Max Hairston injury

[GroteStreet]

2 hours ago, Augie said:

 

Hyperbole much? 

Yes.  half joking.  I am new to this board and still learning to be very careful with what I write.

[Augie]

16 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

LOL, you’re the best, 

 

It’s amusing for a while, but I’ve enjoyed the ignore feature since I’ve started weeding out the trash. 

[HamptonBillsfan]

20 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

He doesn't. He had one allegation when he was 18 years old and no charges were ever filed. Besides that he's known to be a great teammate, high energy, studious with a strong work ethic. You're seeing red because he suffered a non contact knee injury. Even if he hadn't it's week 6 of his NFL career. Let it play out.

Why are you minimizing a rape charge and burglary. If it was someone you knew would you be so cavalier? They opened up the rape investigation federally this year again . The original offense was in 2021. Rich athletes are able to bury this stuff.

[Allen2Moulds]

33 minutes ago, HamptonBillsfan said:

He’s slight, he’s brittle and he’s got character issues, which Sean and Beane used to care about. Contact me when he hits the field. Until then could we acquire someone to play next to Benford before the deadline.

I've been as critical as anyone about Beane's day 1 and day 2 picks, not named Josh Allen, but I think it's way too early to jump on him about Hairston. I think you're stretching the facts a little to justify your displeasure about the pick.

 

He did have the 1 allegation against him, but by all accounts, it appeared to be bogus.  Let's not forget about punt god, and how quickly we moved on from him, and that all that kid did, was be at the wrong college party at the wrong time. I'm not saying that athletes don't do wrong, plenty of them are *hit heads, but they are also easy targets at times. That being said, lets stick to football.

 

Ok, you mentioned he wasn't a willing tackler and were concerned about his slight frame.  I think being concerned about his slight frame is valid, but there are a lot of good corners in the league with a slight frame. Heck, the greatest CB of all-time was Deon Sanders.  I don't know if you can get slighter than him. It's a risk you sometimes have to take with that particular position.

 

About his tackling.  There were multiple draft analysis that said that the kid had no problem putting his nose in there, but that his tackling did suffer a bit, while he was playing through that shoulder injury he suffered. I think we all forget that Josh Allen missed almost a whole season, with what I think was a broken collarbone. Frank Gore had 2-3 ACL tears in college and was an iron man in the NFL.  Unless it's a degenerative condition, I wouldn't spend too much effort trying to predict that stuff. 

 

Watching Tre getting tourched on Sundays is miserable, especially knowing all that has been invested in the position, but lets give this kid an opportunity to prove himself, once he gets back.  I just hope McDermott is willing to live with some early mistakes in exchange for the upside he brings.  That's what I doubt most at this point. 

[Augie]

18 minutes ago, HamptonBillsfan said:

Why are you minimizing a rape charge and burglary. If it was someone you knew would you be so cavalier? They opened up the rape investigation federally this year again . The original offense was in 2021. Rich athletes are able to bury this stuff.

 

Why are you pretending to know more than the professional law enforcement officers and the Bills research team regarding these allegations? Were you there? How many of these people have you personally interviewed? How would you like it if your brother was unfairly accused? There are two sides to almost everything, but you tend to ignore what doesn’t fit your narrative.

 

In 2021 Max Hairston was just a middling college prospect, not a rich athlete. 

 

I don’t know what happened, but I know enough to trust professional  people who have actual knowledge and facts before someone who is angry on the internet. 

 

 

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Edited 2 hours ago by Augie

[HappyDays]

18 minutes ago, HamptonBillsfan said:

They opened up the rape investigation federally this year again .

 

This is the second time you've brought up something that didn't happen.

[HamptonBillsfan]

29 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

Why are you pretending to know more than the professional law enforcement officers and the Bills research team regarding these allegations? Were you there? How many of these people have you personally interviewed? How would you like it if your brother was unfairly accused? There are two sides to almost everything, but you tend to ignore what doesn’t fit your narrative.

 

In 2021 Max Hairston was just a middling college prospect, not a rich athlete. 

 

I don’t know what happened, but I know enough to trust professional  people who have actual knowledge and facts before someone who is angry on the internet. 

 

 

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Like I said, we’re talking about this in the context of Hairston not being worth a precious 1st round pick. Trust professional people like defense attorneys? They think justice is getting people off and getting paid.I don’t need to know anything about the case, as a fan I didn’t like the pick in April before I knew Hairston’s legal history. He was slight, soft against the run and had one good season in 2023 and missed most of 2024. Factor in his legal troubles, he wasn’t worth the pick. You’re ignoring what the victim said and trusting the guys that told Beane to make the pick. They  could be working on the staff of a division 2 college now. How many people do you think they interviewed? They said the girl didn’t bring charges, just draft him. He runs a 4.2 forty.

 

[HamptonBillsfan]

51 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

This is the second time you've brought up something that didn't happen.

Just Google Hairston’s legal history. July 2nd ,Rape chargesi were filed along with harassment charges after she was forced to drop out of Kentucky. 

[HamptonBillsfan]

1 hour ago, Allen2Moulds said:

I've been as critical as anyone about Beane's day 1 and day 2 picks, not named Josh Allen, but I think it's way too early to jump on him about Hairston. I think you're stretching the facts a little to justify your displeasure about the pick.

 

He did have the 1 allegation against him, but by all accounts, it appeared to be bogus.  Let's not forget about punt god, and how quickly we moved on from him, and that all that kid did, was be at the wrong college party at the wrong time. I'm not saying that athletes don't do wrong, plenty of them are *hit heads, but they are also easy targets at times. That being said, lets stick to football.

 

Ok, you mentioned he wasn't a willing tackler and were concerned about his slight frame.  I think being concerned about his slight frame is valid, but there are a lot of good corners in the league with a slight frame. Heck, the greatest CB of all-time was Deon Sanders.  I don't know if you can get slighter than him. It's a risk you sometimes have to take with that particular position.

 

About his tackling.  There were multiple draft analysis that said that the kid had no problem putting his nose in there, but that his tackling did suffer a bit, while he was playing through that shoulder injury he suffered. I think we all forget that Josh Allen missed almost a whole season, with what I think was a broken collarbone. Frank Gore had 2-3 ACL tears in college and was an iron man in the NFL.  Unless it's a degenerative condition, I wouldn't spend too much effort trying to predict that stuff. 

 

Watching Tre getting tourched on Sundays is miserable, especially knowing all that has been invested in the position, but lets give this kid an opportunity to prove himself, once he gets back.  I just hope McDermott is willing to live with some early mistakes in exchange for the upside he brings.  That's what I doubt most at this point. 

Alright, your instincts are righteous in supporting the kid while he recovers from a serious injury. I’m hoping he turns out to be a good player just like all fans, just frustrating that all the corners drafted can’t get on the field anytime soon.

[HappyDays]

14 minutes ago, HamptonBillsfan said:

July 2nd ,Rape chargesi were filed

 

Nope. Try again.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

19 minutes ago, HamptonBillsfan said:

Just Google Hairston’s legal history. July 2nd ,Rape chargesi were filed along with harassment charges after she was forced to drop out of Kentucky. 

Charges were never filed…police investigated and elected not to bring charges. The 2nd was the date the accusers legal team filed a civil suit 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by Generic_Bills_Fan

[HamptonBillsfan]

2 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Charges were never filed…police investigated and elected not to bring charges. The 2nd was the date the accusers legal team filed a civil suit 

That’s right, there also was a burglary investigation on him.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

22 minutes ago, HamptonBillsfan said:

That’s right, there also was a burglary investigation on him.

They were investigating two possible counts from that one event I’m pretty sure…i don’t think they were separate events.  I’d guess they investigated him for breaking into the room on top of the SA.  Burglary is unlawful entry with intent to commit a crime but the crime doesn’t have to be theft 

[ColoradoBills]

57 minutes ago, HamptonBillsfan said:

That’s right, there also was a burglary investigation on him.

 

I'm going to sleep better knowing you are on the case.

[HamptonBillsfan]

2 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

I'm going to sleep better knowing you are on the case.

Thank you, your passive aggressive sarcasm could have been expressed more effectively with a vomit emoji. 

37 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

They were investigating two possible counts from that one event I’m pretty sure…i don’t think they were separate events.  I’d guess they investigated him for breaking into the room on top of the SA.  Burglary is unlawful entry with intent to commit a crime but the crime doesn’t have to be theft 

Appreciate the clarification.