Trump voter remorse.

[SCBills]

45 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

Sure😀.  I saw a black racer serpent swimming off the dock this am.  didn't get a pic. I  was going to go swimming.  perhaps not.

They say the lake is haunted.  They displaced a large black community to build it and moved many graves.

Theres remnants of the town on the lake floor. 
 

Someone dies in Lake Lanier 2-3 times per Summer. 
 

Theres some cool restaurants you can dock at on the lake, along with Jimmy Buffett’s island, but on the weekends it’s insanely crowded.

 

The area around Lake Lanier is about as MAGA as it gets. 

This is also where they filmed Ozarks. 

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

30 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Theres remnants of the town on the lake floor. 
 

Someone dies in Lake Lanier 2-3 times per Summer. 
 

Theres some cool restaurants you can dock at on the lake, along with Jimmy Buffett’s island, but on the weekends it’s insanely crowded.

 

The area around Lake Lanier is about as MAGA as it gets. 

This is also where they filmed Ozarks. 

 

yup. It's very pretty.  I think many of these are second homes from folks from Atlanta.  Town seems dark red.

[Doc Brown]

6 hours ago, Doc said:

It's less the bolded and more that he's starting to accomplish what he set out to do.  There's still more work to be done.

I think they have a nebulous end goal in mind but don't know how to achieve it without freaking out the markets.  Their messaging and execution sucks.  Trump just warned Wal Mart not to raise their prices because of the tariffs.  That's like someone warning a car insurance company not to raise my rates despite two at fault car accidents in the same year.

[SCBills]

1 minute ago, Doc Brown said:

I think they have a nebulous end goal in mind but don't know how to achieve it without freaking out the markets.  Their messaging and execution sucks.  Trump just warned Wal Mart not to raise their prices because of the tariffs.  That's like someone warning a car insurance company not to raise my rates despite two at fault car accidents in the same year.

We should honestly just accept that we cannot win a trade war with China unless the leader who takes them on is willing to destroy his/her political party for 1-2 election cycles.

 

We can hit them with mutually assured destruction and maybe get a few concessions, which is hopefully what Trump can get as China was clearly struggling more than we are with this trade war.. but Xi can far more easily manipulate their economic factors and wait it out. 
 

Trump has a a year before any fallout starts affecting the midterms and Powell at the Fed unwilling to budge. 
 

We’re just not set up, with our election cycles, to truly take on China in any meaningful way.  Trump is trying, but it was always going to be chaotic and risky. 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

24 minutes ago, SCBills said:

We should honestly just accept that we cannot win a trade war with China unless the leader who takes them on is willing to destroy his/her political party for 1-2 election cycles.

 

We can hit them with mutually assured destruction and maybe get a few concessions, which is hopefully what Trump can get as China was clearly struggling more than we are with this trade war.. but Xi can far more easily manipulate their economic factors and wait it out. 
 

Trump has a a year before any fallout starts affecting the midterms and Powell at the Fed unwilling to budge. 
 

We’re just not set up, with our election cycles, to truly take on China in any meaningful way.  Trump is trying, but it was always going to be chaotic and risky. 

and counterproductive...

[Doc Brown]

41 minutes ago, SCBills said:

We should honestly just accept that we cannot win a trade war with China unless the leader who takes them on is willing to destroy his/her political party for 1-2 election cycles.

 

We can hit them with mutually assured destruction and maybe get a few concessions, which is hopefully what Trump can get as China was clearly struggling more than we are with this trade war.. but Xi can far more easily manipulate their economic factors and wait it out. 
 

Trump has a a year before any fallout starts affecting the midterms and Powell at the Fed unwilling to budge. 
 

We’re just not set up, with our election cycles, to truly take on China in any meaningful way.  Trump is trying, but it was always going to be chaotic and risky. 

I agree that you'd pry need a three term president with a majority in both houses throughout.  However, to your point about China with Trump.  You think he'd welcome Apple moving its manufacturing plants out of China to India.  Instead he publicly chastises Apple telling them they should build here.  He seems to want to have his cake and eat it too.

[JDHillFan]

Probably not Trump voters to begin with but the tide is clearly turning when Springsteen and Vedder speak out. 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻

[nedboy7]

Some humor. 
 

 

[K D]

6 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

Probably not Trump voters to begin with but the tide is clearly turning when Springsteen and Vedder speak out. 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻

Oh no. Who is next? Cher? Shut up and entertain us clowns

[Joe Ferguson forever]

2 hours ago, K D said:

Oh no. Who is next? Cher? Shut up and entertain us clowns

you lost close to 20% on Tesla. are you not entertained?  bread and circuses.  and maga's are the clowns

 

 

Edited yesterday at 01:19 AM by Joe Ferguson forever

[K D]

14 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

you lost close to 20% on Tesla. are you not entertained?  bread and circuses.  and maga's are the clowns

 

 

I did? I bought Tesla in 2017 lol 😂 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

2 minutes ago, K D said:

I did? I bought Tesla in 2017 lol 😂 

cool.  so you've only lost 20% of its value in the last 4 months.  Be joyful!

 

This is such a cool song.  Not sure why they didn't play it at the wedding.  I'm guessing Georgia...

 

Edited yesterday at 01:34 AM by Joe Ferguson forever

[Joe Ferguson forever]

another great song not played.  Still a great wedding.  I think they'll be happy.

 

 

[K D]

7 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

cool.  so you've only lost 20% of its value in the last 4 months.  Be joyful!

 

This is such a cool song.  Not sure why they didn't play it at the wedding.  I'm guessing Georgia...

 

That's not how it works. If you buy it and it goes up 20% and then it goes down 5% you aren't down 5% you are up 15%. There was a Trump bump in stocks in Nov because everyone was excited when he got elected so everything went up to unrealistic amounts and so then they came back down to earth a little as markets correct themselves and then went back up. Still way way up compared to when the corpse was in office. 

[Doc]

18 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

I think they have a nebulous end goal in mind but don't know how to achieve it without freaking out the markets.  Their messaging and execution sucks.  Trump just warned Wal Mart not to raise their prices because of the tariffs.  That's like someone warning a car insurance company not to raise my rates despite two at fault car accidents in the same year.

 

I think it's less nebulous in that they want equal tariffs.  Until they get there, the markets will be spooked but will eventually recover, if not surpass where they were.

 

18 hours ago, SCBills said:

We should honestly just accept that we cannot win a trade war with China unless the leader who takes them on is willing to destroy his/her political party for 1-2 election cycles.

 

We can hit them with mutually assured destruction and maybe get a few concessions, which is hopefully what Trump can get as China was clearly struggling more than we are with this trade war.. but Xi can far more easily manipulate their economic factors and wait it out. 
 

Trump has a a year before any fallout starts affecting the midterms and Powell at the Fed unwilling to budge. 
 

We’re just not set up, with our election cycles, to truly take on China in any meaningful way.  Trump is trying, but it was always going to be chaotic and risky. 

 

I'm not sure it will take that long.  China backing down on their tariffs was a sign that the tariff war isn't going well for them either.  The difference between the 2 countries is we know how they've affected the US whereas China restricts information from getting out.

 

2 hours ago, K D said:

That's not how it works. If you buy it and it goes up 20% and then it goes down 5% you aren't down 5% you are up 15%. There was a Trump bump in stocks in Nov because everyone was excited when he got elected so everything went up to unrealistic amounts and so then they came back down to earth a little as markets correct themselves and then went back up. Still way way up compared to when the corpse was in office. 

 

Yeah, if you bought Tesla in 2017 (like I did), you're still probably up 20X.  A 20% drop isn't anything to be concerned over.

[nedboy7]

I should have bought the dip but I didn't realize the White House would actually engage in insider trading.  I did time the market well and ended up with a 10% gain however.  That was stressful. 

[Motorin']

5 hours ago, K D said:

That's not how it works. If you buy it and it goes up 20% and then it goes down 5% you aren't down 5% you are up 15%. There was a Trump bump in stocks in Nov because everyone was excited when he got elected so everything went up to unrealistic amounts and so then they came back down to earth a little as markets correct themselves and then went back up. Still way way up compared to when the corpse was in office. 

 

No no no, the bump in the market post election had nothing to do with the fact that Donald Trump won. It was the market's way of giving a referendum and thanks to Joe Biden's presidency. 

 

 

Edited 19 hours ago by Motorin'

[4th&long]

5 hours ago, K D said:

That's not how it works. If you buy it and it goes up 20% and then it goes down 5% you aren't down 5% you are up 15%. There was a Trump bump in stocks in Nov because everyone was excited when he got elected so everything went up to unrealistic amounts and so then they came back down to earth a little as markets correct themselves and then went back up. Still way way up compared to when the corpse was in office. 

It's done sliding? Someone just dumped $600 million yesterday. Plenty of time for it to drop still. 

Edited 19 hours ago by 4th&long

[aristocrat]

13 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

cool.  so you've only lost 20% of its value in the last 4 months.  Be joyful!

 

This is such a cool song.  Not sure why they didn't play it at the wedding.  I'm guessing Georgia...

 

let’s say he invested 10k in 2017. At the height he’d be at about 180k. Right now he’s in the 165k range give or take. 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

6 hours ago, K D said:

Still way way up compared to when the corpse was in office.

nope.  Tesla was 90 in Jan 2021.  it was 408 (its highest level ever) in Jan 2025.  Almost all of your gains happened during the Biden years.  You're down 20% since trump took office from that high.  rationalize it however you want.  those are facts.  Learn to read a graph.  Someone holding the stock would likely be aware this without even looking up the history.