Josh Allen "Most Betrayed" QB in the NFL

[DapperCam]

10 hours ago, US Egg said:

Prescott’s 2nd in this concocted configuration and leads the league in QBR. 🤷‍♂️

Cowboys have one of the worst defenses in the league, so that makes sense.

[Buffalo716]

1 hour ago, TheBrownBear said:

We have up 472 yards to the Colts in that playoff game and didn't force a turnover.  

If I'm Josh, I'm keeping a close eye on Hailee. JK.

 

Dude you can give up 600 yd... Technically... It matters how many you give up point wise..

 

You could give up 575 yards if the other team only scores 24 points at the end of the day... Realistically the only thing that matters is points against ... nd scoring more than that 

 

Obviously your right u want better but that was Philip Rivers last oorah! A borderline HoF QB who was putting everything on the line ... And their offense scored 28 points per game in the regular season... Buffalo Bills held them to less despite the yards 

[PayDaBill$]

They tried to bolster the defense but a few bad paydays, bad breaks, FA and draft fell flat.  Apparently Beane’s not all that!

Edited 3 hours ago by PayDaBill$

[Whitey13]

I'm trying to find one that ended the 2024 regular season but this was the one midway through last year that listed Lamar as the most betrayed QB. It's an interesting way to look at the stats but if people want to use it for MVP discussions etc then have to understand Josh wasn't as betrayed last year as people thought and Lamar really did have a shot at MV3'ing. 

 

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5920003/2024/11/14/lamar-jackson-joe-burrow-justin-herbert/

[Mikie2times]

51 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

 

Dude you can give up 600 yd... Technically... It matters how many you give up point wise..

 

You could give up 575 yards if the other team only scores 24 points at the end of the day... Realistically the only thing that matters is points against ... nd scoring more than that 

 

Obviously your right u want better but that was Philip Rivers last oorah! A borderline HoF QB who was putting everything on the line ... And their offense scored 28 points per game in the regular season... Buffalo Bills held them to less despite the yards 

In 2021, when we allowed 40+ it was Carson Wentz, not Phillip Rivers. The year prior when we played Phillip Rivers in the Wild Card and almost lost, they didn't punt. They had 27 first downs and 472 yards off offense.  I'm pretty sure that was the most first downs allowed in a playoff game in victory. We got some very timely stops. The point is the injury narrative is insanely over played. We have cratered in the postseason defensively like clock work regardless if we led the league in total defense or we completely sucked. We are much closer to the latter at this time.    

[Big Turk]

1 minute ago, Mikie2times said:

In 2021, when we allowed 40+ it was Carson Wentz, not Phillip Rivers. The year prior when we played Phillip Rivers in the Wild Card and almost lost, they didn't punt. They had 27 first downs and 472 yards off offense.  I'm pretty sure that was the most first downs allowed in a playoff game in victory. We got some very timely stops. The point is the injury narrative is insanely over played. We have cratered in the postseason defensively like clock work regardless if we led the league in total defense or we completely sucked. We are much closer to the latter at this time.    

 

Most of that came late tho...the Bills mostly kept them in check until late 3rd quarter and had the game well in hand until they popped a couple big plays.

Edited 2 hours ago by Big Turk

[Buffalo716]

2 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

In 2021, when we allowed 40+ it was Carson Wentz, not Phillip Rivers. The year prior when we played Phillip Rivers in the Wild Card and almost lost, they didn't punt. They had 27 first downs and 472 yards off offense.  I'm pretty sure that was the most first downs allowed in a playoff game in victory. We got some very timely stops. The point is the injury narrative is insanely over played. We have cratered in the postseason defensively like clock work regardless if we led the league in total defense or we completely sucked. We are much closer to the latter at this time.    

That Indianapolis offense was good 

 

It would score points on a lot of teams..

 

The end of the day we held them to 24 in the playoff game I'm talking about... That's the only thing that matters 

 

Sean McDermott is a great football coach.. he's not taking a roster with seven all pros like harbaugh with the Ravens and under producing 

 

This is a roster with one all pro and good football players.. and McDermott can win a football game in the playoffs versus a team with the most all pros in the world

Edited 2 hours ago by Buffalo716

[Mikie2times]

Just now, Buffalo716 said:

That Indianapolis offense was good 

 

It would score points on a lot of teams..

 

The end of the day we held them to 24... That's the only thing that matters 

 

Sean McDermott is a great football coach

No, Sean McDermott is the Coach of the best QB in football. Allen could make your posts seem logical, he's that good. 

2 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Most of that came late tho...the Bills mostly kept them in check until late 3rd quarter and had the game well in hand until they popped a couple big plays.

It was 24-7 at halftime?

[Buffalo716]

19 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

No, Sean McDermott is the Coach of the best QB in football. Allen could make your posts seem logical, he's that good. 

 

 

Dude Patrick mahomes has been scoring 22 points per game The last 2 years 

 

If that was the bills offense everybody would be freaking out.. we scored 28-29 points per game and people lose it 

 

And no Sean McDermott is 100% a top 5-7 coach in the NFL.. there's not 8 coaches better over the last 8 years 

 

He's not good just because Josh Allen.. he would have a job in a millisecond as a head coach if we fired him

 

Josh makes the bills much better he's not taking us from a two-win team to a 13 win team.. we went to the playoffs with tyrod Taylor

Edited 2 hours ago by Buffalo716

[TheBrownBear]

57 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

 

Dude you can give up 600 yd... Technically... It matters how many you give up point wise..

 

You could give up 575 yards if the other team only scores 24 points at the end of the day... Realistically the only thing that matters is points against ... nd scoring more than that 

 

Obviously your right u want better but that was Philip Rivers last oorah! A borderline HoF QB who was putting everything on the line ... And their offense scored 28 points per game in the regular season... Buffalo Bills held them to less despite the yards 

Lol. Go look up actual HOF QBs (say, Marino or Kelly) "last oorahs" and it's telling that the Bills gave up nearly 500 yards to a QB at the very end of his career. I'm not saying McDermott's defense hasn't had its moments in the playoffs over the years (particularly the two wins against Lamar and last year's demolition of Denver), but defending the performance against the Colts is laughable.

[Buffalo716]

59 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said:

Lol. Go look up actual HOF QBs (say, Marino or Kelly) "last oorahs" and it's telling that the Bills gave up nearly 500 yards to a QB at the very end of his career. I'm not saying McDermott's defense hasn't had its moments in the playoffs over the years (particularly the two wins against Lamar and last year's demolition of Denver), but defending the performance against the Colts is laughable.

 

I don't care how many yards they had they had 24 points I'm not talking about it anymore 

 

24 points is not a lot of points to give up in the playoffs.. specially when it's under the team's season average 

 

Sean McDermott would have a job as a head coach instantly if the bills fired him.. he's not holding back a Super bowl champion roster with a bunch of all pros.. he's taking a solid roster and continually having them in Super bowl contention

 

The Ravens had seven all pros last year and we beat them in the playoffs with one all pro.. that takes coaching .. they were a better team... 

 

I don't care what anybody says you're not lucking into beating a team that has severely more skill just because Josh Allen.. because as we've seen this year Josh needs to trust players around him 

 

Or it doesn't look good 

 

So no beating seven All pro Ravens shows McDermott is far from a bum.. because a bum coach would get steamrolled by a team with seven all pros

 

We literally didn't even have 300 yards of offense but won the game... Even in the regular season week 1 versus the Ravens.. harbaugh got tight as the game went along McDermott stayed loose and the bills finished much much stronger... The Ravens got weak down the stretch the bills got stronger

Edited 1 hour ago by Buffalo716

[Mikie2times]

21 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

 

 

Dude Patrick mahomes has been scoring 22 points per game The last 2 years 

 

If that was the bills offense everybody would be freaking out.. we scored 28-29 points per game and people lose it 

 

And no Sean McDermott is 100% a top 5-7 coach in the NFL.. there's not 8 coaches better over the last 8 years 

 

He's not good just because Josh Allen.. he would have a job in a millisecond as a head coach if we fired him

 

Josh makes the bills much better he's not taking us from a two-win team to a 13 win team.. we went to the playoffs with tyrod Taylor

he's taking us from a perennial .500 team to a 13 win team. This doesn't look much different than our meddling drought years without Allen.  

Edited 2 hours ago by Mikie2times

[Buffalo716]

2 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

he's taking us from a perennial .500 team to a 13 win team. This doesn't look much different than our meddling drought years without Allen.  

Sean McDermott doesn't bring in the players 

 

He cooks the meals he does not buy the ingredients 

 

You could never turn chicken s*** into chicken salad.. how he has developed 5th 6th 7th round picks consistently is quite the testimony

Edited 2 hours ago by Buffalo716

[Big Turk]

33 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

No, Sean McDermott is the Coach of the best QB in football. Allen could make your posts seem logical, he's that good. 

It was 24-7 at halftime?

 

It was 17-10 at halftime but 24-10 with 14 mins left in the 4th.

[Mikie2times]

21 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

It was 17-10 at halftime but 24-10 with 14 mins left in the 4th.

Not sure what game we are talking about here. This is the game I have been discussing. That was the year of 13 seconds and our #1 overall defense. 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by Mikie2times

[Big Turk]

3 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

Not sure what game we are talking about here. This is the game I have been discussing. That was the year of 13 seconds and our #1 overall defense. 

 

 

I was talking about the playoff game...that's the one they put up 472 yards in

[Mikie2times]

4 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

I was talking about the playoff game...that's the one they put up 472 yards in

I don't know what the perspective is here? The Colts were up 10-7 and failed to convert a 4th and goal at the end of the half. We go the length of the field, score a TD. Colts miss a 33 yard FG in the 3rd quarter. We take a 14 point 4th quarter lead and still need to get a stop on the final drive to win it. Colts finish with 450+ yards, 25+ first downs. We aren't going to win most of those games. We won that day. How is this an example that our defense can provide support when it matters? 

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

13 hours ago, SCBills said:

Maturing is realizing Brandon Beane is the man we should want fired, not Sean McDermott. 

Beane’s past 2 drafts were pretty solid. Keon Coleman was the worst obviously, but there appears to be some real talented rookie and 2nd year players. Bishop, Walker, Hairston, Hawes, Walker, and others i’m forgetting. 

[SoTier]

15 hours ago, BillsPride12 said:

Im as frustrated as anyone with the way Beane has handled the WR room after trading Diggs but it doesn't sound like they are taking into account Offensive Line. I'm sure Joe Burrow feels betrayed by Cincinnati in that regard 😂

 

No NFL QB has been more betrayed than Burrow in at least the last decade.   Burrow is a pocket passer with a rocket arm and a gunslinger mentality, so the Bungles have sent him out there with 2 great WRs but no OL, no running game, and a phantom defense.   The 2021 and 2022 Bengals showed what could have been with just a decently respectable team around Burrow, but the Bengals don't seem to be particularly interested in building a respectable team, just a FF juggernaut.