Pete Rose, Shoeless Joe Jackson among others reinstated by MLB

[That's No Moon]

On 5/13/2025 at 5:37 PM, Fleezoid said:

I think it's about time. Heck, the way gambling punishments are going, particularly in NFL, pretty soon most gambling infractions will simply be a fine. 

Pretty soon we will be able to gamble on who is gambling

[Royale with Cheese]

Since baseball isn't a contact sport, I honestly say let them roid up.  The game would be more exciting with regular 100 mph fastballs and 500 foot homeruns. 

Not to mention the speed on the basepaths and canons from the outfield.  I've known two guys who roided and they both said it makes a huge difference and you feel it quick.

Just wanted to throw my $.02

 

If Rose did truly cheat, I was okay with the banning.

 

Shoeless Joe, I mean a solid argument can be made he didn't cheat himself.  He had a great World Series.

Edited yesterday at 12:56 PM by Royale with Cheese

[The Jokeman]

16 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

Since baseball isn't a contact sport, I honestly say let them roid up.  The game would be more exciting with regular 100 mph fastballs and 500 foot homeruns. 

Not to mention the speed on the basepaths and canons from the outfield.  I've known two guys who roided and they both said it makes a huge difference and you feel it quick.

Just wanted to throw my $.02

 

If Rose did truly cheat, I was okay with the banning.

 

Shoeless Joe, I mean a solid argument can be made he didn't cheat himself.  He had a great World Series.

I grew up with my favorite player was Rickey Henderson who proved that you can be dangerous with small ball. Sorry to think his records would fall to some roided up snot nose kid would anger me to no end. 

[Royale with Cheese]

6 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

I grew up with my favorite player was Rickey Henderson who proved that you can be dangerous with small ball. Sorry to think his records would fall to some roided up snot nose kid would anger me to no end. 

 

In some way, there has always been cheating in baseball.  Between scuffed balls, tipping pitches, corked bats and even steroids.

 

"The article appeared in the San Francisco Chronicle and then was picked up by USA Today in 2005 where former MLB pitcher Tom House is quoted extensively about his use of steroids back in the 1960s and 1970s.  House, probably best known for catching Hank Aaron's 715th record breaking home run ball in 1974 as it flew into the bullpen, admits steroids were big in baseball even 40 to 50 years ago."

 

"I pretty much popped everything cold turkey.  We were doing steroids they wouldn't give to horses. That was the '60s, when nobody knew. The good thing is, we know now. There's a lot more research and understanding."

-"We didn't get beat, we got out-milligrammed, and when you found out what they were taking, you started taking them."

 

"I'd like to say we were smart, but we didn't know what was going on.  We were at the tail end of a generation that wasn't afraid to ingest anything. As research showed up, guys stopped."

-House also estimated that six or seven players on each team were at least experimenting with steroids.  House said players talked often about losing to opponents using more effective drugs.

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/detroit/news/does-this-prove-that-hank-aaron-was-juicing/

 

Hank Aaron also admitted many players in his era, 1950-1970 used "greenies" which is an amphetamine.  

[Fr. Jerk]

I don't gamble cause I was named after homeboy, ya dig? 

[SinceThe70s]

14 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

In some way, there has always been cheating in baseball.  Between scuffed balls, tipping pitches, corked bats and even steroids.

 

"The article appeared in the San Francisco Chronicle and then was picked up by USA Today in 2005 where former MLB pitcher Tom House is quoted extensively about his use of steroids back in the 1960s and 1970s.  House, probably best known for catching Hank Aaron's 715th record breaking home run ball in 1974 as it flew into the bullpen, admits steroids were big in baseball even 40 to 50 years ago."

 

"I pretty much popped everything cold turkey.  We were doing steroids they wouldn't give to horses. That was the '60s, when nobody knew. The good thing is, we know now. There's a lot more research and understanding."

-"We didn't get beat, we got out-milligrammed, and when you found out what they were taking, you started taking them."

 

"I'd like to say we were smart, but we didn't know what was going on.  We were at the tail end of a generation that wasn't afraid to ingest anything. As research showed up, guys stopped."

-House also estimated that six or seven players on each team were at least experimenting with steroids.  House said players talked often about losing to opponents using more effective drugs.

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/detroit/news/does-this-prove-that-hank-aaron-was-juicing/

 

Hank Aaron also admitted many players in his era, 1950-1970 used "greenies" which is an amphetamine.  

 

Comparing your Tom House quote "As research showed up, guys stopped"  with the likes of baseballs steroid era guys is disingenuous to me. Is that what you think happened with the likes of Bonds, Clemens, et. al?

 

Fun fact: Tom House had a nice career as a MLB pitcher but went on to coach throwing including to a number of NFL QB's. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_House

[Max Fischer]

May Pete rot in hell. 

[US Egg]

13 minutes ago, Max Fischer said:

May Pete rot in hell. 

I’ll tell him you said ‘Hey’…..just give me a while.