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Israel and the Slaughter in Gaza


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2 hours ago, Tiberius said:

Any civilians killed? 

Who cares. Hamas started this.  Killed plenty.  
 

 

1 hour ago, Wacka said:

Now THAT is twisted.

What did they do with the money?  For the singing lessons.   Horrible. Some of those dudes look like broads and vice-versa.  Make a train take a detour. What a mess.  
 

 

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3 hours ago, Tiberius said:

Any civilians killed? 

 

I understand you don't want civilians killed in war and that is noble.

 

Not trying to justify it, but bottom line: if the USA and her allies did not kill civilians in WWII, you'd be speaking German now.

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21 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Interesting that IS would take responsibility and not keep quiet and let Iran think it was the US and/or Israel.

I had the same reaction.

 

Then again, ISIS isn't exactly a bunch of rocket scientists. 

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12 hours ago, Tiberius said:

Is it an a war of conquest then? 

 

 

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-12-31/ty-article/100-200-000-not-two-million-israels-finance-minister-envisions-depopulated-gaza/0000018c-bfe8-d6c4-ab8d-fffc0b910000 

 

Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich said that Israel must control the territory in the Gaza Strip and significantly reduce the number of Palestinian residents in Gaza.

In an interview to army radio, the far-right minister said that his "demand" was for the Gaza Strip to stop being a "hotbed where two million people grow up on hatred and aspire to destroy the State of Israel."

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Without outlining his preferred method, Smotrich then suggested that the removal of around 90 percent of Gaza's residents would help achieve his goal. "If there are 100,000 or 200,000 Arabs in Gaza and not two million, the whole discourse about the day after will be different," he said.

This is their goal. Displacement and genocide. They’re not hiding it anymore. 

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13 hours ago, reddogblitz said:

 

I understand you don't want civilians killed in war and that is noble.

 

Not trying to justify it, but bottom line: if the USA and her allies did not kill civilians in WWII, you'd be speaking German now.

Germany would have taken over the USA? Ya right 

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@Irv won't like this 

 

 

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/01/05/world/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news#israels-defense-minister-floats-a-plan-for-the-day-after-the-war

 

 

As Secretary of State Antony J. Blinken headed back to the Middle East on Friday in the latest U.S. effort to ease regional tensions, a new postwar plan floated by Israel’s defense minister has laid bare the divisions in Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s government over “the day after” fighting in Gaza ends.

The proposal by Defense Minister Yoav Gallant, a moderate member of Mr. Netanyahu’s right-wing Likud party, was widely seen as a trial balloon, but it showed the pressure the prime minister was facing as Washington and others press for a shift to a less intense phase of the war.

The Biden administration wants Israel to plan for “the day after,” meaning how Gaza will be governed when fighting ends, though analysts say that to keep his far-right allies from leaving his governing coalition, Mr. Netanyahu has delayed any serious domestic discussion or diplomatic effort around such a plan.

Mr. Gallant’s proposal shared on Thursday at a meeting of the Israeli security cabinet is predicated on the military defeat of Hamas. It calls for maintaining Israel’s military control of Gaza’s borders, while a “multinational task force” oversees reconstruction and economic development in the territory.

Under his plan, Gazan Palestinians who do not have ties to Hamas, which the United States and European countries have designated as a terror organization, would administer civilian affairs in the Gaza Strip, according to details of the cabinet meeting leaked to Israeli media. But there would be no role for the Palestinian Authority that runs the occupied West Bank, and there would be no resettlement of Israelis in Gaza.

Mr. Gallant’s proposal appeared to be an effort to stake out middle ground. It rules out involvement of the Palestinian Authority, which exercises authority in parts of the West Bank, in administering Gaza after the war. The Biden administration has called for the authority to play a postwar role in the territory, viewing it as a path toward a two-state solution that would create a Palestinian state consisting of both Gaza and the West Bank, which many politicians on the Israeli right oppose.

But the Gallant plan also rules out resettling Gaza with Israelis, an idea that far-right Israelis espouse.

In recent days, Itamar Ben-Gvir, the national security minister, and Bezalel Smotrich, the finance minister, have advanced the idea of encouraging Gazans to voluntarily emigrate to countries willing to grant them entry. The State Department sharply rebuked the comments, issuing a statement that criticized both by name and called their comments “inflammatory and irresponsible.”

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Isreal in talks with Congo? 

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As Israeli news outlets have reported, Netanyahu said this week that the government is considering a “scenario of surrender and deportation” of residents of the Gaza Strip. According to a Times of Israel article, “The ‘voluntary’ resettlement of Palestinians from Gaza is slowly becoming a key official policy of the government, with a senior official saying that Israel has held talks with several countries for their potential absorption.”

 

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-01-03/ty-article-live/hezbollah-threatens-israel-after-top-hamas-official-al-arouri-killed-in-beirut/0000018c-ccf4-d266-a9bf-edf645660000?liveBlogItemId=115222998&utm_source=site&utm_medium=button&utm_campaign=live_blog_item#_blank

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-in-talks-with-congo-and-other-countries-on-gaza-voluntary-migration-plan/

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Oceana has always been at war with Eurasia 

 

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/israel-s-talk-of-expanding-war-to-lebanon-alarms-us/ar-AA1mzBk3

 

U.S. officials are concerned that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu may see an expanded fight in Lebanon as key to his political survival amid domestic criticism of his government’s failure to prevent Hamas’s Oct. 7 attack, which killed an estimated 1,200 people and resulted in some 240 hostages being taken to Gaza.

In private conversations, the administration has warned Israel against a significant escalation in Lebanon. If it were to do so, a new secret assessment from the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) found that it will be difficult for Israel Defense Forces (IDF) to succeed because its military assets and resources would be spread too thin given the conflict in Gaza, according to two people familiar with those findings. A spokesperson for the DIA did not offer comment.

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