Roundybout Posted Monday at 06:54 PM Posted Monday at 06:54 PM 7 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: That’s bad. Obviously. It’s just that you seemed to hold different positions in the recent past. If I were so inclined, it would be very easy to quote some of those positions here. Don’t worry about it. consistency is overrated. I have no idea what you’re talking about so I’ll let you twist in the wind and potentially ruminate on Trump’s disastrous policies.
The Frankish Reich Posted Monday at 08:08 PM Author Posted Monday at 08:08 PM 1 hour ago, JDHillFan said: That’s bad. Obviously. It’s just that you seemed to hold different positions in the recent past. If I were so inclined, it would be very easy to quote some of those positions here. Don’t worry about it. consistency is overrated. Don't get him started. He collects political posts on an obscure corner of an obscure football fan forum like this guy collects bobbleheads.
JDHillFan Posted Monday at 08:22 PM Posted Monday at 08:22 PM 11 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Don't get him started. He collects political posts on an obscure corner of an obscure football fan forum like this guy collects bobbleheads. Looks like you may have quoted the wrong post. It happens. Do you remember that time you were a little scoldy because you thought Karen Bass had only been in office a few weeks prior to the horrible fires? That was awesome. 1
B-Man Posted Monday at 08:29 PM Posted Monday at 08:29 PM 1 hour ago, Roundybout said: I have no idea what you’re talking about That is painfully obvious. .
The Frankish Reich Posted Monday at 08:51 PM Author Posted Monday at 08:51 PM 28 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: Looks like you may have quoted the wrong post. It happens. Do you remember that time you were a little scoldy because you thought Karen Bass had only been in office a few weeks prior to the horrible fires? That was awesome. For an old guy you are right onto this new right mode of "we perused everything you ever posted anywhere" facile form of argument. 1
Doc Posted Monday at 09:08 PM Posted Monday at 09:08 PM 3 hours ago, sherpa said: I really regret the way the administration has not informed our country on how obvious this situation was, and that something absolutely needed to be done. We were getting abused by China, India and the EU. A response to this is absolutely justified. China is the worst, but our other trade partners are nearly as guilty, and the situation needs to change. The Treasury Secretary was on CNBC for an extended interview this morning and his most informative comment was that when they started looking at this stuff, he couldn't believe how bad it has gotten. This gets worked out, but it wasn't moving in that direction. What few also seem to realize is that an almost $40T national debt, with $8T added under Biden, is untenable.
Roundybout Posted Monday at 09:10 PM Posted Monday at 09:10 PM 40 minutes ago, B-Man said: That is painfully obvious. . Why do you support Americans paying higher prices for everything? 1 minute ago, Doc said: What few also seem to realize is that an almost $40T national debt, with $8T added under Biden, is untenable. 1) Trade deficits are NOT the same thing as a budget deficit 2) Trump's plan will add $7.75 trillion to the deficit.
JDHillFan Posted Monday at 10:30 PM Posted Monday at 10:30 PM 1 hour ago, The Frankish Reich said: For an old guy you are right onto this new right mode of "we perused everything you ever posted anywhere" facile form of argument. I’ve mentioned it before - there are times when someone posts something so ridiculous that it’s easy to remember. Do you expect that I will have to peruse any prior posts to recall you giving us a picture of CC Sabathia claiming it was George Scott? Of course not. You, Redhawk, and Roundy are not necessarily an exclusive club, but you do make things easy.
Joe Ferguson forever Posted Monday at 11:06 PM Posted Monday at 11:06 PM For those who refuse to read articles, this says things are very bad, terrible, not at all good news about the dollar at a 3 year low despite the promise these tariffs would make it stronger. This is chaos. We are losing. https://thehill.com/opinion/5270094-trump-tariffs-dollar-decline/
The Frankish Reich Posted Tuesday at 12:19 AM Author Posted Tuesday at 12:19 AM 1 hour ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: For those who refuse to read articles, this says things are very bad, terrible, not at all good news about the dollar at a 3 year low despite the promise these tariffs would make it stronger. This is chaos. We are losing. https://thehill.com/opinion/5270094-trump-tariffs-dollar-decline/ Sound analysis. I'm always quoting Chesterton here: "A man should not take down a fence until he understands why it was put up." Yet another example of Trump not heeding that advice. That conservative advice. 1
IrishLass Posted Tuesday at 12:21 AM Posted Tuesday at 12:21 AM 1 hour ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: For those who refuse to read articles, this says things are very bad, terrible, not at all good news about the dollar at a 3 year low despite the promise these tariffs would make it stronger. This is chaos. We are losing. https://thehill.com/opinion/5270094-trump-tariffs-dollar-decline/ My life is the same as ever. Keep reading!
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted Tuesday at 12:38 AM Posted Tuesday at 12:38 AM 17 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Sound analysis. I'm always quoting Chesterton here: "A man should not take down a fence until he understands why it was put up." Yet another example of Trump not heeding that advice. That conservative advice. Breasty Chesterton, the exotic dancer? It sounds dirty if you ask me. 2
The Frankish Reich Posted Tuesday at 12:42 AM Author Posted Tuesday at 12:42 AM 3 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Breasty Chesterton, the exotic dancer? It sounds dirty if you ask me. She knew the guardrails, just like good old G.K.
Andy1 Posted Tuesday at 03:58 AM Posted Tuesday at 03:58 AM (edited) So Trump claimed he got 200 trade deals done. Poor Bessent has to go on tv explaining they are actually “sub deals”. 🤨 I’m pretty sure I have a sub deal done to buy a new car at my below invoice asking price. I’m not going to get ripped off by those dealers. Edited Tuesday at 03:59 AM by Andy1 1 1
The Frankish Reich Posted Tuesday at 04:02 AM Author Posted Tuesday at 04:02 AM 2 minutes ago, Andy1 said: So Trump claimed he got 200 trade deals done. Poor Bessent has to go on tv explaining they are actually “sub deals”. 🤨 I’m pretty sure I have a sub deal done to buy a new car at my below invoice asking price. I’m not going to get ripped off by those dealers. My wife and I have a "sub-deal" to buy a $10 million home in Aspen. By which I mean: she really likes it, and the realtor says that as soon as we come up with $10 million it's ours. 1
US Egg Posted Tuesday at 04:10 AM Posted Tuesday at 04:10 AM 12 minutes ago, Andy1 said: Bessent My first pick for truancy. 🤷♂️
Roundybout Posted Tuesday at 12:26 PM Posted Tuesday at 12:26 PM Imagine Trump’s polling when the average suburban wine mom has to pay 200% more for her Amazon slop order 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted Tuesday at 12:47 PM Posted Tuesday at 12:47 PM (edited) 12 hours ago, IrishLass said: My life is the same as ever. Keep reading! Attention Walmart shopper . All sales end in 2 weeks! https://www.investors.com/news/trump-trade-war-difficult-decisions-as-china-shipments-cease/ Edited Tuesday at 12:47 PM by Joe Ferguson forever
Niagara Bill Posted Tuesday at 01:37 PM Posted Tuesday at 01:37 PM 18 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Thanks for sharing your perspective. Except for the far-left populated with conspiracy theories of some impending dictatorship (which I do not see any chance of happening) here in The States, I don't hear any serious conversation on the idea of the US taking military action against Canada or Greenland. In my view the culprit is a lot of inappropriate rhetoric out of the administration. I also don't believe there's any plan or understanding between the US, Russia, and China to look the other way while they each take aggressive actions to take over territory. I do see China's motivation to take over Taiwan and Russia's desire for some provinces of Ukraine but in each case its not the need for more land or territory. The idea Russia has designs on taking over the European continent is comical. They simply do not have the economic or military resources to pull that off. Russia's aim in Ukraine is a buffer zone between them and NATO. Taking over Taiwan has been a historical goal of the communists in China since the revolution and I see Trump's objective as a 21st century version of the Monroe Doctrine but the execution of that plan has been a disaster using confrontation where cooperation would be more effective. One fault in his strategy is he seems to view everything as transaction rather than taking a systemic view of things. I see the main objective being to eliminate China's influence and footprint in the Western Hemisphere. Canada is seen as a country where the CCP wields a very high level of influence over the government and the country. How true this is or to what extent is debatable. I do see some issues with trade, tariffs, regulations designed to eliminate competition, and support protectionism. My view of free trade is a mutually agreed to exchange between 2 parties without any interference from the government(s). Any real free trade agreement should be about 2 or 3 pages long. But such a view is unrealistic given the circumstances where governments are involved. I think both sides need to concede and compromise but the environment for that may not exist at the moment. As for America itself, I see the political divide as a battle between two Americas. But not the left vs. right struggle everybody tends to focus on here and in the media. Its between America the country and America the empire. They are not constituted in of the same physical territories or interests and the empire is not just geographically America. It is worldwide with many interests in many places. Most so-called MAGA people are more concerned with the interests of America the country and don't want to play world cop and get involved in constant wars while liberals are more concerned with the interests of the Empire. I don't believe the majority of either group realizes the distinction. The left sees MAGA as illiterate hillbillies and rubes easily duped into believing outrageous things influenced by mis and dis information. While the right sees Liberals as snooty over-educated idealists that look down on anyone that doesn't hold the same enlightened world view as they do. Not sure why Canada is scene to be influenced by CCP. Canada did trumps dirty work by detaining the Huawei executive for 2 years, at trumps request, which put Canada in the middle. Trump later dropped his interest and China detained 2 Canadians for 3 yrs. Canada refused Chinese electric vehicles. China stopped purchasing huge volumes of canola oil and now buys from Brazil. Canada stopped real-estate purchases from China. Canada expelled Chinese diplomats for election interference. IMHO, China is now more trust worthy than US today US was always beacon of freedom. US now is the beacon of money. Freedom how maga judges it only. Now France, England Canada, Australia, Germany are not proper freedom. That is a total joke. US now embraces dictators with ease. The left does want US and Canada to pay for building the greatest, free Countries on earth. Columbus used a few slaves on his ships...terrible. Egypt build pyramids with slaves, that is ok because they are not rich and successful. It goes on and on. Our open societies allowed the Trojan horses in, as did Europe. But trump has destroyed any opportunity for the freeworld to collectively deal with it. The US is no longer freedoms beacon. Power, money, threats, insults and retribution have already isolated the US from the world. Every citizen of Canada buys $9000 of goods and services per yr from US companies, US citizens buy $2500 of Canadian goods and services. If I were in charge, Mexico and Canada should shake hands with China, sign freetrade agreements with EU, and some SAmerican countries and Korea, India, Vietnam and totally allow US isolation. I would not offer to negotiate a new trade deal. I would give notice the Ford and GM that we will return to pre NAFTA, if you want to sell cars in Canada you will build that volume here, or goodbye. China and Europe will fill that void. Nobody needs a friend or neighbour who threatens you, laughs at you, insults you, steals from you and violates treaties they signed. There is no way anyone should view Kristi Noami, or the US government in a positive light for her photo op at the joint library on Vermont Quebec border, being a toughie. That was the final straw in the relationship, at the governmental level. That message was clear. Citizens friendships will continue, but our governments will never return to previous levels of trust. That may lead to more sinister events, but so be it. .
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