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2 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Your experiences in Cuba, and opinions on same, immediately disqualify you as any arbiter of 'freedom of speech'.  

 

 

I'm sitting across from a famous poster by a Cuban artist (Ares):  s-l1600.jpgWe met him in his studio and I quizzed him on censorship. He had plenty of art critical of the Cuban government. We also met some dissidents.  I asked if they might be imprisoned for their work and they said it was unlikely but possible.  I guess kinda like here, see Bolton, John and Comey, James. 

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3 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

I'm sitting across from a famous poster by a Cuban artist (Ares):  s-l1600.jpgWe met him in his studio and I quizzed him on censorship. He had plenty of art critical of the Cuban government. We also met some dissidents.  I asked if they might be imprisoned for their work and they said it was unlikely but possible.  I guess kinda like here, see Bolton, John and Comey, James. 

Trump, Donald.
 

As for Ares, I suppose it’s possible that happened.   I see he’s got some significant accolades but geesh, from a creative perspective, looks like he sorta mailed this one in.  Was there only one format Obama approved of?  Looks like Ares took the HOPE poster, changed the solemn look and gave him a smile and a Cuban general’s tunic.

 

 

 

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11 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Trump, Donald.
 

As for Ares, I suppose it’s possible that happened.   I see he’s got some significant accolades but geesh, from a creative perspective, looks like he sorta mailed this one in.  Was there only one format Obama approved of?  Looks like Ares took the HOPE poster, changed the solemn look and gave him a smile and a Cuban general’s tunic.

 

 

 

iit's not about Ares, although a guy who worked as an inpatient psychiatrist before concentrating on art is pretty unusual and interesting.

It's about freedom of speech and risk of persecution.  It may be that Cuba is worse on this issue than America.  It may be the opposite.  I saw a small sample of activists who didn't seem fearful.  But it's clear that under trump, freedom of speech  is under attack.  Why would any American support that?

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25 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

It may be that Cuba is worse on this issue than America.  It may be the opposite.

2025 democrat in a nutshell. Sigh. 

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1 hour ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

iit's not about Ares, although a guy who worked as an inpatient psychiatrist before concentrating on art is pretty unusual and interesting.

It's about freedom of speech and risk of persecution.  It may be that Cuba is worse on this issue than America.  It may be the opposite.  I saw a small sample of activists who didn't seem fearful.  But it's clear that under trump, freedom of speech  is under attack.  Why would any American support that?

Under attack, for example, from government collusion with and coercing of social media platforms to censor views and opinions deemed critical of the regime? What you're glossing over is the fact Democrats under the Biden administration threw the first punch in the effort to suppress free of speech. Add in deploying street goons to inflict violence on those participating in protests and events where the exercise of free speech is attacked and you've got all that authoritarian crap the liberal cult complains about. 

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1 hour ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

iit's not about Ares, although a guy who worked as an inpatient psychiatrist before concentrating on art is pretty unusual and interesting.

It's about freedom of speech and risk of persecution.  It may be that Cuba is worse on this issue than America.  It may be the opposite.  I saw a small sample of activists who didn't seem fearful.  But it's clear that under trump, freedom of speech  is under attack.  Why would any American support that?

Very interesting, though I'm not sure you named-dropped him, shared a picture of his poster if you didn't want to involve him in the dialogue.  

 

I can't speak to why you feel the way you do about Cuba v. America.  I haven't visited Cuba, have no plans to, and don't see it as a flip of the coin sort of thing.  I do think, though, that some Americans do not like dissenting voices and prefer freedom of speech only when viewed through the prism of imagined elitism---I think that describes you and explains why you see things the way you do. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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41 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

Under attack, for example, from government collusion with and coercing of social media platforms to censor views and opinions deemed critical of the regime? What you're glossing over is the fact Democrats under the Biden administration threw the first punch in the effort to suppress free of speech. Add in deploying street goons to inflict violence on those participating in protests and events where the exercise of free speech is attacked and you've got all that authoritarian crap the liberal cult complains about. 

Let’s assume that all your complaints against D’s are justified. Does that justify the current regimes actions?

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19 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Thanks to Trump, I watched Seth Meyers this morning.

Not bad!

A little repetitive with the Trump jokes, but a couple good ones. Trump will make me a fan.

There’s nothing he can’t make your sort do. Impressive!

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16 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

There’s nothing he can’t make your sort do. Impressive!

Hey, there's nothing that boosts viewership more than a Trump effort to censor. Tells me and my ilk that I must be missing something good.

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1 minute ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Hey, there's nothing that boosts viewership more than a Trump effort to censor. Tells me and my ilk that I must be missing something good.

This, of course, is where the joke is on you and your ilk. 

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Just now, SectionC3 said:

Quiet, piggy.  Don’t you have an anus to ponder?  

With this pithy response you have captured the whole essence of PPP. Bravo!

 

v/r

AM

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3 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Why don't I deserve a 4th grade nickname? 

Feeling lesser than.

You do and you are, but will have to take it up with C-section. Let me know if I can be of further assistance. 

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11 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Why don't I deserve a 4th grade nickname? 

Feeling lesser than.

 

 

Your 2nd grade responses ?

 

0:)

Posted
23 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

With this pithy response you have captured the whole essence of PPP. Bravo!

 

v/r

AM

so lonely!  maybe a nap?

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Seth made a good point that's somehow been lost on the media, both mainstream and alt.

Trump is now supporting a vote that will compel him to release Epstein files, something he ALREADY COULD DO.

"Please force me to do it"

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11 minutes ago, teef said:

so lonely!  maybe a nap?

Do you remember yesterday when you were whining “I wasn’t talking to you”? That was something you don’t see much here. 

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