Los Angeles under military attack

[SectionC3]

56 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

That's very definitive from an important source.  But the NG is only authorized, by law, to offer support.  The definition of that is of maximum importance

Exactly.  This is exactly right.  What the rioters are doing is BS.  But this is an LAPD/mutual aid/CHP/Cali state response area.  They deal, until they can’t, and then governor asks for outside help if necessary.  At that point NG comes in and assists as permitted by law.  

[Homelander]

9 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

So you believe an image of two guys taking down an American flag is equivalent to video of groups of rioters waving Mexican and other national flags while parading around celebrating the burning American flags? 

 

Oh sure, both are bad but save the performative outrage when your friends literally pissed in the Capitol, smeared ***** on the walls, and replaced the American flag with a Trump one. Just save it.

 

 

 

[AlBUNDY4TDS]

4 minutes ago, Homelander said:

 

Oh sure, both are bad but save the performative outrage when your friends literally pissed in the Capitol, smeared ***** on the walls, and replaced the American flag with a Trump one. Just save it.

 

 

 

Lmao Jan 6.

 

Loser.

[JDHillFan]

1 hour ago, joshypoo said:

Local groups are confirming no raids were able to take place yesterday, the protests are working…keep burning and fighting…make them take that first shot and it’s ON!

 

only good ICE agent is a <redacted> ICE agent.

I’m sorry for whatever happened to you that made you this way. Best wishes. 

[SCBills]

3 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

I’m sorry for whatever happened to you that made you this way. Best wishes. 

Theres a not-insignificant portion of the American public that simply votes in a way to make sure people like that poster never get power.  
 

Im thankful for that.  

[Orlando Buffalo]

40 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

TDS.  Nice.   A usual fallback when you don’t know what you’re talking about.  What law, exactly, are you talking about here?  And aren’t those challenges (14A) typical conducted as equal protection exercises in the courts?  And, on top of that, you still have this little “powers not reserved problem” to get around. 

 

Also, your spelling sucks.  It’s “raping.”  Not “rapeing.”  

Powers not reserved means not spelled out. It is spelled out therefore the 10th is not applicable, I thought you were a lawyer? At this point we don't have time to go through a court, so I disagree. As for TDS, I want you to stop and think of why you are defending foreign nationals violently attacking American citizens? Or is setting fires not violence to you? 

[SectionC3]

2 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said:

Powers not reserved means not spelled out. It is spelled out therefore the 10th is not applicable, I thought you were a lawyer? At this point we don't have time to go through a court, so I disagree. As for TDS, I want you to stop and think of why you are defending foreign nationals violently attacking American citizens? Or is setting fires not violence to you? 

Gaslighting.  I’m not defending anything other than common sense and law.  Powers not reserved delegates anything not enumerated  as a federal power to the states.  Like policing. Maybe when you pass that spelling class you can turn your lonely eyes to con law.  

1 hour ago, joshypoo said:

Local groups are confirming no raids were able to take place yesterday, the protests are working…keep burning and fighting…make them take that first shot and it’s ON!

 

only good ICE agent is a <redacted> ICE agent.

No.  This is wrong.  There is nothing wrong with ICE.  These guys are following orders.  This is not the way to disagree with LEO tactics. 

[BillsFanNC]

Now you know where the thread title came from.

 

 

[SectionC3]

23 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Theres a not-insignificant portion of the American public that simply votes in a way to make sure people like that poster never get power.  
 

Im thankful for that.  

I don’t disagree. Trump is a blowhard do nothing corrupt fool.  But there are those who vote for him because they think (wrongly, in my view) the alternative might be worse.  

[Mikie2times]

2 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

I don't know if we need the Marines, but would think probably not.  However, the attacks seems well-coordinated and violent, which implies to me a certain degree of sophistication and funding.  I couldn't say whether intelligence suggests greater violence on the horizon.   With respect to National Guard, well, it seems the LAPD was unwilling to assist, the governor and mayor has made their feelings clear on the attempt to enforce the law, so deploying the NG makes sense.  

 

The rioters are wrong, great, we agree. I would think the onus would be on the state to deal with rioters, violent extremists, and stay out of the way of federal law enforcement activities.  I don't think that's happening, so the federal government needs to provide support for federal law enforcement activities. 

 

I would also hazard a guess to say that those directly impacted by the rioters, insurrectionists and fomenters of violence would willingly accept the assistance of the federal government as the state plays politics on the sideline and not give a **** what that looked like.  All they likely see is the time, effort and money put into building their lives, homes and businesses treated as fodder for extremists and at the whim of government officials unwilling to apply the law.  

 

In that regard, btw, the locals would not be unlike the liberal politicians huddled behind walls  and people with guns and a willingness to use them on 1/6.  Given the choice to dispatch the 1/6 rioters with extreme prejudice, bring in the National Guard, the Marine Corp, the First Infantry Division and any and all in-between, they would have chosen to do so to protect themselves regardless of rules, laws and regulations. 

Based on what? They started off in a crappy suburb of LA. They were pocketed small groups all over LA county. Have you ever been to LA? You realize how spread out that city is? 

[RiotAct]

1 hour ago, joshypoo said:

Local groups are confirming no raids were able to take place yesterday, the protests are working…keep burning and fighting…make them take that first shot and it’s ON!

 

only good ICE agent is a <redacted> ICE agent.

holy shlit dude

[Mikie2times]

5 minutes ago, RiotAct said:

holy shlit dude

10 post troll 

[JDHillFan]

4 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

I don’t disagree. Trump is a blowhard do nothing corrupt fool.  But there are those who vote for him because they think (wrongly, in my view) the alternative might be worse.  

Obviously enough of those people in every swing state and enough around the country to win the popular vote. An election you described as him “winning by the thinnest of margins”. No coping in that claim! 
 

Your party is so out of touch that they lost to a blowhard do-nothing, corrupt fool. TWICE.

 

I noticed you cracking on someone’s spelling earlier. Your punctuation sucks. Sometimes it happens.

[SectionC3]

3 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

Obviously enough of those people in every swing state and enough around the country to win the popular vote. An election you described as him “winning by the thinnest of margins”. No coping in that claim! 
 

Your party is so out of touch that they lost to a blowhard do-nothing, corrupt fool. TWICE.

 

I noticed you cracking on someone’s spelling earlier. Your punctuation sucks. Sometimes it happens.

The margin was and is thin.  We also beat the clown pretty convincingly once, unlike establishment Republicans.  And, when we lost,  we didn’t raid the Capitol and make up conspiracy theories to cope.  
 

You missed a comma as well, FYI.  Right after blowhard.  The “they” in that sentence also should be “it.”  And

you want to abolish the DOE. 

[JDHillFan]

2 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

The margin was and is thin.

According to you, “the thinnest”. You made more sense when you claimed that Joe Biden was conducting a master class in foreign policy. Master. Class.

[Orlando Buffalo]

25 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

Gaslighting.  I’m not defending anything other than common sense and law.  Powers not reserved delegates anything not enumerated  as a federal power to the states.  Like policing. Maybe when you pass that spelling class you can turn your lonely eyes to con law.  

Thank you for repeating back to me what I wrote and then adding something that is not relevant. The state is denying people the privileges of being a US citizen, therefore the federal government is required to step in according to the 14th amendment.

[ScotSHO]

17 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

You missed a comma as well, FYI.  Right after blowhard.  The “they” in that sentence also should be “it.”  And

you want to abolish the DOE. 

 

You can't make this stuff up.  DOE stands for DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY.  If you wanted the DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION, it is officially abbreviated ED.

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

35 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

Based on what? They started off in a crappy suburb of LA. They were pocketed small groups all over LA county. Have you ever been to LA? You realize how spread out that city is? 

Yes, I've been to Los Angeles though it's been quite a number of years.  For whatever that's worth, I've never been to Washington, DC and feel pretty confident I know what happened there. 

 

As for coordination and violence, which part do you disagree with?  That they were coordinated, or violent?  I think the violence is pretty evident and was going off the assumption that spontaneous rioters typically don't have professional grade fireworks at hand, and multiple incidents occurring in the same way at the same time across a geographic area seems unlikely to be a random occurence. 

 

Be that as it may, let's assume that spontaneous riots occur in multiple sections of the city over a several day period, and said rioters happen upon unmanned gasoline containers with bottles, rags, and matchbooks conveniently nearby.  Not far away, a random truck drives by and drops a pallet of Mexican flags nearby, and just around the corner, a black market illegal professional grade fireworks shop is left unattended whilst the proprietor goes to grab himself a latte from Starbucks. 

 

Rioters be rioting, and if the local authorities are overmatched, overwhelmed or apathetic to the needs of federal law enforcement agencies, the obvious answer seems to be to bring in protection from another source.  

 

 

 

 

[Mikie2times]

1 minute ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Yes, I've been to Los Angeles though it's been quite a number of years.  For whatever that's worth, I've never been to Washington, DC and feel pretty confident I know what happened there. 

 

As for coordination and violence, which part do you disagree with?  That they were coordinated, or violent?  I think the violence is pretty evident and was going off the assumption that spontaneous rioters typically don't have professional grade fireworks at hand, and multiple incidents occurring in the same way at the same time across a geographic area seems unlikely to be a random occurence. 

 

Be that as it may, let's assume that spontaneous riots occur in multiple sections of the city over a several day period, and said rioters happen upon unmanned gasoline containers with bottles, rags, and matchbooks conveniently nearby.  Not far away, a random truck drives by and drops a pallet of Mexican flags nearby, and just around the corner, a black market illegal professional grade fireworks shop is left unattended whilst the proprietor goes to grab himself a latte from Starbucks. 

 

Rioters be rioting, and if the local authorities are overmatched, overwhelmed or apathetic to the needs of federal law enforcement agencies, the obvious answer seems to be to bring in protection from another source.  

 

 

 

 

So conclusion is either the people rioting can talk with other people they know who also want to participate OR that it's strategically planned and well financed. 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

5 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

So conclusion is either the people rioting can talk with other people they know who also want to participate OR that it's strategically planned and well financed. 

 

That might be your conclusion, it isn't mine. I shared my conclusion at the end of my last post.

 

Your question was fair, and it seems you've come to the conclusion that there was no coordination and everything happened spontaneously.   That's possible.