Doc Brown Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 8 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Yes, that is ridiculous. But you also must see the irony in saying "that wasnt mcDermott's fault. Blame the Defense" regardless I got that but it gets a little cloudy because McDermott has a defensive background but isn't calling the defense. His job is to look at the game situation and decide when to challenge, use time outs, go for it on 4th down, FG, punt, etc..... In this case I guess he had faith in the players and Babbich to get a stop on 3rd down which they had been pretty good at up to that point in the game. New England had all their time outs left and were going to score regardless if they executed. He was just trying to give the offense a chance to put up points before the half. Quote
Simon Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 1 minute ago, Yobogoya! said: I do appreciate the assertiveness of wanting the ball to score points again before the half, but you've got to wait until you've got a couple stops. This. I didn't hate that he did it, but I thought he should have at least waited until after the first down play to get a better idea of where they were at. Quote
ControllerOfPlanetX Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago This is just McD playing one dimensional chess. Quote
Thurman#1 Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 1 hour ago, Robert Paulson said: It seems like he used our timeouts instead of making NE use theirs. We weren't going to 3 N Out them and get the ball back with a minute left. he would have knelt down if we did anyways. We helped them get into field goal position to kick the tying points. is their a rational I am missing? Would've worked out if they'd stopped them there. The first two made sense, but they made the first down. I assume that the one after that came because in some way we needed it to communicate or Sean saw something he didn't like. That third one didn't make sense in terms of trying to get us another chance. Quote
Bob Chandler's Hands Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago He needed to get them to 2nd down and long or 3rd down to start calling Time outs. Once they got the first down after the first time out, stop calling them and make NE call theirs. If you happen to get a takeaway, great, you still have two timeouts. If there is a big negative play, great, then call a timeout. Otherwise make them go fast and use their timeouts. 1 Quote
Thurman#1 Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, djp14150 said: You can’t make mistakes. It came down to…. 1. first quarter fumble, thry couldn’t do something in recovery. 2. FG gift fumble 3. Allen red zone INT 4 missed KO fumble recovery defense blew a few plays on 3rd down and that 1st and 25 series Also, third and three at the Pats ten. Zone read to Ty Johnson, Allen keeps the ball, which was the wrong read. Ty Johnson would probably have scored. Allen almost always makes the right decision there. He didn't that time. (Thanks to Joe Marino for these two.) Yeesh!! That was the play he was stopped and flipped to Shakir for the loss. Plus Shakir's offensive pass interference call that changed it from third and one to second and 13 inside the Pats 10. Man! Plus, eleven fricking penalties enforced. Eleven!!!! Awful. Edited 15 hours ago by Thurman#1 1 Quote
Pecker Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago They were taking these timeouts at 45 seconds remaining. And we didn’t have enough to stop the clock after third down. We at most would have 20 seconds, then the kickoff. Which is basically what we saw at the end of the game. He even took our last TO after they got a first down!!! We weren’t getting the ball back after that. We couldn’t stop the clock, they had 3 more downs, and there was 30 seconds left maybe? it was horrible and gave them 2-3-4 extra shots at the end zone. I understand the idea, try to save time for your offense, that works with 2 mins left. but there comes a point where there’s not enough time for your offense, so make it harder on theirs McD! 1 Quote
Bermuda Triangle Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 14 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: Oh cool, good to know our 3rd down issues that have plagued us through 4.5 games are over. The Patriots didn’t even have to convert a single 3rd down on either of their TD drives. Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, Bermuda Triangle said: The Patriots didn’t even have to convert a single 3rd down on either of their TD drives. Oh right. 1st and 25 > 2nd and 15 > First down Classic McBabich 1 Quote
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