What's wrong with Josh?

[ganesh]

1 hour ago, GoBills808 said:

Again- the Giants won because of their defense. They had more receiving talent than us currently, Eli Manning's offensive contributions notwithstanding.

 

Top QB contracts do not preclude their teams from acquiring good wideouts. We just prioritize defense over offense

More importantly, they had a fierce pass rush

[Avisan]

18 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Got to sit down and watch the game tonight-- on this play Allen is no longer looking downfield after like 1.5s and the defense is in zone w/ a man on Coleman.    The DL has both pressure and contain on Allen so the secondary doesn't have to worry about the possibility of Allen running, and Allen isn't able to get anywhere close to a viable throwing position so none of the receivers are able to slip into the open.  No clue what you would expect receivers to do on this one, the play is already broken by the time they would be coming out of their breaks etc. and everyone is moving accordingly.

[Brand J]

30 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

I don’t know where Moore’s head was at on his route, but there was a very quick window there to hit him with a pass. That said, can’t expect Allen to find that minuscule moment on plays like this. The defense won this one with a good call and sticky coverage, Allen was better off throwing it away. It’s not always this bleak though.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

17 minutes ago, Avisan said:

Got to sit down and watch the game tonight-- on this play Allen is no longer looking downfield after like 1.5s and the defense is in zone w/ a man on Coleman.    The DL has both pressure and contain on Allen so the secondary doesn't have to worry about the possibility of Allen running, and Allen isn't able to get anywhere close to a viable throwing position so none of the receivers are able to slip into the open.  No clue what you would expect receivers to do on this one, the play is already broken by the time they would be coming out of their breaks etc. and everyone is moving accordingly.

Yea like I get that overall point but the panthers did a ton of things right on this specific play.  Once Josh rolls left the safety can play middle of the field knowing Josh is under heavy pressure and has no time to throw it back to the right so you’ve essentially got 5 defenders on 3 receivers and the back of the end zone as an extra deep defender while Josh is running for his life 

 

I think Josh thought he’d have a shot at Kincaid but Mike Jackson got to break on kincaid’s route because there was no way Josh was getting that ball to Moore under that much pressure moving to his left 

Edited 4 hours ago by Generic_Bills_Fan

[Shortchaz]

2 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

We spent $40M AAV on Rousseau, Bernard, and Palmer so it doesn't exactly take a lot of imagination to work out the rest.

Knox, Oliver, Samual contracts are also poor ROI 

[thewookie1]

1 hour ago, Brand J said:

I don’t know where Moore’s head was at on his route, but there was a very quick window there to hit him with a pass. That said, can’t expect Allen to find that minuscule moment on plays like this. The defense won this one with a good call and sticky coverage, Allen was better off throwing it away. It’s not always this bleak though.

 

I don't see a realistic opening at all until after Allen has already been lasso'd by his shirt. Until 2 has got to Kinkaid's depth, Moore is still in a borderline unreachable spot without high risk for interception.