America is the most energy independent it has been in decades

[BillStime]

🎯

 

 

[BillsFanNC]

 

[BillStime]

Gee, I wonder who runs the House of Representatives…

 

US Congress eyes Northeast Gasoline Supply Reserve sale, closure

 

idiots 

[BillStime]

 

[Irv]

9 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

Lie

[BillStime]

Just now, Irv said:

Lie

Oh ok - source?

[BillStime]

 

[sherpa]

Thankfully, Biden is a liar.

 

"As he campaigned for president in 2020, Joe Biden responded to a New Hampshire town hall question unequivocally, adding repetition for emphasis.

"No more drilling on federal lands," he said Feb. 9, 2020. "Period. Period. Period. Period."

 

Biden repeated his stance a month later, saying at a presidential primary debate: "No more drilling on federal lands.

No more drilling, including offshore. No ability for the oil industry to continue to drill, period, ends." 

 

Three years later, the Biden administration disappointed supporters of his climate change policy by approving a major drilling project in Alaska."

 

See provisions of the Inflation Reduction Act to understand why Biden was legally bound to approve drilling.

It wasn't his choice, not that anyone would know, it was a legal requirement.

 

The man would drill through his mother's grave if it meant getting a vote.

He is an airbag. Nothing of substance. 

 

But at least he was stupid enough to inform us at last year's State of the Union that we would need fossil fuels for at least ten years, resulting in laughter from both sides and in every household who happened to be watching. 

 

[BillStime]

5 minutes ago, sherpa said:

Thankfully, Biden is a liar.

 

"As he campaigned for president in 2020, Joe Biden responded to a New Hampshire town hall question unequivocally, adding repetition for emphasis.

"No more drilling on federal lands," he said Feb. 9, 2020. "Period. Period. Period. Period."

 

Biden repeated his stance a month later, saying at a presidential primary debate: "No more drilling on federal lands.

No more drilling, including offshore. No ability for the oil industry to continue to drill, period, ends." 

 

Three years later, the Biden administration disappointed supporters of his climate change policy by approving a major drilling project in Alaska."

 

See provisions of the Inflation Reduction Act to understand why Biden was legally bound to approve drilling.

It wasn't his choice, not that anyone would know, it was a legal requirement.

 

The man would drill through his mother's grave if it meant getting a vote.

He is an airbag. Nothing of substance. 

 

But at least he was stupid enough to inform us at last year's State of the Union that we would need fossil fuels for at least ten years, resulting in laughter from both sides and in every household who happened to be watching. 

 

 

I wonder what changed...

 

 

[sherpa]

9 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

I wonder what changed...

 

 

Shirly you can't be serious.

 

He makes no decisions.

He has no substance.

His staff tells him what to do to appease voters and he is the puppet of their desires, all designed for votes.

Idiotic energy policy with countless flips, including begging the Saudis to not announce OPEC production cuts until after the US mid terms.

Releasing reserves from the strategic petroleum reserve for unintended reasons.

 

He is useless.

 

 

[Capco]

9 hours ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

They used a picture of propane tanks for a story about gasoline reserves?  lol

[BillStime]

10 minutes ago, sherpa said:

 

Shirly you can't be serious.

 

He makes no decisions.

He has no substance.

His staff tells him what to do to appease voters and he is the puppet of their desires, all designed for votes.

Idiotic energy policy with countless flips, including begging the Saudis to not announce OPEC production cuts until after the US mid terms.

Releasing reserves from the strategic petroleum reserve for unintended reasons.

 

He is useless.

 

 

 

Yea, well, Covid hit, Trump told Saudi: Cut oil supply or lose U.S. military support; then the world started to open up; people started driving, demand was high; supply was low; gas prices skyrocketed and then Putin invaded Ukraine - Biden had to do something, right? 

 

 

 

 

 

[sherpa]

1 minute ago, BillStime said:

 

Yea, well, Covid hit, Trump told Saudi: Cut oil supply or lose U.S. military support; then the world started to open up; people started driving, demand was high; supply was low; gas prices skyrocketed and then Putin invaded Ukraine - Biden had to do something, right? 

 

This is where you and he completely miss.

There was absolutely no need to do put his moronic policy in place the second he took office, which he did.

Grossly stupid.

 

Yet he did it, and a number of energy projects were shelved as the result.

These things take close to a decade to spool up.

 

So you get the Russian invasion.

Europe, and Germany in particular are caught with potentially catastrophic supply problems heading into 2022 winter.

The US is in much worse position to backstop supply and you get what you get.

 

Totally stupid. Totally unforced.

 

The Trump suggestion is idiotic, not that you haven't puked it out before.

Trump was trying to protect the US energy industry as the Saudis were trying to get prices so low it would end further US production.

Different time, and the right thing to do.

 

Stick to the sex stuff vs. Trump.

I couldn't care less, but  Biden and his bizarre energy moves are indefensible from a strategic and logical perspective, as well as being exposed as grossly political and without conscience.

 

[BillStime]

23 minutes ago, sherpa said:

There was absolutely no need to do put his moronic policy in place the second he took office, which he did.

Grossly stupid.

Can you highlights those EOs that directly impacted our energy dependence?

 

27 minutes ago, sherpa said:

So you get the Russian invasion.

Europe, and Germany in particular are caught with potentially catastrophic supply problems heading into 2022 winter.

The US is in much worse position to backstop supply and you get what you get.

Cute

 

Biden granted more oil and gas drilling permits than Trump in his first 2 years .

 

30 minutes ago, sherpa said:

The Trump suggestion is idiotic, not that you haven't puked it out before.

Trump was trying to protect the US energy industry as the Saudis were trying to get prices so low it would end further US production.

Different time, and the right thing to do.

Wrong - Trump did this in April 2020.

 

31 minutes ago, sherpa said:

Stick to the sex stuff vs. Trump.

I couldn't care less, but  Biden and his bizarre energy moves are indefensible from a strategic and logical perspective, as well as being exposed as grossly political and without conscience.

You seem upset with facts.

 

Bottom line - Biden is crushing it on the economy and energy front.

 

 

 

 

[sherpa]

11 minutes ago, BillStime said:

Can you highlights those EOs that directly impacted our energy dependence?

 

Cute

 

Biden granted more oil and gas drilling permits than Trump in his first 2 years .

 

Wrong - Trump did this in April 2020.

 

You seem upset with facts.

 

 

Bottom line - Biden is crushing it on the economy and energy front.

 

Do you intentionally theorize that people here don't know of what they speak?

Do you think that enough people don't care enough to scrutinize what you say that they will believe any of your nonsense?

Do you think there are more than two people here who think that Trump actually claimed that "good people" included Nazis and white supremacists? 

 

Per your claim, Trump did this in April of 2020.

Do you know how this claim proves my point and makes you look a fool?

Do you know what the price of a barrel of oil was at the date you mentioned he suggested this.

Here's a clue. High $30's, in fact companies were paying for people to take oil supply off their hands, as there was no more storage capacity.

 

Here genius:

https://www.cnn.com/business/live-news/stock-market-news-042020/index.html

 

I don't think you have any idea about any of this, and I'm becoming quite certain you don't have the capacity to understand basic stuff.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[BillStime]

40 minutes ago, sherpa said:

 

Do you intentionally theorize that people here don't know of what they speak?

Do you think that enough people don't care enough to scrutinize what you say that they will believe any of your nonsense?

Do you think there are more than two people here who think that Trump actually claimed that "good people" included Nazis and white supremacists? 

 

Per your claim, Trump did this in April of 2020.

Do you know how this claim proves my point and makes you look a fool?

Do you know what the price of a barrel of oil was at the date you mentioned he suggested this.

Here's a clue. High $30's, in fact companies were paying for people to take oil supply off their hands, as there was no more storage capacity.

 

Here genius:

https://www.cnn.com/business/live-news/stock-market-news-042020/index.html

 

I don't think you have any idea about any of this, and I'm becoming quite certain you don't have the capacity to understand basic stuff.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lmao - you inadvertently left out the kitchen sink in your pouting but face it - Trump’s energy policies were killing the industry even before COVID.  The oil industry actually hasn’t done that well under Trump

 

And you still don’t want to share what policy Biden enacted on day 1?

 

 

 

Edited March 7 by BillStime

[sherpa]

15 minutes ago, BillStime said:

lmao - you inadvertently left out the kitchen sink in your pouting but face it - Trump’s energy policies were killing the industry even before COVID.  The oil industry actually hasn’t done that well under Trump

 

And you still don’t want to share what policy Biden enacted on day 1?

 

 

 

 

I don't take homework assignments.

But....during his campaign, he stated he was going to end all drilling.

On day one, to answer your challenge, he ended the Keystone Pipeline.

Please don't suggest that you know anything about that being an export asset. I pay close attention to the energy markets and there were far reaching effects of that, along with his swearing to end all drilling.

 

I was too kind in responding to you earlier.

You have absolutely no idea about the energy markets and history, and expose yourself a fool when you post about that issue, as you have above.

The fact is that when Trump suggested, wisely, that the Saudis limit production, oil had reached negative value due to covid.

Producers were actually willing to pay to take it off their hands. 

There was no storage capacity available,

 

You make the same mistake over and over, along with the other guy.

The real and economic world make no sense to you because your view is so politically distorted.

Not worth the time.

 

By the way, people who have traded for years, and do it on a daily basis never talk about it, and know signs of phonies who claim to have "investments off the charts."

Recognize that phrase? 

 

 

 

[BillStime]

1 hour ago, sherpa said:

 

I don't take homework assignments.

But....during his campaign, he stated he was going to end all drilling.

On day one, to answer your challenge, he ended the Keystone Pipeline.

Please don't suggest that you know anything about that being an export asset. I pay close attention to the energy markets and there were far reaching effects of that, along with his swearing to end all drilling.

 

I was too kind in responding to you earlier.

You have absolutely no idea about the energy markets and history, and expose yourself a fool when you post about that issue, as you have above.

The fact is that when Trump suggested, wisely, that the Saudis limit production, oil had reached negative value due to covid.

Producers were actually willing to pay to take it off their hands. 

There was no storage capacity available,

 

You make the same mistake over and over, along with the other guy.

The real and economic world make no sense to you because your view is so politically distorted.

Not worth the time.

 

By the way, people who have traded for years, and do it on a daily basis never talk about it, and know signs of phonies who claim to have "investments off the charts."

Recognize that phrase? 

 

 

 

 

If you're truly a thought leader in energy markets, you wouldn't fall for the right-wing Keystone Pipeline hoax.

 

The Keystone pipeline wasn't projected to be operational until 2023.

The U.S. continued to receive oil from Canada through railways, other pipelines and the original Keystone pipeline.
 

Bottom line - this pipeline had no impact on gas prices. 
 

As the world reopened - the supply could not keep pace with the immediate surge in demand.

 

You’re just pissed that Biden is KILlING it and your guy conned the F out of you.

 

Keep whining.

[BillsFanNC]

 

[US Egg]

Make no mistake, Biden is limiting oil production in the U.S.
 

He recently approved the smallest offshore oil program in history.

[sherpa]

5 hours ago, BillStime said:

 

If you're truly a thought leader in energy markets, you wouldn't fall for the right-wing Keystone Pipeline hoax.

 

The Keystone pipeline wasn't projected to be operational until 2023.

The U.S. continued to receive oil from Canada through railways, other pipelines and the original Keystone pipeline.
 

Bottom line - this pipeline had no impact on gas prices. 
 

As the world reopened - the supply could not keep pace with the immediate surge in demand.

 

You’re just pissed that Biden is KILlING it and your guy conned the F out of you.

 

Keep whining.

 

You really have no idea.

 

The president does not control oil prices or the energy markets.

What he can do, and did, it set the environment that energy companies have to operate in.

It takes years to bring a project on line to the point of production, and when the environment is impacted by the statements and promises that Biden made, it would have been foolish and a violation of fiduciary responsibility to not "adjust" to the environment he created.

 

It wasn't just drilling on federal lands, which he has since reneged on, refining and transportation was also "adjusted" making both more expensive and less attractive to produce.

 

By the way, your stupid claim that anybody, let alone a man I have despised for decades is "my guy" is as ignorant as a host of other stupid things you repeatedly claim.

Not have I ever claimed to be a "thought leader in energy markets."

I watch and I pay attention. I have listened to countless interviews from decision makers in that industry, as it had a huge impact on the industry my career was dependent on.

I paid close attention, including being aware of futures contracts that were reported on financial statements of various energy dependent companies and the prices they paid for those hedges.

 

You post remarkably stupid things to the point that if you were a medical situation you would be taken off life support.

 Foolishly accusatory and ignorant, wasting your time and others with zero effect.

Edited March 7 by sherpa

[US Egg]

This thread is misleading:

 

 

[BillStime]

7 hours ago, sherpa said:

 

You really have no idea.

 

The president does not control oil prices or the energy markets.

What he can do, and did, it set the environment that energy companies have to operate in.

It takes years to bring a project on line to the point of production, and when the environment is impacted by the statements and promises that Biden made, it would have been foolish and a violation of fiduciary responsibility to not "adjust" to the environment he created.

 

It wasn't just drilling on federal lands, which he has since reneged on, refining and transportation was also "adjusted" making both more expensive and less attractive to produce.

 

By the way, your stupid claim that anybody, let alone a man I have despised for decades is "my guy" is as ignorant as a host of other stupid things you repeatedly claim.

Not have I ever claimed to be a "thought leader in energy markets."

I watch and I pay attention. I have listened to countless interviews from decision makers in that industry, as it had a huge impact on the industry my career was dependent on.

I paid close attention, including being aware of futures contracts that were reported on financial statements of various energy dependent companies and the prices they paid for those hedges.

 

You post remarkably stupid things to the point that if you were a medical situation you would be taken off life support.

 Foolishly accusatory and ignorant, wasting your time and others with zero effect.

You have a lot of anger. lmao
 

Bottom line - and this is what pisses you and Egg Nog off:

 

Note the community note!

 

[BillStime]

 

[sherpa]

I am not going to quote an idiotic post from Billsy as they take up far too much space, with all the useless cartoons and other items that are not self authored.

But....the claim that I am "angry" is idiotic.

Not angry at all.

 

Biden is a dysfunctional idiot.

Always has been.

A back burner Democrat that has no record of achievement beyond his totally false claims of his record of achievement, which even Democrats know are false.

 

His energy policies have waivered and are strictly political.

Impossible to deny that.

[B-Man]

Just now, sherpa said:

 

 

I am not going to quote an idiotic post from Billsy

 

 

 

Thank you.

 

That is the considerate way to reply to his bullspit posts.

 

 

[The Frankish Reich]

2 hours ago, US Egg said:

This thread is misleading:

 

 

Imagine that: production ramps up, in part due to expectations of high crude prices.

Increased production and continuing low crude prices causes drillers to pause on expensive new oil drilling offshore projects.

It's almost like there's a market in crude oil.

 

[Tiberius]

1 hour ago, sherpa said:

I am not going to quote an idiotic post from Billsy as they take up far too much space, with all the useless cartoons and other items that are not self authored.

But....the claim that I am "angry" is idiotic.

Not angry at all.

 

Biden is a dysfunctional idiot.

Always has been.

A back burner Democrat that has no record of achievement beyond his totally false claims of his record of achievement, which even Democrats know are false.

 

His energy policies have waivered and are strictly political.

Impossible to deny that.

So you are voting for Trump then?

1 hour ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Thank you.

 

That is the considerate way to reply to his bullspit posts.

 

 

This is rich. B-man saying someone's  posts are bull sh it. 🤡

[sherpa]

3 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

So you are voting for Trump then?

 

 

Are you completely incapable of remembering anything?

 

I stated many times that I would never vote for him.  Never have. I don't like the man.

 

No matter how many times you and that other guy make these stupid suggestions, you embarrass yourselves.

It didn't work the first time, and it won't the fiftieth time.

[Tiberius]

1 minute ago, sherpa said:

 

Are you completely incapable of remembering anything?

 

I stated many times that I would never vote for him.  Never have. I don't like the man.

 

No matter how many times you and that other guy make these stupid suggestions, you embarrass yourselves.

It didn't work the first time, and it won't the fiftieth time.

Settle down, so angry. Just asking.

[sherpa]

9 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Settle down, so angry. Just asking.

 

And I am responding.

What is this new nonsense of people being angry.

You have no ability to make me angry in any way.

 

You are a phony.

You questioned me/accused me a couple of years ago.

I offered to pay thousands to the charity of your choice if I could not prove what I claimed.

You disappeared.

Never took the challenge. Never even responded.

 

You think a clown like you could ever cause anyone to be angry?

 

Not possible.

Get over yourself. You don't have the ability to make anyone "angry."

Nobody cares.

 

 

 

 

 

[US Egg]

1 hour ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Imagine that: production ramps up, in part due to expectations of high crude prices.

Increased production and continuing low crude prices causes drillers to pause on expensive new oil drilling offshore projects.

It's almost like there's a market in crude oil.

 

Drilling is not being limited by the oil companies choosing, rather by Bidens ruling. Their are mandates to allow development of oil and natural gas.

 

The need for energy is growing, Biden is restricting future access to resources in federal waters with the fewest lease sales in history 

 

It puts the U.S. in a position of relying on foreign sources for future energy needs.

 

[Tiberius]

10 minutes ago, sherpa said:

 

And I am responding.

What is this new nonsense of people being angry.

You have no ability to make me angry in any way.

 

You are a phony.

You questioned me/accused me a couple of years ago.

I offered to pay thousands to the charity of your choice if I could not prove what I claimed.

You disappeared.

Never took the challenge. Never even responded.

 

You think a clown like you could ever cause anyone to be angry?

 

Not possible.

Get over yourself. You don't have the ability to make anyone "angry."

Nobody cares.

 

 

 

 

 

Oh boy

[BillStime]

2 hours ago, sherpa said:

I am not going to quote an idiotic post from Billsy as they take up far too much space, with all the useless cartoons and other items that are not self authored.

But....the claim that I am "angry" is idiotic.

Not angry at all.

 

Biden is a dysfunctional idiot.

Always has been.

A back burner Democrat that has no record of achievement beyond his totally false claims of his record of achievement, which even Democrats know are false.

 

His energy policies have waivered and are strictly political.

Impossible to deny that.

 

See, I told you.

 

This has everything to do with the fact that Biden is absolutely destroying Trump's legacy on energy - and that you are a pathetic and miserable MAGA nutter who can't handle the truth.

 

 

[sherpa]

4 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

 

 

This has everything to do with the fact that Biden is absolutely destroying Trump's legacy on energy - and that you are a pathetic and miserable MAGA nutter who can't handle the truth.

 

 

 

I'm doin' OK

[B-Man]

10 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

See, I told you.

 

This has everything to do with the fact that Biden is absolutely destroying Trump's legacy on energy - and that you are a pathetic and miserable MAGA nutter who can't handle the truth.

 

 

 

 

Billstime, you're getting your spittle all over the thread                                      

 

 

.

[BillStime]

Just now, B-Man said:

 

 

Billstime, you're getting your spittle all over the thread                                      

 

 

.

 

Awe, Bonnie - ouch - that hurts.... lmao

 

 

[BillStime]

 

[sherpa]

32 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

 

Look at the chart.

Look at production levels between Nov 2020 and March 2021.

I wonder what happened during that election to post inauguration period.

 

Then I wonder why it has steadily gone up since the covid recovery and political damage resulting from rapid increases in crude costs and the Russian invasion.

 

Actually, I don't wonder, and neither does anyone with a scintilla of knowledge of the energy markets and political policy.

[sherpa]

The entire Biden energy argument is designed for people who know nothing about his policy variances, or contradictory postures.

He campaigned on ending drilling.

Many videos of these statements.

 

He gets in office and overturns many pro energy policies by executive action.

 

Then........true to form from a career politician who has never held a real job, he gets his ass in a wringer when Russia invades the Ukraine and energy prices advance disproportionately to demand and polls start telling him people don't really like his energy stance.

 

Then....he goes to Saudi Arabia and pleas to them to raise production.

They do the opposite, so he asks them not to announce their planned production decreases until after the mid term elections.

 

Then......when nothing is working so far, he goes to the US energy industry and pleas for them to increase drilling, the exact thing he campaigned against, and put policies in effect to decrease, and tells them if they don't increase drilling he is going to charge them an excise tax on profits made because the cost has increased so much, and blames it all on them.

 

Now, after OPEC cuts production, he brags that the US production is higher.

 

This man is an economic/business illiterate, if not lunatic.  

 

I guess some people support this kind of ignorant policy insanity that makes it completely unpredictable to plan for long range projects.