Passing of the QB torch?

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

The rarified atmosphere of the Chautauqua highlands (less oxygen) than the Pine Barrens must be affecting the OP's judgment. 🤔

[Simon]

Just now, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

The rarified atmosphere of the Chautauqua highlands (less oxygen) than the Pine Barrens must be affecting the OP's judgment. 🤔

 

This is the same......individual who wanted to trade Josh Allen for the Caleb Williams draft pick 

[Walking Tall]

Allen, the reigning NFL MVP, has passed the torch.

 

Speaking of passing, give me some of that ***** you’re smoking.

[Captain Hindsight]

58 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

Spoken like a man who's never watched Bo Nix play football 

Right? Nix is Tebow with less marketing 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

Just now, Simon said:

 

This is the same......individual who wanted to trade Josh Allen for the Caleb Williams draft pick 

OK, that is more than just oxygen deprivation.  Meth?

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

5 minutes ago, Walking Tall said:

Allen, the reigning NFL MVP, has passed the torch.

 

Speaking of passing, give me some of that ***** you’re smoking.

Its legal in NY

[TheFunPolice]

Unpopular opinion: Lamar Jackson is never going to be the same QB he was, and it's going to go downhill quickly from here 

 

When healthy he's still dangerous, but we see what he looks like when he can't really run. And injuries are starting to pile up. 

 

He's missed a bunch of games in recent years and also has been severely limited for long stretches. 

 

With age this doesn't get better. 

Edited 49 minutes ago by TheFunPolice

[nedboy7]

The narrative that the top 3 QBs are dominating is over.  Thankfully.  

[folz]

It is really hard to stay at the top of your conference for 6+ years (10 for K.C.). There are going to be ups and downs, and dips, even within that stretch, or between two such stretches maybe. It is inevitable due to salary cap, contracts, players aging out, drafting late, other teams getting better, other teams being younger, healthier, hungrier, etc.

 

Yes, there are teams on the rise, but it is foolish to think that the Mahomes, Allen, and Jackson era is over when they are only 28-, 29-, and 30-years old. Most good QBs are productive into their late 30s. There have been 18 NFL QBs to play into their early 40s. These guys all have 10-12 more productive years ahead of them. The talent of the team around them may fluctuate, but they will all still be deep in the hunt most years.

 

And then the next question is can Denver, New England, and Chicago maintain that success for multiple years (as they have to pay their QBs, start drafting later, get FAs poached, have tougher schedules, etc.).

 

As to the QBs themselves, obviously, the young guys will need to prove it in the post-season too (which we have yet to see), but I thought that I would look at the overall stats in comparison, just out of curiosity. Here are the QB stats for each QB's first 25 starts in the league (Williams only has 25 starts thus far, so I used that as the base number for all--even though Nix and Maye have 29 and 28 starts, respectively, to this point).

 

FIRST 25 STARTS IN THE NFL

Player              Total Yards      Total TDs        INTs

Mahomes           8,260                 71                 14

Jackson             6,761                  57                  9

Nix                      6,179                  51                  17

Maye                  6,134                 40                  11

Williams             6,127                  34                  10

Allen                  6,068                 45                  21

 

Caveat for Josh...he was the most raw of those QBs coming into the league and by far came to the worst team (least amount of talent around him). K.C, Baltimore, and Denver were all pretty solid teams when they drafted their QBs. And I venture to say that Chicago and New England both had more talent last year than the 2018 salary-capped purged Bills. But, yeah, statistically the three young QBs have started well. But, let's see if they can continue to grow and produce as circumstances change around them (over a few seasons), before we put them at the same level or ahead of the big three (or four, if you include Burrow).

[Chautauqua Mafia]

31 minutes ago, folz said:

It is really hard to stay at the top of your conference for 6+ years (10 for K.C.). There are going to be ups and downs, and dips, even within that stretch, or between two such stretches maybe. It is inevitable due to salary cap, contracts, players aging out, drafting late, other teams getting better, other teams being younger, healthier, hungrier, etc.

 

Yes, there are teams on the rise, but it is foolish to think that the Mahomes, Allen, and Jackson era is over when they are only 28-, 29-, and 30-years old. Most good QBs are productive into their late 30s. There have been 18 NFL QBs to play into their early 40s. These guys all have 10-12 more productive years ahead of them. The talent of the team around them may fluctuate, but they will all still be deep in the hunt most years.

 

And then the next question is can Denver, New England, and Chicago maintain that success for multiple years (as they have to pay their QBs, start drafting later, get FAs poached, have tougher schedules, etc.).

 

As to the QBs themselves, obviously, the young guys will need to prove it in the post-season too (which we have yet to see), but I thought that I would look at the overall stats in comparison, just out of curiosity. Here are the QB stats for each QB's first 25 starts in the league (Williams only has 25 starts thus far, so I used that as the base number for all--even though Nix and Maye have 29 and 28 starts, respectively, to this point).

 

FIRST 25 STARTS IN THE NFL

Player              Total Yards      Total TDs        INTs

Mahomes           8,260                 71                 14

Jackson             6,761                  57                  9

Nix                      6,179                  51                  17

Maye                  6,134                 40                  11

Williams             6,127                  34                  10

Allen                  6,068                 45                  21

 

Caveat for Josh...he was the most raw of those QBs coming into the league and by far came to the worst team (least amount of talent around him). K.C, Baltimore, and Denver were all pretty solid teams when they drafted their QBs. And I venture to say that Chicago and New England both had more talent last year than the 2018 salary-capped purged Bills. But, yeah, statistically the three young QBs have started well. But, let's see if they can continue to grow and produce as circumstances change around them (over a few seasons), before we put them at the same level or ahead of the big three (or four, if you include Burrow).

Will you look at those numbers!

 

Great reply. Thanks for not dismissing the idea out of hand.