There’s something different about McD this season…

[Avisan]

1 hour ago, BillsFan130 said:

I think for a lot of McDermott fans, it would take them not making the playoffs for at least one season,  probably 2. (If someone is a big McDermott supporter, correct me if I'm wrong of course)

 

As the argument is always "it could always be worse and the grass isn't always greener".

No, this seems pretty accurate.  I think barring an injury to Josh, missing the playoffs would be a red flag.

 

And the argument is less "it could always be worse", and more "no seriously guys, it's statistically likely to be worse and we're likely to waste multiple years of Allen's career confirming that it's worse".

[BillsFan130]

1 hour ago, Avisan said:

No, this seems pretty accurate.  I think barring an injury to Josh, missing the playoffs would be a red flag.

 

And the argument is less "it could always be worse", and more "no seriously guys, it's statistically likely to be worse and we're likely to waste multiple years of Allen's career confirming that it's worse".

That's fair as the grass isn't always greener , to your point.

 

But at some point you got to make a change if they don't get to at least a Super Bowl.
 

If you keep McDermott- Imagine wondering , "what if", If the bills never win a Super Bowl and you had Josh Allen at quarterback . That's a tough pill to swallow 

[Nihilarian]

14 hours ago, GoBills808 said:

😂😂What on earth

 

He definitely drafted Peterman 

He definitely threw rookie Allen into the middle a 47-3 week1 ass kicking 

 

Feel free to not have conversations w me, but get your facts straight first. Your argument is nonsense

That first game of the season against the Ravens, the consensus was that Peterman would get the start and Allen, being so raw, would sit out that season. 

 

The game was in Baltimore, and it was also played in heavy rain. Buffalo didn't even have a first down until the 3rd quarter. Alas, Peterman was so horrible in that first half that they threw Allen to the wolves in the second half. This was also the game that veteran CB Vontae Davis retired at halftime.  LeSean McCoy had 7 rushes for 22 yards, 3 targets in the pass game for 1 reception for -1 yards. 

 

In that first half, Peterman went 5 of 18 for 24 yards, 2 INTs. 3 sacks and had a passer rating of 0.0.

 

Allen went 6 of 15 for 74 yards and 3 sacks. Buffalo was so overmatched in that game, it wasn't funny. That first season for Allen, the O-line was crap, as were their WRs; their leading receiver was Zay Jones, along with WR Robert Foster, and WR Kelvin Benjamin.

 

That 2018 season was funky in that the Bills started four different QBs. This was also Brian Daboll's first season as OC. 

QB Josh Allen went 5 of 6 in those games. Allen was injured in week 6 against Houston.

QB Derek Anderson went 0-for-2.

QB Nathan Peterman went 0 for 2.

QB Matt Barkley went 1 and 0.

 

Buffalo finished 6-10.  Just sayin. 

[GoBills808]

Just now, Nihilarian said:

That first game of the season against the Ravens, the consensus was that Peterman would get the start and Allen, being so raw, would sit out that season. 

 

The game was in Baltimore, and it was also played in heavy rain. Buffalo didn't even have a first down until the 3rd quarter. Alas, Peterman was so horrible in that first half that they threw Allen to the wolves in the second half. This was also the game that veteran CB Vontae Davis retired at halftime.  LeSean McCoy had 7 rushes for 22 yards, 3 targets in the pass game for 1 reception for -1 yards. 

 

In that first half, Peterman went 5 of 18 for 24 yards, 2 INTs. 3 sacks and had a passer rating of 0.0.

 

Allen went 6 of 15 for 74 yards and 3 sacks. Buffalo was so overmatched in that game, it wasn't funny. That first season for Allen, the O-line was crap, as were their WRs; their leading receiver was Zay Jones, along with WR Robert Foster, and WR Kelvin Benjamin.

 

That 2018 season was funky in that the Bills started four different QBs. This was also Brian Daboll's first season as OC. 

QB Josh Allen went 5 of 6 in those games. Allen was injured in week 6 against Houston.

QB Derek Anderson went 0-for-2.

QB Nathan Peterman went 0 for 2.

QB Matt Barkley went 1 and 0.

 

Buffalo finished 6-10.  Just sayin. 

yeah i remember

 

it was in response to the guy saying how well we groomed Allen

[GunnerBill]

5 hours ago, BillsFan130 said:

I think for a lot of McDermott fans, it would take them not making the playoffs for at least one season,  probably 2. (If someone is a big McDermott supporter, correct me if I'm wrong of course)

 

As the argument is always "it could always be worse and the grass isn't always greener".

 

I have always been very clear:

 

1. Missing the playoffs barring a major Josh Allen injury;

2. Losing a playoff game to a clearly inferior Quarterback..... that might well get tested this offseason given likely makeup of the playoff field;

3. Any repeat of a 13 seconds level coaching blunder. 

 

I have added a 4th to it this season which is:

 

4. Firing Brandon Beane. I don't think Pegula will but depending on how our season ends I would consider it. And at that point I think you clean house. Bringing in another GM to work with McD when they are likely misaligned is a pretty sure fire way to waste another 2 or 3 seasons before inevitably the coach would be fired anyway. If you fire Beane I don't see an argument for retaining McDermott. 

[Coach Tuesday]

12 minutes ago, Nihilarian said:

That first game of the season against the Ravens, the consensus was that Peterman would get the start and Allen, being so raw, would sit out that season. 

 

The game was in Baltimore, and it was also played in heavy rain. Buffalo didn't even have a first down until the 3rd quarter. Alas, Peterman was so horrible in that first half that they threw Allen to the wolves in the second half. This was also the game that veteran CB Vontae Davis retired at halftime.  LeSean McCoy had 7 rushes for 22 yards, 3 targets in the pass game for 1 reception for -1 yards. 

 

In that first half, Peterman went 5 of 18 for 24 yards, 2 INTs. 3 sacks and had a passer rating of 0.0.

 

Allen went 6 of 15 for 74 yards and 3 sacks. Buffalo was so overmatched in that game, it wasn't funny. That first season for Allen, the O-line was crap, as were their WRs; their leading receiver was Zay Jones, along with WR Robert Foster, and WR Kelvin Benjamin.

 

That 2018 season was funky in that the Bills started four different QBs. This was also Brian Daboll's first season as OC. 

QB Josh Allen went 5 of 6 in those games. Allen was injured in week 6 against Houston.

QB Derek Anderson went 0-for-2.

QB Nathan Peterman went 0 for 2.

QB Matt Barkley went 1 and 0.

 

Buffalo finished 6-10.  Just sayin. 

 

I thought Vontae retired during a home game? 

[GoBills808]

8 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I have always been very clear:

 

1. Missing the playoffs barring a major Josh Allen injury;

2. Losing a playoff game to a clearly inferior Quarterback..... that might well get tested this offseason given likely makeup of the playoff field;

3. Any repeat of a 13 seconds level coaching blunder. 

 

I have added a 4th to it this season which is:

 

4. Firing Brandon Beane. I don't think Pegula will but depending on how our season ends I would consider it. And at that point I think you clean house. Bringing in another GM to work with McD when they are likely misaligned is a pretty sure fire way to waste another 2 or 3 seasons before inevitably the coach would be fired anyway. If you fire Beane I don't see an argument for retaining McDermott. 

correct

 

i know replacing beane has been en vogue lately but there is zero rationale for keeping mcdermott if it comes to pass

[GunnerBill]

7 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

 

I thought Vontae retired during a home game? 

 

Yea Vontae retired week 2 not week 1 was it the Chargers at home? Rings a bell.

[KHAN]

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