Pokebball Posted May 31, 2024 Posted May 31, 2024 On 5/31/2024 at 4:28 PM, The Frankish Reich said: Here's a thought: maybe it's not the end of the Republic. Maybe if young men (and face facts, we're talking about men) with political aspirations learn that they will be prosecuted for breaking the law even though they are well-connected, there will be a new class of politicians who don't treat the law as nonbinding guidance. Venue changes are extremely rare, and are based on pre-trial publicity in a particular district that could be addressed by moving the trial elsewhere. Where could we have moved OJ's trial? Trump's trial? Were the prospective jurors of WDNY (Buffalo) unaware of who this Trump fellow is and what people say he's done or been wrongfully accused of doing? Such motions are not based on how the district's populace voted in the last election. Expand Venue changes, particularly, are done to obtain fairness. Given the DAs campaigning on getting Trump and the recent civil case, I don't think it would have been odd at all. 1
Pokebball Posted May 31, 2024 Posted May 31, 2024 On 5/31/2024 at 4:33 PM, BillStime said: Should the venue and judge in the classified documents case be changed? Expand did anyone incolved in this case campaign on getting trump?
Scraps Posted May 31, 2024 Posted May 31, 2024 On 5/31/2024 at 4:41 PM, Pokebball said: Venue changes, particularly, are done to obtain fairness. Given the DAs campaigning on getting Trump and the recent civil case, I don't think it would have been odd at all. Expand The DA wouldn't have changed.
Pokebball Posted May 31, 2024 Posted May 31, 2024 (edited) On 5/31/2024 at 4:43 PM, Scraps said: The DA wouldn't have changed. Expand the jury in the DAs district would have. It's a moot point now, except for the appeals process Edited May 31, 2024 by Pokebball
Joe Ferguson forever Posted May 31, 2024 Posted May 31, 2024 On 5/31/2024 at 4:32 PM, boyst said: my knitting forum was too full of toxic masculinity so i needed to spend time with lesser people. Expand false. don't you have some legal history we discussed back then?
BillStime Posted May 31, 2024 Posted May 31, 2024 On 5/31/2024 at 4:42 PM, Pokebball said: did anyone incolved in this case campaign on getting trump? Expand Bragg did not campaign on “getting” Trump. https://www.politifact.com/article/2023/apr/12/heres-what-manhattan-district-attorney-alvin-bragg/
BringMetheHeadofLeonLett Posted May 31, 2024 Posted May 31, 2024 On 5/30/2024 at 9:43 PM, B-Man said: Does anyone doubt that the “cackling hens here, see Roundy, Muppy, et al, would have come down to PPP if the verdict had been reversed No. they are the weakest type of poster. Expand A much better poster would refute legitimate points with bizzarro unrelated conspiracy splotchings.
HomeskillitMoorman Posted May 31, 2024 Posted May 31, 2024 What a drama queen post. I think some of you live in such a bubble with politics. The reality is, most people in our country either had a laugh or rolled their eyes about this and moved on with their day. This wasn’t some kind of transcendent moment that most people will tell their kids about or remember where they were for it. It’s probably not even consequential for the election. The high majority of people pretty much already know who they’re voting for. People writing things like “this is the day America died”…what? Go out and get some fresh air or something dude! 1 1
Pokebball Posted May 31, 2024 Posted May 31, 2024 On 5/31/2024 at 4:49 PM, BillStime said: Bragg did not campaign on “getting” Trump. https://www.politifact.com/article/2023/apr/12/heres-what-manhattan-district-attorney-alvin-bragg/ Expand Here's what Bragg said, interpret that as you may... While campaigning, Bragg said: "I have investigated Trump and his children and held them accountable for their misconduct with the Trump Foundation. I also sued the Trump administration more than 100 times for the travel ban, the separation of children from their families at the border. So I know that work. I know how to follow the facts and hold people in power accountable." He also said that he would continue with Vance's investigation and hold Trump "accountable by following the facts where they go." 1
boyst Posted May 31, 2024 Posted May 31, 2024 On 5/31/2024 at 4:47 PM, Joe Ferguson forever said: false. don't you have some legal history we discussed back then? Expand the 3 or 4 years i was away when i was banned for spamming the shoutbox to break the word filter? yeah, legal trouble. simon had me arrested by the swat team. duh. 1
BillStime Posted May 31, 2024 Posted May 31, 2024 On 5/31/2024 at 4:56 PM, Pokebball said: Here's what Bragg said, interpret that as you may... While campaigning, Bragg said: "I have investigated Trump and his children and held them accountable for their misconduct with the Trump Foundation. I also sued the Trump administration more than 100 times for the travel ban, the separation of children from their families at the border. So I know that work. I know how to follow the facts and hold people in power accountable." He also said that he would continue with Vance's investigation and hold Trump "accountable by following the facts where they go." Expand Yep. He followed the facts and the jury agreed. Now answer my question - is Aileen Cannon a judge or a member of Trumps defense?
boyst Posted May 31, 2024 Posted May 31, 2024 On 5/31/2024 at 4:59 PM, BillStime said: Yep. He followed the facts and the jury agreed. Now answer my question - is Aileen Cannon a judge or a member of Trumps defense? Expand because if it's not results you like it's clearly a rigged setup? right Hillary?
The Frankish Reich Posted May 31, 2024 Posted May 31, 2024 On 5/31/2024 at 4:50 PM, HomeskillitMoorman said: What a drama queen post. I think some of you live in such a bubble with politics. The reality is, most people in our country either had a laugh or rolled their eyes about this and moved on with their day. This wasn’t some kind of transcendent moment that most people will tell their kids about or remember where they were for it. It’s probably not even consequential for the election. The high majority of people pretty much already know who they’re voting for. People writing things like “this is the day America died”…what? Go out and get some fresh air or something dude! Expand Rich buffoon bangs hooker. A decade later decides he's running for President. Uses "alternative media" to plant fake stories about opponents. Furiously tries to cover up past antics by paying off people, making use of same trash media. Shocks himself by winning. Goes back a year or two later to pay back his sleazeball lawyer. Has accountant falsify books to cover up what the payment was for. Loses reelection bid. Refuses to just go away like Jimmy Carter or Bush 41. Wants revenge! Gets prosecuted for old scam crimes. End of the Republic! 1
Pokebball Posted May 31, 2024 Posted May 31, 2024 On 5/31/2024 at 4:59 PM, BillStime said: Yep. He followed the facts and the jury agreed. Now answer my question - is Aileen Cannon a judge or a member of Trumps defense? Expand Everyone holds biases to some extent. Bragg pursued Trump hard and he made that a part of his campaign for DA. I think it's pretty clear he had significant bias against trump, and clearly campaigned on it. What's your case against Cannon?
BillStime Posted May 31, 2024 Posted May 31, 2024 On 5/31/2024 at 5:01 PM, boyst said: because if it's not results you like it's clearly a rigged setup? right Hillary? Expand Yes, that’s what Trump told us: 2016 Iowa Caucus - Rigged‼️ Emmy Awards - Rigged‼️ 2020 Election - Rigged‼️ Election lawsuits - Rigged‼️ E Jean Carroll trial - Rigged‼️ NY fraud trial - Rigged‼️ NYC criminal trial - Rigged‼️ NYC Courtroom thermostat - Rigged‼️ Hillary:
BillsFanNC Posted May 31, 2024 Author Posted May 31, 2024 On 5/31/2024 at 4:50 PM, HomeskillitMoorman said: What a drama queen post. I think some of you live in such a bubble with politics. The reality is, most people in our country either had a laugh or rolled their eyes about this and moved on with their day. This wasn’t some kind of transcendent moment that most people will tell their kids about or remember where they were for it. It’s probably not even consequential for the election. The high majority of people pretty much already know who they’re voting for. People writing things like “this is the day America died”…what? Go out and get some fresh air or something dude! Expand So friggin out of touch. Pathetic.
BillStime Posted May 31, 2024 Posted May 31, 2024 On 5/31/2024 at 5:03 PM, Pokebball said: What's your case against Cannon? Expand
BillsFanNC Posted May 31, 2024 Author Posted May 31, 2024 On 5/31/2024 at 4:56 PM, Pokebball said: Here's what Bragg said, interpret that as you may... While campaigning, Bragg said: "I have investigated Trump and his children and held them accountable for their misconduct with the Trump Foundation. I also sued the Trump administration more than 100 times for the travel ban, the separation of children from their families at the border. So I know that work. I know how to follow the facts and hold people in power accountable." He also said that he would continue with Vance's investigation and hold Trump "accountable by following the facts where they go." Expand Bragg and Letitia James have helped create new rules. Now you can campaign on the promise of indicting your political opponents. They kept their campaign promises. Now we have new rules. 1
Pokebball Posted May 31, 2024 Posted May 31, 2024 On 5/31/2024 at 5:17 PM, BillStime said: Expand That's all you got? That's a pretty low bar. Now do NYC 1
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