So why was Diggs traded, again?

[SCBills]

1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

LMAO - He is not near Diggs prime level, geezus thats so over the top.  Diggs was a legit top 3 WR for his first few years here.  Waddle is a WR2 not even a WR1.  

 

He would have been by the best WR on this team no doubt right now, and he would have helped this group.  BUT this is just over the top to claim he is better than Diggs was.  Literally no one in the NFL would say that either.  And his value is not as high as Diggs was either.

Diggs was maybe a notch or two above what Waddle is thought of before the trade to Buffalo.  
 

We’ll never know what Waddle could’ve turned into with Allen.  

But I’d agree that Diggs had more of a complete skillset.   Big play ability along with elite route running.  Waddle is more explosive than Diggs ever was but isn’t as polished of a bucket getter. 

 

[Pete]

1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

LMAO - He is not near Diggs prime level, geezus thats so over the top.  Diggs was a legit top 3 WR for his first few years here.  Waddle is a WR2 not even a WR1.  

 

He would have been by the best WR on this team no doubt right now, and he would have helped this group.  BUT this is just over the top to claim he is better than Diggs was.  Literally no one in the NFL would say that either.  And his value is not as high as Diggs was either.

Waddle is not toxic.  And is much more explosive.  At any rate, if Diggs is the best WR in Beanes tenure, who do you think is second best?  Shakir?  Gabe?  Brown?  Very sad.  And if you don’t think Waddle is a #1- have the Bills had a #1 WR not named Diggs in Beanes 9 years?

[GoBills808]

3 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Diggs was maybe a notch or two above what Waddle is thought of before the trade to Buffalo.  
 

We’ll never know what Waddle could’ve turned into with Allen.  

But I’d agree that Diggs had more of a complete skillset.   Big play ability along with elite route running.  Waddle is more explosive than Diggs ever was but isn’t as polished of a bucket getter. 

 

i think the opposite tbh

 

waddle's miami production>diggs minnesota production

[SCBills]

Just now, GoBills808 said:

i think the opposite tbh

 

waddle's miami production>diggs minnesota production

Waddle also plays in an offense that will pass the ball. 
 

Didnt Diggs start wanting out because the Vikings became more run heavy?

 

I don’t think Diggs, pre-trade, is head and shoulders above Waddle.. different players.. but Waddle is also in an Offense that has a competent downfield passing attack. 

[QCity]

1 hour ago, GoBills808 said:

diggs fooled a lot of people tho

 

He sure did.

 

 

[GoBills808]

6 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Waddle also plays in an offense that will pass the ball. 
 

Didnt Diggs start wanting out because the Vikings became more run heavy?

 

I don’t think Diggs, pre-trade, is head and shoulders above Waddle.. different players.. but Waddle is also in an Offense that has a competent downfield passing attack. 

waddle averages 7 targets/game in miami, diggs was at 7.5 in minnesota

[Einstein's Dog]

19 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

he had his goofy mini camp thing while Dorsey was still here, allegedly upset about the season prior. 
 

let’s not re-write history to support a new frustration 

What frustration?

 

And yes, there was a rift between Diggs and his jealousy of Allen prior to J Brady taking over.  Diggs didn't like the FO consulting with Allen.  Diggs wanted to be on the diva level of say D Adams who claimed to be in on the coaching and QB decisions w the Raiders.

 

My theory is the rift grew, not just w Allen but the team, exponentially when Brady took over.  We all saw the lack of effort and Diggs taking himself out.

 

[BullBuchanan]

2 hours ago, FireChans said:

Some would say that was the secret to building a sneaky elite offense

Indeed! Remind me again where we rank in PPG, RYPG, and YPG?

[Alphadawg7]

1 hour ago, GoBills808 said:

Imo waddle would have had a good chance to put up diggs #s in that offense, maybe more

 

Waddle is much more of a threat after the catch, better speed too

 

Not only is Waddle not as talented as Diggs, but this offensive is nothing like Dabolls, no WR under Brady here is going to dominate touches the way Diggs did during his reign here to the same degree.  So no disrespect, but Waddle wasn't going to put up the same numbers nor more.

[GoBills808]

3 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

Not only is Waddle not as talented as Diggs, but this offensive is nothing like Dabolls, no WR under Brady here is going to dominate touches the way Diggs did during his reign here to the same degree.  So no disrespect, but Waddle wasn't going to put up the same numbers nor more.

That's why I said 'in that offense'

 

And I submit waddles Miami productions vs Diggs w Vikings as evidence 

[Alphadawg7]

1 hour ago, Pete said:

Waddle is not toxic.  And is much more explosive.  At any rate, if Diggs is the best WR in Beanes tenure, who do you think is second best?  Shakir?  Gabe?  Brown?  Very sad.  And if you don’t think Waddle is a #1- have the Bills had a #1 WR not named Diggs in Beanes 9 years?

 

Diggs wasn't toxic either, until the end.  He was a top 3 WR in the NFL, Waddle will never at any point in his career now, the past, or future be considered a top 5 WR in the NFL.  They are not in the same class.  He is a good WR, and I would have been happy to add him and he would be our best WR on the roster, especially down field.  But he is not, never has been, and never will be better than Diggs in his prime.

 

We had Diggs, he was not only our WR1, but one of the best in the entire NFL.  His tenure ended here EARLIER than it was supposed to, 1 year into a big extension.  We had 2 off seasons to replace him, and what legit WR1 was available during that span in the draft?  None.  What legit WR1 was available in FA?  None.  What legit WR1 was available via trade - DK and Pickens, but DK is not a great WR1 and limited, and he is way way over paid.  Pickens had more drama issues than Diggs and his team dumped him too, and he had never played at the level he is playing at now in Dallas before.  So hindsight is at play there, he was off most teams radars for all the same reasons the Steelers dumped him. 

 

But you want to point to guys who never got traded and say thats the guy.  Waddle wasn't traded, no one was willing to pay even what we were offering for Waddle, but you want to claim he was better than Diggs?  And you want to be mad that we didn't over pay.  

 

The thing that irks me is all this pissing and moaning some of you do on this subject while refusing to look at the facts that this magical Diggs replacement was never at any point really there while also ignoring Beane has tried to get one like he again did this trade deadline yet NONE of the guys he went after ever got traded in the first place (Wilson, BTJ, Olave, and Waddle).  

 

Dont get me wrong - my thought is that the entire staff and FO are fired right now and they have 1 shot to get their jobs back and that is win the SB.  If they don't I am on board we need to try something different.  But that also doesn't mean all this baseless ranting about not having another top 5 WR to replace Diggs yet is because we refused to do it when there has literally not been someone there outside overpaying for a a couple of WR2 guys or gambling on what was a total kncuklehead to replace our own knucklehead, which was never going to happen.