WGR Discussing McD's job security

[Royale with Cheese]

1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said:

John elway didn't win his super bowls till his last 2 years... He was way way over his prime 

 

31 other franchises every year are saying why wasn't it us... Whether it happens in 7 months or in 2 years I believe Josh will get it done

 

You must believe in magic.

[RoscoeParrish]

2 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

Brady won a super bowl when he was a 42-year-old man after getting coached by the greatest of all time for 20 years lol 

 

At that point it didn't mean much 

 

Peyton Manning went to four super bowls with four different head coaches.. that's tough to do

How much does McD’s coaching mean for Allen now at year 8

Edited August 11 by RoscoeParrish

[Mikie2times]

3 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

John elway didn't win his super bowls till his last 2 years... He was way way over his prime 

 

31 other franchises every year are saying why wasn't it us... Whether it happens in 7 months or in 2 years I believe Josh will get it done

He went to 4 Super Bowls prior. He won with an entirely new regime. Not a ringing endorsement.  

3 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

You must believe in magic.

or logic

[Gregg]

3 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

John elway didn't win his super bowls till his last 2 years... He was way way over his prime 

 

31 other franchises every year are saying why wasn't it us... Whether it happens in 7 months or in 2 years I believe Josh will get it done

 

Depends on if the Bills defense has improved. The offense will be fine and Allen is a special player but as we have seen over the years he can't get the Bills to Super Bowl by himself. It doesn't matter how well he plays. The defense needs to do their part otherwise nothing will change. 

[Buffalo716]

3 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

He went to 4 Super Bowls prior. He won with an entirely new regime. Not a ringing endorsement.  

And Andy Reid didn't win a super bowl in over a decade with Philadelphia 

 

He always had the tag of not clutch can't coach in the big game 

 

But that seems silly now... Sean McDermott is better than some head coaches who have won super bowls

 

It takes as much luck as team talent to win it all

6 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

You must believe in magic.

 

I

7 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

You must believe in magic.

I BILLieve 

Edited August 11 by Buffalo716

[Mikie2times]

5 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

And Andy Reid didn't win a super bowl in over a decade with Philadelphia 

 

He always had the tag of not clutch can't coach in the big game 

 

But that seems silly now... Sean McDermott is better than some head coaches who have won super bowls

 

It takes as much luck as team talent to win it all

 

I

I BILLieve 

Eagles won shortly after he left. He didn't win until Mahomes. If Allen isn't McD's Mahomes, who is? 

[Buffalo716]

Just now, Mikie2times said:

Eagles won shortly after he left. He didn't win until Mahomes. If Allen isn't McD's Mahomes, who is? 

Again it takes as much luck as skill to win a super bowl 

 

The Giants backed in with nine wins, and then had a miracle playoff run with a helmet catch...

 

The Chiefs have had plenty plenty plenty of breaks over the last four plus years 

 

Tom Brady had the tuck rule 

 

The Buffalo Bills got wide right 

 

Literally everything needs to come together to win a super bowl.. it's so hard I'd almost be willing to bet Patrick mahomes never wins one more

[Royale with Cheese]

4 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

 or logic

 

You think it's logical to say a team that is favored to win every game, if they win the Super Bowl it would be one "an all time magic acts in sports history"

So on par with like the 1969 Mets? lol

 

Be a writer and sell that script.

 

Producer: So this is a story of a team that was supposed to be the laughing stock of the league and wins it all?  Kinda like Mighty Ducks?

Writer: No.  This team was supposed to be great and they ended up winning it.

Producer: Hard Pass.

[T.E.]

26 minutes ago, HamptonBillsfan said:

Sean’s ass should be on the hot seat. He’s a big culture guy that isn’t building a culture by lamenting Cook not playing in the preseason game before getting extended. Benford, who’s been extended, criticized Cook as well. He should tell Beane, get my AllPro back signed before the next game or risk losing him for the Ravens opener. With a new stadium coming next season, why would they play hardball with a great back who’s 25 years old. All the other players in their walk year have been resigned. Sean does not have the resume to survive a down year plus he’s a defensive coach with arguably the best QB in football.  Not saying a defensive minded coach can’t win a SB, but his defense stunk last year, unable to pressure the QB or stop great running attacks.

They're playing hardball with Cook because they don't value the offense at all. He's the only elitish weapon that Allen has, but they're willing to lose him because they don't mind making things more arduous for Allen. The defense always takes precedence.

 

That why Cook hasn't been extended but guys who dissappear for weeks at a time like Oliver and Rousseau both immediately got extensions.

[Mikie2times]

6 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

You think it's logical to say a team that is favored to win every game, if they win the Super Bowl it would be one "an all time magic acts in sports history"

So on par with like the 1969 Mets? lol

 

Be a writer and sell that script.

 

Producer: So this is a story of a team that was supposed to be the laughing stock of the league and wins it all?  Kinda like Mighty Ducks?

Writer: No.  This team was supposed to be great and they ended up winning it.

Producer: Hard Pass.

The magic act isn't winning a Super Bowl, its convincing people of a level of competency that is higher than it actually is as a result of Josh. That people like you will die on the hill for as years pass, our window closes,  and your comments age like old cheese in the sun. We can come back for a whiff in a few years. It's not like we haven't done that already. 

8 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Again it takes as much luck as skill to win a super bowl 

 

The Giants backed in with nine wins, and then had a miracle playoff run with a helmet catch...

 

The Chiefs have had plenty plenty plenty of breaks over the last four plus years 

 

Tom Brady had the tuck rule 

 

The Buffalo Bills got wide right 

 

Literally everything needs to come together to win a super bowl.. it's so hard I'd almost be willing to bet Patrick mahomes never wins one more

People can give examples of anything. The Chiefs have been to 7 straight AFC championships. Won multiple Super Bowls. It feels more like they make the luck themselves.   

Edited August 11 by Mikie2times

[Buffalo716]

6 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

The magic act isn't winning a Super Bowl, its convincing people of a level of competency that is higher than it actually is as a result of Josh. That people like you will die on the hill for as years pass, our window closes,  and your comments age like old cheese in the sun. We can come back for a whiff in a few years. It's not like we haven't done that already. 

People can give examples of anything. The Chiefs have been to 7 straight AFC championships. Won multiple Super Bowls. It feels more like they make the luck themselves.   

 

No , their luck is because they get the majority of calls in big spots... 11 straight playoff games with less penalties than their opponents... They get the better spots then their opponents

 

Hello Josh Allen converted his QB sneak just for the side judge to Mark the ball a yard backwards.. they've been getting that for years 

 

That's their luck lmao

Edited August 11 by Buffalo716

[Mikie2times]

Just now, Buffalo716 said:

 

No , their luck is because they get the majority of calls in big spots... They get the better spots 

 

 

[Buffalo716]

Just now, Mikie2times said:

So you don't think that Josh Allen's spot was terribly egregious?

 

All I need to know lol this isn't about the refs cheating to help the Chiefs win 

 

It's that in the biggest moment they got a great spot in the bills got hosed

[Royale with Cheese]

8 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

The magic act isn't winning a Super Bowl, its convincing people of a level of competency that is higher than it actually is as a result of Josh. That people like you will die on the hill for as years pass, our window closes,  and your comments age like old cheese in the sun. We can come back for a whiff in a few years. It's not

 

WOW lol.  

 

Please show me on one of these dolls where Sean McDermott and Brandon Beane touched you.

 

[HamptonBillsfan]

6 minutes ago, T.E. said:

They're playing hardball with Cook because they don't value the offense at all. He's the only elitish weapon that Allen has, but they're willing to lose him because they don't mind making things more arduous for Allen. The defense always takes precedence.

 

That why Cook hasn't been extended but guys who dissappear for weeks at a time like Oliver and Rousseau both immediately got extensions.

It’s starting to look like what you’re describing. Shakir got extended, but they paid him like a slot as opposed to an elite wideout. So Josh gets $60 million and any other productive weapon on offense,gets squeezed or traded. Can you believe, with the state of the art showplace stadium on the horizon, they would operate like this?

[Lost]

They should do a Hard Knocks series about the fans at TBD 😂

[Mikie2times]

4 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

So you don't think that Josh Allen's spot was terribly egregious?

 

All I need to know lol this isn't about the refs cheating to help the Chiefs win 

 

It's that in the biggest moment they got a great spot in the bills got hosed

1. The Bills should have been better than that play call

2. The game should have never come down to that

3. It hardly explains prolonged postseason success that we haven't been able to achieve. 

 

3 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

WOW lol.  

 

Please show me on one of these dolls where Sean McDermott and Brandon Beane touched you.

 

People have been getting misplaced credit since the beginning of time. Nothing new here. They're both above average at what they do.  Not irreplaceable by any stretch as some make them out to be. Meanwhile what was a potential dynasty is falling to the wayside defended by the fear of the playoff drought. 

[GoBills808]

10 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

1. The Bills should have been better than that play call

2. The game should have never come down to that

3. It hardly explains prolonged postseason success that we haven't been able to achieve. 

 

People have been getting misplaced credit since the beginning of time. Nothing new here. They're both above average at what they do.  Not irreplaceable by any stretch as some make them out to be. Meanwhile what was a potential dynasty is falling to the wayside defended by the fear of the playoff drought. 

so this is the part i don't understand about people who are so adamant about not changing things

 

i mean...we still get Bills football w Allen at QB. it's still going to be a great show. it's very unlikely we are suddenly terrible, esp considering the rest of the division

[RoscoeParrish]

21 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

so this is the part i don't understand about people who are so adamant about not changing things

 

i mean...we still get Bills football w Allen at QB. it's still going to be a great show. it's very unlikely we are suddenly terrible, esp considering the rest of the division

I think lots of folks think the difference between the drought and the Bills annual march to 11+ wins is in large part due to Sean McDermott and Brandon Beane.

[Buffalo Boy]

1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said:

John elway didn't win his super bowls till his last 2 years... He was way way over his prime 

 

31 other franchises every year are saying why wasn't it us... Whether it happens in 7 months or in 2 years I believe Josh will get it done

   Yeah, but Elway got TO the SB by carrying his team a bunch of times.