms, and guys who drive Volkswagons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 Everything out now sucks. Can hold a candle to The Who or Led Zepplin. Yeah I'm an old fogey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman's Helmet Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 They arent Foghat, thats for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverNRed Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=3167Â scroll down to middle of page 429844[/snapback] Like the Coldplay analysis; LOVE the Yin Yang Twins analysis. Even though that song is disturbing as hell - I still like it. Just once I'd like to date a girl slutty enough that I could say that stuff to her....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live&DieBillsFootball Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 Coldplay sucks. They took one good idea of Radiohead's (out of many), repeat, repeat, repeat. They do NOT write good songs - the lyrics are ridiculously cheesy, and all of their melodies sound the same. Check out the New York Times article from about a month ago, which called Coldplay "the most insufferable band of the decade." Their entire sound is an attempt to simulate emotion without actually evoking it. They're just another Emo band - they're only as "great" as Duran Duran (although that's probably giving them wayyyyyy too much credit). 429814[/snapback]  Everyone has their own taste in music. Even Boxcar Willie and Panfir the Pan Flute guy have both sold lots of records.  A review in the New York Times is still just one person's opinion. I recently listened to Coldplay's X&Y cd. I thought that some songs were really good, some were mediocre, and some were lame. Sort of like most cd's that I've heard recently from other bands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezmid Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 GREAT modern music exists, its just a matter of whether or not you love music enough to go find it. 429616[/snapback]  Exactly right. For example:  http://www.ayreon.com http://www.shadowgallery.com  These bands never get radio play, but they're both awesome.  CW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallow Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 Old people will always resist change. It's only natural to feel threatened by what you don't understand. In the case of many people on this board, it's relevant and good music since 1983. Â Sting is a pompous sellout. He gives up his music to commercials and artists in other genres in an attempt to stay cool. Someone should just tell him that if he wants to stay cool, he should just release a good album for the first time in 20 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBTG81 Posted September 7, 2005 Author Share Posted September 7, 2005 Coldplay sucks. They took one good idea of Radiohead's (out of many), repeat, repeat, repeat. They do NOT write good songs - the lyrics are ridiculously cheesy, and all of their melodies sound the same. Check out the New York Times article from about a month ago, which called Coldplay "the most insufferable band of the decade." Their entire sound is an attempt to simulate emotion without actually evoking it. They're just another Emo band - they're only as "great" as Duran Duran (although that's probably giving them wayyyyyy too much credit). 429814[/snapback]   Yawn. As a basis of comparison, why don't you list some bands you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 Yawn. As a basis of comparison, why don't you list some bands you like. 431501[/snapback] Â Because that's not relevant to Coldplay sucking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 Music is subjective and I find it incredibly arrogant and elitist when people think their taste in music is superior. That is like saying "I have better taste in food then you". People get over yourselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gross Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 I was at the show in Columbus on August 31 and I loved it. The band interacts with the crowd a lot and the lighting design is just awesome. Lasers, TV screens, bright white lights, it was awesome. 429390[/snapback] Â Awesome? did they come out in tight red shorts, no shirt and a cowboy hat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 Music is subjective and I find it incredibly arrogant and elitist when people think their taste in music is superior. That is like saying "I have better taste in food then you".  People get over yourselves 431552[/snapback]  Ordinarily I would agree with you. However, there are some bands that overplay their hand so much that it's actually insulting to the audience - and Coldplay is one of them. They're phonies, plain and simple. Example: read their lyrics - they're like poems written by a freshman in high school. Check out these goodies from the new album:  "What if"  What if there was no light Nothing wrong, nothing right What if there was no time And no reason or rhyme What if you should decide That you don’t want me there by your side That you don’t want me there in your life  What if I got it wrong And no poem or song Could put right what I got wrong Or make you feel I belong What if you should decide That you don’t want me there by your side That you don’t want me there in your life  Oooh, that’s right Let’s take a breath, jump over the side Oooh, that’s right How can you know it if you don’t even try Oooh, that’s right  Every step that you take Could be your biggest mistake It could bend or it could break But that’s the risk that you take What if you should decide That you don’t want me there in your life That you don’t want me there by your side  Ooh, that’s right Let’s take a breath, jump over the side Ooh, that’s right How can you know it when you don’t even try Ooh, that’s right  Ooh, that’s right Let’s take a breath, jump over the side Ooh, that’s right You know the darkness always turns into light Ooh, that’s right   Want more examples of their ridiculousness? Ever notice how they purposely play in a key that's just a hair bit out of the lead singer's range? That's because it makes it sound like he's straining, which makes it sound like he's overcome with emotion. Cheesy lyrics sung in a cheesy fashion. And, as others have pointed out, these kinds of bands are promoted ad naseum, becase they're so easy to produce and control - at the expense of real, quality music that never gets radio play. Want some examples? Fine. Ever hear Yo La Tengo on the radio? Dinosaur Jr.? Modest Mouse, before "Float On"? Sigur Ros?  In some situations, music is not subjective, like when the musicians are frauds. Milli Vanilli was no accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBTG81 Posted September 7, 2005 Author Share Posted September 7, 2005 Ordinarily I would agree with you. However, there are some bands that overplay their hand so much that it's actually insulting to the audience - and Coldplay is one of them. They're phonies, plain and simple. Example: read their lyrics - they're like poems written by a freshman in high school. Check out these goodies from the new album: "What if"  What if there was no light Nothing wrong, nothing right What if there was no time And no reason or rhyme What if you should decide That you don’t want me there by your side That you don’t want me there in your life  What if I got it wrong And no poem or song Could put right what I got wrong Or make you feel I belong What if you should decide That you don’t want me there by your side That you don’t want me there in your life  Oooh, that’s right Let’s take a breath, jump over the side Oooh, that’s right How can you know it if you don’t even try Oooh, that’s right  Every step that you take Could be your biggest mistake It could bend or it could break But that’s the risk that you take What if you should decide That you don’t want me there in your life That you don’t want me there by your side  Ooh, that’s right Let’s take a breath, jump over the side Ooh, that’s right How can you know it when you don’t even try Ooh, that’s right  Ooh, that’s right Let’s take a breath, jump over the side Ooh, that’s right You know the darkness always turns into light Ooh, that’s right  431571[/snapback]   That song is to his daughter. How much deeper do you want it to get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 Everytime I have wings extra hot I have a ring of fire ! What's the big deal ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 That song is to his daughter. How much deeper do you want it to get? 431572[/snapback]  Hmm... well maybe he could write a song apologizing to her for the embarassment she'll have to suffer at school with everyone knowing her dad's a Cheezedick.  I mean look at these clowns:  http://www.alwaysontherun.net/coldplay.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 Ordinarily I would agree with you. However, there are some bands that overplay their hand so much that it's actually insulting to the audience - and Coldplay is one of them. They're phonies, plain and simple. Example: read their lyrics - they're like poems written by a freshman in high school. Check out these goodies from the new album:  Want more examples of their ridiculousness? Ever notice how they purposely play in a key that's just a hair bit out of the lead singer's range? That's because it makes it sound like he's straining, which makes it sound like he's overcome with emotion. Cheesy lyrics sung in a cheesy fashion. And, as others have pointed out, these kinds of bands are promoted ad naseum, becase they're so easy to produce and control - at the expense of real, quality music that never gets radio play. Want some examples? Fine. Ever hear Yo La Tengo on the radio? Dinosaur Jr.? Modest Mouse, before "Float On"? Sigur Ros?  431571[/snapback] Where You Been is one of my favorite albums of all time. Coach- I have over 2000 cds, twices as many LPs, 3 turntables, I even have 8 tracks. I am quite familiar with Yo La Tengo and Modest Mouse. If silly lyrics = bad music- what about Come Together by the Beatles? How about Heebie Jeebies by Louie Armstrong? For me I could care less if the lyrics are any good if I like the beat. I get into this argument with a few musician friends of mine. They discount music if the musicianship is not complicated. I always state "who gives a sh-- if its complicated?". Some of the greatest songs ever written were simple but catchy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 Where You Been is one of my favorite albums of all time. Coach- I have over 2000 cds, twices as many LPs, 3 turntables, I even have 8 tracks. I am quite familiar with Yo La Tengo and Modest Mouse. If silly lyrics = bad music- what about Come Together by the Beatles? How about Heebie Jeebies by Louie Armstrong? For me I could care less if the lyrics are any good if I like the beat. I get into this argument with a few musician friends of mine. They discount music if the musicianship is not complicated. I always state "who gives a sh-- if its complicated?". Some of the greatest songs ever written were simple but catchy 431578[/snapback]  Well I agree with everything you said - except that none of the other bands you listed "try as hard" as Coldplay to look, act and sound like emo rock stars. There is something just plain pathetic about the show they're putting on, and yes it does interfere with my ability to enjoy the music. Also, music doesn't have to be "complicated" per se, but it does need to have some lyrical and/or melodical nuances to be interesting. Coldplay's songs have neither - their melodies really sound the same from song to song, they're either not that talented or don't try very hard, and either way they just don't deserve the promotion and attention they've received. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawnboy1977 Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 Yeah, because Coldplay isn't popular at all... Â 429141[/snapback] Just because a band is popul;ar doesnt mean they are good. Backstreet Boys were popular, Britney Spears is popular, Good Charlotte is popular, shoudl I name more examples? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawnboy1977 Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 I know you're exagerrating but three of the year's best albums (Coldplay "X&Y", Green Day "American Idiot" and White Stripes "Get Behind Me Satan") could not possibly be any more different.  Now as far as bands like Hoobastank, Good Charlotte, Default and the gawd-awful Trapt go, or any of the other crap they play on the Edge ad nauseum, I'm not sure I could tell you the difference. 429218[/snapback]  No but Coldplay and EVERY SINGLE BRITISH BAND THAT HAS FOLLOWED THEM SOUNDS THE SAME!!  American idiot is the best rock album to have come out since Pearl Jam's Ten! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 Hmm... well maybe he could write a song apologizing to her for the embarassment she'll have to suffer at school with everyone knowing her dad's a Cheezedick. I mean look at these clowns:  http://www.alwaysontherun.net/coldplay.htm 431577[/snapback]  From left to right:  Psycho- probably the drummer Angst ridden lead singer Stoner bass player Androgonyous guitarist-gay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBTG81 Posted September 7, 2005 Author Share Posted September 7, 2005 Hmm... well maybe he could write a song apologizing to her for the embarassment she'll have to suffer at school with everyone knowing her dad's a Cheezedick. I mean look at these clowns:  http://www.alwaysontherun.net/coldplay.htm 431577[/snapback]    Well, you did mention Modest Mouse, so that does explain a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavethelimeyLeedsFan Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 Not even in "Clocks?" 429311[/snapback]  Coldplay and Sting??  Never heard that before and personally can't see it, hey but I quite like Coldplay  Great song writing, great songs and emotional music not rivalled in last 5 years...  Saying that the whole music scene of the last 10 years has sucked really so it's not surprising they are one of the most popular Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavethelimeyLeedsFan Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 No but Coldplay and EVERY SINGLE BRITISH BAND THAT HAS FOLLOWED THEM SOUNDS THE SAME!!    Now that confuses me, I'd say Keane are the closest to sounding like them but even that sound is different... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 American idiot is the best rock album to have come out since Pearl Jam's Ten! 431586[/snapback] Â That's friggin hilarious, especially since Green Day ripped of their sound from the Sex Pistols. Friggin hypocrite, you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 From left to right: Psycho- probably the drummer Angst ridden lead singer Stoner bass player Androgonyous guitarist-gay? 431635[/snapback]  Why are bass players always wacked out stoners? I've played in a few bands in my time and it's usually: "that bass player is tight, but man is he wacked in the head." And no, not all drummers are psychos. Jeezus. And if you mention that again I'm coming over to your house and jam my drumstick so far up your arse it will tickle your tonsils!  Rock on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinandjokin Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 I'm not the biggest fan, but Coldplay must be a decent band if they can polarize people enough to warrant 70+ posts on the topic.  Those of you who like Coldplay- Enjoy Those of you who dislike them- Enjoy something else  No sense arguing about it in a message board. They're a band, not everyone is going to like their music. But posting why you're view is right and the other side is wrong is useless. Besides, you're taking space away from those who want to post the classic all-time music rant: "Everything on the radio sounds the same!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavethelimeyLeedsFan Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 Besides... Â Everything on the radio sounds the same! Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â *dons limey jacket and goes back over pond with rocket in ass* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBTG81 Posted September 10, 2005 Author Share Posted September 10, 2005 That's friggin hilarious, especially since Green Day ripped of their sound from the Sex Pistols. Friggin hypocrite, you. 432081[/snapback] Â Todd, I can't agree with you more. Â May I remind everyone of the album "Dookie"? Â Enough said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBTG81 Posted September 24, 2005 Author Share Posted September 24, 2005 http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=3167Â scroll down to middle of page 429844[/snapback] Â Ignorance. Â The song "Fix You" is actually about Gwenyth. Chris wrote it to her, after her dad passed away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdavedombrowski Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 i think coldplay is a great group and believe me im not gay. i am manshow (jimmy kimmel ..adam corolla)man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillyeddie Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 Forget Coldplay, I mean they're as good a Radiohead/Jeff Buckley sounding offspring as any band, but their opener Rilo Kiley, now there's one amazing band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 Forget Coldplay, I mean they're as good a Radiohead/Jeff Buckley sounding offspring as any band, but their opener Rilo Kiley, now there's one amazing band. 452174[/snapback] Â Ok, kill this thread, we've come full circle with this gayfest. Thanks Ed for reviving this piece of crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBTG81 Posted September 24, 2005 Author Share Posted September 24, 2005 Ok, kill this thread, we've come full circle with this gayfest. Thanks Ed for reviving this piece of crap. 452175[/snapback]    Awwwwww, poor Jimmy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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