Fezmid Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 I'm sure this thread will go well http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/06/06/scotus.m...a.ap/index.html CW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Wheels Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 This ruling is a great relief. We can't have people self-medicating with natural substances in this country. It is immoral, unnatural, and leads to stronger illegal drugs. Thank you Supreme Court for Standing Up for America! signed, the pharmaceutical industry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockpile Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 This says it all for me: "Under the Constitution, Congress may pass laws regulating a state's economic activity so long as it involves "interstate commerce" that crosses state borders. The California marijuana in question was homegrown, distributed to patients without charge and without crossing state lines." The Fed should BACK OFF! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 This says it all for me: "Under the Constitution, Congress may pass laws regulating a state's economic activity so long as it involves "interstate commerce" that crosses state borders. The California marijuana in question was homegrown, distributed to patients without charge and without crossing state lines." The Fed should BACK OFF! 352069[/snapback] The interstate commerce clause has been abused more than Paris Hilton's, um.. nevermind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch19079 Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 The interstate commerce clause has been abused more than Paris Hilton's, um.. nevermind. 352071[/snapback] pot is jsut as bad as alcohol, but not as deadly as cigarettes. why cant the government cahrge the doctor who perscribed the pot to begin with? but are there medical uses of pot? maybe. i know alot that would want to be in that study.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin in Va Beach Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 This says it all for me: "Under the Constitution, Congress may pass laws regulating a state's economic activity so long as it involves "interstate commerce" that crosses state borders. The California marijuana in question was homegrown, distributed to patients without charge and without crossing state lines." The Fed should BACK OFF! 352069[/snapback] Better still: Amendment X - The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. The judicial system (yes, I'm including the Supremes) has become a joke. They're making schit up as they go along now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 The interstate commerce clause died with the New Deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 The judicial system (yes, I'm including the Supremes) has become a joke. They're making schit up as they go along now... 352088[/snapback] Actually, the Supreme Court has been doing that since it's inception. Making it up as they go along is nothing new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 The Supreme Court is leaning on the legislature to enact the law that would permit medincinal use. This ruling by the court only makes it more likely that Congress will force NIDA (National Institute on Drug Abuse, primarily responsible for blocking medicinal marijuana research by refusing to provide its marijuana to FDA-approved scientists) to change its stance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 land of the free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 They need to smoke a bowl and chill out... But in all seriousness Marijuana can be used for a variety of illnesses and to not recognize its medicinal value is ridiculous. After I broke my wrist last year they gave me Tylenol 3 with codeine. After writhing in pain for 2 straight nights, and being denied by my doctor for a stronger pain reliever I decided to visit the local street pharmacist. The relief was enough to get threw those first few days of intense pain and that was that. No addiction, no immediate side effects, and no long term consequences. The only legit beef you could make is the negatives of smoke inhalation. But nowadays they make vaporizers so that doesn't even have to be an issue anymore. But I suppose it would be in the people’s best interests to prescribe more powerful unnatural drugs with very little information about their long term consequences. For once can't it be about the people and not the money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finknottle Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 The interstate commerce clause has been abused more than Paris Hilton's, um.. nevermind. 352071[/snapback] Not to split hairs, but nothing in the article (other than a reference to the constitution) suggested that the argument for federal jurisdiction was based on interstate commerce. It sounds to me like that was not the rational (but I don't know anything else about the ruling). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 familydoctor.com (a site obviously against marijuana) lists the side effects of marijuana as: # Trouble remembering things # Sleepiness # Anxiety # Paranoia (feeling that people are “out to get you”) # Altered time perception From Cancerhelp.org, the side effects of some of the cancer drugs I randomly picked from a list of hundreds: Fever Hair Loss Skin Rash Peeling of skin Sore Mouth Loss of appetite sensitivity to sun loss of fertility temporary damage to heart tissues loss of taste constipation inflamation of the lungs jaw pain depression difficulty emptying the bladder fatigue open sores in the mouth kidney damage My point? Well, I understand that Chemo is a potential cure and Marijuana is not. However, WHO THE HELL is the supreme court to tell people who have any or all of the side effects from cancer drugs (or just the pain from cancer(s) anyway) that they can't smoke a joint to make themselves feel better? A politician on the news tonight said "there's no medicinal herione, so there's no medicinal marijuana"... wow, this man needs to pick up a book, or maybe ever better, smoke a bowl. I quit smoking weed for good almost a year ago, but anyone who thinks it is more dangerous than alcohol is kidding themselves and has either never smoked it, or never been around people who have... sad, sad situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lothar Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Better still: Amendment X - The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. The judicial system (yes, I'm including the Supremes) has become a joke. They're making schit up as they go along now... 352088[/snapback] It's not often I find myself agreeing with any of Gavin's non-football posts, but Amen brother! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 this topic's already been on PPP, so i'll just go ahead and post the same thing here that i did there.... Well I don't know but I've been told, you never slow down, you never grow old. I'm tired of screwin' up, tired of goin' down, Tired of myself, tired of this town, Oh my, my, oh hell yes - Honey put on that party dress. Buy me a drink, sing me a song, Take me as I come . cause I can't stay long. Last dance with Mary Jane, one more time to kill the pain. I feel summer creepin' in and I'm tired of this town again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 A politician on the news tonight said "there's no medicinal herione, so there's no medicinal marijuana"... wow, this man needs to pick up a book, or maybe ever better, smoke a bowl. I quit smoking weed for good almost a year ago, but anyone who thinks it is more dangerous than alcohol is kidding themselves and has either never smoked it, or never been around people who have... sad, sad situation 352470[/snapback] Heroine? Jesus what is wrong with this guy. While equally dense it’s easier to compare alcohol and heroine then it is to compare marijuana and heroine. But their will always be those people, most completely lacking in life experiences and common sense, that classify all drugs as the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Heroine? Jesus what is wrong with this guy. While equally dense it’s easier to compare alcohol and heroine then it is to compare marijuana and heroine. But their will always be those people, most completely lacking in life experiences and common sense, that classify all drugs as the same. 352495[/snapback] theres no medicinal heroin? I guess that guy never heard of Oxycontin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BF_in_Indiana Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Ah.........another victory for the moral majority. I wonder how many of these people in the supreme court know someone with MS who only feels good if he's smoking marijuana. I do. The guy can barely walk and is in pain all the time and smokes weed to feel better. It works for him and I know it works for others with horrible diseases. Who the hell are these people to tell someone they can't ease their pain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 Ah.........another victory for the moral majority. I wonder how many of these people in the supreme court know someone with MS who only feels good if he's smoking marijuana. I do. The guy can barely walk and is in pain all the time and smokes weed to feel better. It works for him and I know it works for others with horrible diseases. Who the hell are these people to tell someone they can't ease their pain? 352513[/snapback] I bet if you polled the moral majority the vast majority would legalize marijuana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockpile Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 One of the medications I used to take for MS warned that if I was considering suicide, I should contact my doctor immediately. It required skin popping a drug that I had to mix myself, and was like taking an IV of the flu. It took almost three months to build a tolerance to the side effects. Another med I take now for anxiety and stress has made me a drug addict, and it will be a long and difficult withdrawal some day. I am not a regular pot smoker now, but back when I smoked a few hits every evening, I NEVER considered suicide, was not addicted, and the worse side effect was giggling at stupid things, understanding the words to that song from Pink Floyd's Umma Gumma (you know the one I mean), and a bad case of the munchies. Now THOSE are serious side effects. familydoctor.com (a site obviously against marijuana) lists the side effects of marijuana as: # Trouble remembering things # Sleepiness # Anxiety # Paranoia (feeling that people are “out to get you”) # Altered time perception From Cancerhelp.org, the side effects of some of the cancer drugs I randomly picked from a list of hundreds: Fever Hair Loss Skin Rash Peeling of skin Sore Mouth Loss of appetite sensitivity to sun loss of fertility temporary damage to heart tissues loss of taste constipation inflamation of the lungs jaw pain depression difficulty emptying the bladder fatigue open sores in the mouth kidney damage My point? Well, I understand that Chemo is a potential cure and Marijuana is not. However, WHO THE HELL is the supreme court to tell people who have any or all of the side effects from cancer drugs (or just the pain from cancer(s) anyway) that they can't smoke a joint to make themselves feel better? A politician on the news tonight said "there's no medicinal herione, so there's no medicinal marijuana"... wow, this man needs to pick up a book, or maybe ever better, smoke a bowl. I quit smoking weed for good almost a year ago, but anyone who thinks it is more dangerous than alcohol is kidding themselves and has either never smoked it, or never been around people who have... sad, sad situation 352470[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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