cgg716 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 I understand nickel is our base D, but how many times must one get shredded on the ground before you change it up sometimes? Or even just read a situation? Clappy calling his NBA time outs last night to act like he's making changes, winds up with 5"11 Johnson on 6"6 Waller, just lucky they didn't call the penalty. The lack of adjustments and awareness is mind numbing 2 2 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 1 minute ago, cgg716 said: I understand nickel is our base D, but how many times must one get shredded on the ground before you change it up sometimes? Or even just read a situation? Clappy calling his NBA time outs last night to act like he's making changes, winds up with 5"11 Johnson on 6"6 Waller, just lucky they didn't call the penalty. The lack of adjustments and awareness is mind numbing I love that you complained about getting shredded on the ground, then complained about Taron Johnson in coverage (despite TJ being the Bills leading tackler). Oh yeah, let's just throw out that 6'5" LB on the team who is great in coverage and against the run, why didn't McD think of that? There were 1 million valid things to complain about, and you missed them all. Excellent work. 3 1 2 11 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, cgg716 said: I understand nickel is our base D, but how many times must one get shredded on the ground before you change it up sometimes? Or even just read a situation? Clappy calling his NBA time outs last night to act like he's making changes, winds up with 5"11 Johnson on 6"6 Waller, just lucky they didn't call the penalty. The lack of adjustments and awareness is mind numbing Because McClappy thinks he is smarter than other coaches and thinks speed and quickness is the most important thing with a defense. Then gets ran all over when it matters most. We didn’t deserve to win last night. It was more about the Giants absolutely sucking vs the Bills playing well. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zag20 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 (edited) Related…watched the highlights today and saw Siran Neal in on the giants final drive, blitzing on 2 plays. Wonder what was going on there. Edited October 17, 2023 by Zag20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgg716 Posted October 17, 2023 Author Share Posted October 17, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, FireChans said: I love that you complained about getting shredded on the ground, then complained about Taron Johnson in coverage (despite TJ being the Bills leading tackler). Oh yeah, let's just throw out that 6'5" LB on the team who is great in coverage and against the run, why didn't McD think of that? There were 1 million valid things to complain about, and you missed them all. Excellent work. If your best tackler in the second level is 5'11 and 196, that might be why you're getting shredded. I get that the D is small by choice, but some of it is beyond dumb. Team will continue to be held back by absolutely dreadful philosophy and in game coaching Edited October 17, 2023 by cgg716 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Outside of 2 plays that gained 56 yards and only resulted in a FG, we held Barkley to 37 yards on 22 carries (1.7avg). And then shut that trap play down with a LB adjustment, and the RBs didnt gain a single yard the rest of the game. We didnt get shredded, and the defense isnt the problem. 7 7 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 The defense won us the game last night. They're not the problem. 4 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, cgg716 said: If your best tackler in the second level is 5'11 and 196, that might be why you're getting shredded. I get that the D is small by choice, but some of it is beyond dumb. Team will continue to be held back by absolutely dreadful philosophy and in game coaching Your solution is more Tyrel Dodson? I can't believe we got shredded yesterday allowing 9 points and 0/4 in the red zone. Good take again lmao. Edited October 17, 2023 by FireChans 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgg716 Posted October 17, 2023 Author Share Posted October 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, FireChans said: Your solution is more Tyrel Dodson? I can't believe we got shredded yesterday allowing 9 points and 0/4 in the red zone. Good take again lmao. Congratulations we stopped Tyrod and his usfl crew, who still moved the ball pretty effectively. I'm sure he'll be the January matchup, it's fine 6 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Outside of 2 plays that gained 56 yards and only resulted in a FG, we held Barkley to 37 yards on 22 carries (1.7avg). And then shut that trap play down with a LB adjustment, and the RBs didnt gain a single yard the rest of the game. We didnt get shredded, and the defense isnt the problem. People say this every year, then we play the heavyweights and get mauled, same warning signs are here, except this time it's even worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ManRaid Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Outside of 2 plays that gained 56 yards and only resulted in a FG, we held Barkley to 37 yards on 22 carries (1.7avg). And then shut that trap play down with a LB adjustment, and the RBs didnt gain a single yard the rest of the game. We didnt get shredded, and the defense isnt the problem. Same as when the sky was falling after losing to the Steelers in preseason. We got "shredded" by a team that did the bulk of their damage on 2 plays in short order, and Jack all the rest of the game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 11 minutes ago, Zag20 said: Related…watched the highlights today and saw Siran Neal in on the giants final drive, blitzing on 2 plays. Wonder what was going on there. Neal came in for Dime packages I believe. NYG weren't going to be running once they were out of timeouts, they had too far to go 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 My theory: Because they've never had three that are above-average starters ever since Lorax retired. Again, just a theory. But look at our roster for LBs from 2020 - 2022 and ask yourself which three would you start? That's why they run this goofy defense that no one else runs. I get that it's a passing league and we need to be able to stop the pass, but you cannot do that at the expense of the run. 5 minutes ago, cgg716 said: Congratulations we stopped Tyrod and his usfl crew, who still moved the ball pretty effectively. I'm sure he'll be the January matchup, it's fine People say this every year, then we play the heavyweights and get mauled, same warning signs are here, except this time it's even worse Agreed. And seriously, this "they only had two big plays, one for a TD and the other setting one up, otherwise they didn't do anything" thing, ... really? LOL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, cgg716 said: Congratulations we stopped Tyrod and his usfl crew, who still moved the ball pretty effectively. I'm sure he'll be the January matchup, it's fine People say this every year, then we play the heavyweights and get mauled, same warning signs are here, except this time it's even worse So did we stop them or did we get shredded? You are spinning off the planet right now. Just log off bro. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgg716 Posted October 17, 2023 Author Share Posted October 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, PBF81 said: My theory: Because they've never had three that are above-average starters ever since Lorax retired. Again, just a theory. But look at our roster for LBs from 2020 - 2022 and ask yourself which three would you start? That's why they run this goofy defense that no one else runs. I get that it's a passing league and we need to be able to stop the pass, but you cannot do that at the expense of the run. An idea then, get one, instead of 7 rotating DTs lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, PBF81 said: My theory: Because they've never had three that are above-average starters ever since Lorax retired. Again, just a theory. But look at our roster for LBs from 2020 - 2022 and ask yourself which three would you start? That's why they run this goofy defense that no one else runs. I get that it's a passing league and we need to be able to stop the pass, but you cannot do that at the expense of the run. But that is the EXACT trade off you make in this passing league. You absolutely allow some runs in order to shut down the pass. Running doesnt score points, and points are the only stat that matters at the end of the game. We have the 6th overall Defense, we are 5th in fewest points allowed, but like 26th in rushing yards allowed. Down there right above the Jets and their heralded defense as well. Stopping the pass wins games. Our Defense isnt the problem. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgg716 Posted October 17, 2023 Author Share Posted October 17, 2023 1 minute ago, FireChans said: So did we stop them or did we get shredded? You are spinning off the planet right now. Just log off bro. Happens EVERY year. EVERY year, the defense is USELESS. Despite all the capital poured in and a defensive coach. And people in here are like, look at the offense. You mean the one with no resources and the one that just waits for Allen and Diggs to make it happen. Your offense problems are 100 percent a philosophical choice by McBean. And the defense has never once backed up that choice. Generational talent wasted on a bad coach 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyBoy Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 cgg716 on a mobile, go ahead... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, cgg716 said: An idea then, get one, instead of 7 rotating DTs lol You're preaching to the choir. But criticizing the one that conducts our drafts is frowned upon here. LOL 2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Our Defense isnt the problem. In the playoffs it's been the problem. 13-Seconds comes to mind. For sure an offense that put up 36 regulation points wasn't the problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyBoy Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Just now, PBF81 said: You're preaching to the choir. But criticizing the one that conducts our drafts is frowned upon here. LOL What are your thoughts on Skip Bayless? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 1 minute ago, cgg716 said: Happens EVERY year. EVERY year, the defense is USELESS. Despite all the capital poured in and a defensive coach. And people in here are like, look at the offense. You mean the one with no resources and the one that just waits for Allen and Diggs to make it happen. Your offense problems are 100 percent a philosophical choice by McBean. And the defense has never once backed up that choice. Generational talent wasted on a bad coach Did we stop them or did we get shredded? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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