The_Real Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Is it even possible? I know I am getting WAAAAAAAAAY ahead of myself and I am not saying that he will. Yet, just out of curiousity what would he or any other qb have to do to pass Jim Kelly in your mind as the best ever in a Bills uniform? Statistically jimbo threw for 35,000 yard with 237 tds. I'm pretty sure everyone knows all this but I'm just putting it out there. What would he have to do? 50,000 Yards and two superbowls? 300 tds? Open a succesful bar downtown? Just having some fun. Can it be done? T-R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeRay Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 What would JP (or any other Bills QB) have to do to pass Jim Kelly in my mind? God this is going to keep me up all night. Hmmmm... let me see.,,, uh, geez, perhaps break Kelly's records? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Simple: win a ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyBall4Buffalo Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Have consistent level of success(winning seasons/playoff wins) over the course of his career as a buffalo bill, and at least 2 superbowl rings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Real Posted June 27, 2005 Author Share Posted June 27, 2005 Simple: win a ring. 368393[/snapback] So if Bledsoe would have won a ring he'd of surpassed jimbo in your mind? Or Rob Johnson? Don't you think who Jimbo was in the community made him the that much more popular? The guy would go out and throw for 300 and 3 td's then you'd see him drinking at bar downtown that night. t-r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BF_in_Indiana Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Simple: win a ring. 368393[/snapback] Yep, Kelly will ALWAYS be referred to as the greatest QB in team history until someone comes along and wins a ring. Jim did everything else you could do plus some (no other QB has played in 4 Super Bowls in a row, and won't ever again). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweet baboo Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 just win the Super Bowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brihs2005 Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 I would keep us in the playoff for a stretch of 5 years or so... Win a Bowl and in that game he has to win it with his arm for the fans to say he is the best bills QB ever. Otherwise he will be thanked, but not revered like kelly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin in Va Beach Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Super Bowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Super Bowl MVP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 So if Bledsoe would have won a ring he'd of surpassed jimbo in your mind? Or Rob Johnson? Don't you think who Jimbo was in the community made him the that much more popular? The guy would go out and throw for 300 and 3 td's then you'd see him drinking at bar downtown that night.t-r 368400[/snapback] Kelly was a great QB. The best the Bills have ever had. But most fans (myself included) don't care about numbers. We care about wins. Kelly was great because he won. The only way JP (or any Bills' QB) can surpass Kelly is to win the game he couldn't. Imagine (a very hypothetical situation) if Brady was the Bills QB (with all the same stats and wins). Not many people would be arguing Kelly was the better QB because he has better numbers. Everyone of us would say Brady is the franchise best...and how could anyone argue with 3 rings in 4 years? Isn't it that simple? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Toboggan M.D Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Any QB to win a superbowl in Buffalo would make that QB the greatest QB the Bills have ever had. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Is it even possible? I know I am getting WAAAAAAAAAY ahead of myself and I am not saying that he will. Yet, just out of curiousity what would he or any other qb have to do to pass Jim Kelly in your mind as the best ever in a Bills uniform? Statistically jimbo threw for 35,000 yard with 237 tds. I'm pretty sure everyone knows all this but I'm just putting it out there. What would he have to do? 50,000 Yards and two superbowls? 300 tds? Open a succesful bar downtown? Just having some fun. Can it be done? T-R 368382[/snapback] Lets' see....if Kelly is "ten times" the QB than Bledsoe "could ever be", and most here seem to think that in 2005, without playing a down, the Bills are already better off with Losman at QB than they would be with another year of Bledsoe (everyone says "he can't do any worse") than my math tells me that all JP Losman has to do is start 11 games for the Bills, and he will surpass Jim Kelly as the all-time best Bills quarterback....yeah, that sounds right to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40+ Year Bills Fan Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 MUCHO!!!! Jim is and always be my favorite Bills QB... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 This would be a nice start When looking at that list, it struck me just how long those guys (other than Manning and Bledsoe) had to play to reach these stats. Also, Kelly lost out due to time spent in the USFL. I hope to someday see JP's name on this list, but that is a tall order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMIEBUF12 Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 win a superbowl! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBXBILLSFAN Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Have a long and successful career, put up big numbers, and win a Super Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 it's a good question. i don't think the answer is as simple as "just win a super bowl" because of kelly's longevity and what he meant to a working-class city like buffalo. nobody will ever go to 4 straight SBs again. we loved jim not only because of his talent, but because of his confidence and never-say-die attitude that would allow him to throw 3 INTS in the 1st half but come back to throw 3 TDs in the 2nd half. to SURPASS kelly as greatest bills' QB ever, a guy would need at least a 10-year career that includes playoffs in 70-80% of those seasons and at least one SB victory. my $.02, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Hair. If JP can get that Esiason thing going on, he'll be better in my book. You see, it's the hair that makes the QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick in* england Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 JP needs to win a ring. Then he needs to stick around as one of the leagues premier QB's for at least 6-7 seasons. He does that he'll be the best ever Bills QB. Just getting 1 ring will not do it for him in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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