ISRAEL V IRAN: Trump just warned everyone should evacuate Tehran

[ComradeKayAdams]

5 hours ago, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said:

What exactly is Israel's end game here? To drag the US into their war, I guess. The Iranian regime is horrible, but air attacks won't create regime change. Not sure how this one ends 

 

Tibsy?! You look…different.

 

Yes, Israel absolutely wants the U.S. involved with regime change in Iran. They want us to eventually do most of the legwork for them. Once the Iranian theocracy’s regional influence is dismantled, Israel can more easily move toward their Greater Israel plans that include, at minimum, ethnic cleansing in Gaza and the annexation of the West Bank.

 

4 hours ago, LeviF said:

This will be such an unforced error by the Trump admin.  All they had to do was ignore the middle east, tell Netandyoohoo to ***** himself, and deport 50 million people. Trying not to doompoast but it's getting hard not to.

 

It's the gaslighting from our "greatest ally" (who has never committed boots on the ground to any of our wars) every time. Not sure what it is about boomers that makes them so susceptible to this propaganda in particular.

 

I don’t know exactly what’s wrong with the Boomers on this topic, but I do know that they grew up at a time when Israel was a much more politically reasonable country. Since the Likud Party formed in the 1970’s, it has been a gradual descent into far-right nationalism that really accelerated after the Second Intifada. First and earliest impressions are hard to shake.

 

I’m sure I could whip up a delightfully caustic hypothesis from Bruce Cannon Gibney’s book, “A Generation of Sociopaths: How the Baby Boomers Betrayed America.” However…I do now sort of regret picking on the Boomers (and the middle-agers). I suspect other factors are much more strongly in play that transcend biological age: Islamophobia, the inevitable dehumanization process resulting from settler colonialism, the particulars of one’s news media diet, etc…

 

3 hours ago, Mikie2times said:

I'm a 43 year old, left leaning Trump hater. I'm not buying what Benji is selling, but the Iranian regime, as I said, is among the worst in the world. I feel for those people and know a ton of them who have come here, most with family still in Tehran, and yet they still support what is happening from Israel after watching their freedoms reduced to something out of the Middle Ages under this regime.

 

It is true that the future without Khamenei is uncertain, but it is just as true that the future with him is too. I don't trust Israel, but if these actions can help give those people a chance, then I'm hopeful something good can come from this.

 

I also genuinely do not think Israel has any interest in attacking energy assets that would impact the global system. They have little support for this war as it is, and doing so would all but eliminate it. If you think that is the case, so be it.

 

“So be it,” indeed, because I don’t see much evidence lately suggesting Israel cares that much about international opinion. As long as the United States allows them to operate with impunity, they’re perfectly content with whatever war crimes their darkened hearts desire. Israel is ALREADY attacking Iran’s fossil fuel energy infrastructure with the obvious objective of significantly harming Iran. If these continued attacks happen to impact the global fossil fuel economy as well, then Israel will simply scream “anti-Semites!” or “Hamas!” or something.

 

I think everyone here wants to see regime change in Iran. I’m just not personally a fan of the U.S. (or Israel) using its military might to make it happen. I’d rather see the Iranians do it completely on their own. I would lift all international economic sanctions on Iran and cultivate a more diplomatic relationship with everyone there. This would then hopefully elevate the country’s standard of living, empower Iran’s intelligentsia, and embolden its working class based on the principles of Maslow’s hierarchy of needs. Political revolutions come in many different flavors. Why not buck the American trend from the past 75 years and try it my way??

[Trump_is_Mentally_fit]

1 hour ago, SectionC3 said:

Ultimately I think it ends with Israeli incursion and limited boots on ground to take care of the mountain nuke site.  In the meantime they’re going to keep destroying infrastructure needed to repel such an incursion, and take the chance to turkey shoot what they can with a weakened historical nemesis. 

That would be an operation for the ages. With air superiority it would have a chance but I'd guess the Iranians are pretty well dug in and ready for something of that nature...or maybe not. Regimes like these tend to be stupid, so who knows. Lifting an entire division (or something along those lines)  by air transport and an all out assault on the mountain, with air support cutting off any Iranian reinforcements. Wow, that would be ballsy 

Just now, ComradeKayAdams said:

 

Tibsy?! You look…different.

 

Yes, Israel absolutely wants the U.S. involved with regime change in Iran. They want us to eventually do most of the legwork for them. Once the Iranian theocracy’s regional influence is dismantled, Israel can more easily move toward their Greater Israel plans that include, at minimum, ethnic cleansing in Gaza and the annexation of the West Bank.

 

And BINGO was her name-o. I can't see Trump being stupid enough to commit ground forces, but Bibi will try 

[njbuff]

2 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

He’s the President lmao why wouldn’t we care about his actions?

 

This is where “TDS” falls apart. It’s not unusual for people to question what the President is doing, especially when he campaigned on world peace. 

If you were speaking from a position of honesty, I could buy this.

 

But none of you are interested in honesty, so your words mean Jack shyt.

[Roundybout]

2 minutes ago, njbuff said:

If you were speaking from a position of honesty, I could buy this.

 

But none of you are interested in honesty, so your words mean Jack shyt.

Try me 

[CoudyBills]

On 6/11/2025 at 3:42 PM, Big Blitz said:

 

T's & P's 😂😂😂

1 hour ago, Roundybout said:

Try me 

You're as honest as a wet fart.

[Trump_is_Mentally_fit]

24 minutes ago, CoudyBills said:

T's & P's 😂😂😂

You're as honest as a wet fart.

Wet farts don't lie, bro 

[ScotSHO]

2 minutes ago, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said:

Wet farts don't lie, bro 

But you can never trust em.

[Trump_is_Mentally_fit]

1 minute ago, ScotSHO said:

But you can never trust em.

Well, it's never good to go out in public with one

[Doc]

2 hours ago, Roundybout said:

The President of Peace, everyone! 

 

Which war will be worse: this or Russia-Ukraine?

[ScotSHO]

2 minutes ago, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said:

Well, it's never good to go out in public with one

It DEPENDS. 😁

[njbuff]

2 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Which war will be worse: this or Russia-Ukraine?

Doesn’t matter, Trump caused them both. 😁

[Trump_is_Mentally_fit]

6 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Which war will be worse: this or Russia-Ukraine?

DEPENDS on how  you define "worse"? 

[Doc]

10 minutes ago, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said:

DEPENDS on how  you define "worse"? 

 

How would you define it?

[Trump_is_Mentally_fit]

9 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

How would you define it?

You brought it, so you define it 

[nedboy7]

 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

2 hours ago, ComradeKayAdams said:

 

I don’t know exactly what’s wrong with the Boomers on this topic, but I do know that they grew up at a time when Israel was a much more politically reasonable country. Since the Likud Party formed in the 1970’s, it has been a gradual descent into far-right nationalism that really accelerated after the Second Intifada. First and earliest impressions are hard to shake.

 

I’m sure I could whip up a delightfully caustic hypothesis from Bruce Cannon Gibney’s book, “A Generation of Sociopaths: How the Baby Boomers Betrayed America.” However…I do now sort of regret picking on the Boomers (and the middle-agers). I suspect other factors are much more strongly in play that transcend biological age: Islamophobia, the inevitable dehumanization process resulting from settler colonialism, the particulars of one’s news media diet, etc…

Sounds like you have it figured out---it seems obvious the generations that followed the boomers figured out racism, sexism, xenophobia, and treating life at every level with kindness, decency and respect.  Maybe not so great on arrogance, but everything else is buttoned up for reals. 

[JDHillFan]

On 6/13/2025 at 7:34 AM, Niagara Bill said:

This is not about armies it is about weapons.

 

I guess that’s good news for the world. 
 

 

[Roundybout]

 

 

 

The real ending to the Sopranos?

[Trump_is_Mentally_fit]

Is Israel Losing This War?

[Doc]

2 hours ago, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said:

You brought it, so you define it 

 

More death?  More destruction? 

 

Was that hard?