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5 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

As a guy who lives in a State with a permanent one party legislature, you’d all better hope the same doesn’t happen with the federal government. It’s a recipe for disaster. 

my hope would be that the R's change by necessity to accommodate the demographic changes.  I think they have made some inroads in Calif have they not? In general, aren't Calif R's more moderate (x McCarthy)?

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4 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

my hope would be that the R's change by necessity to accommodate the demographic changes.  I think they have made some inroads in Calif have they not? In general, aren't Calif R's more moderate (x McCarthy)?

Nothing has been moderated here. It’s moving more Left all the time. Soon there’ll be no middle class remaining. They’re all getting out of here like rats deserting a ship. 

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3 hours ago, redtail hawk said:

i agree with this:  https://www.democracydocket.com/news-alerts/pennsylvania-supreme-court-upholds-no-excuse-mail-in-voting-law/

Wisconsin will do what Wisconsin will do.  so I agree. it doesn't appear it can be appealed. as I said, voter suppression will be part of the strategy to overcome the demographic disadvantage.  I don't believe it will be enough

and?  the demographics still favor D's even with the EC in place.  the linked piece is predicated on it.  so your not going to clarify the eye roll comment on culture wars and white supremacy?  it's just a meaningless comment?

Of course you support mob rule when you think you are the majority.  

1 hour ago, redtail hawk said:

my hope would be that the R's change by necessity to accommodate the demographic changes.  I think they have made some inroads in Calif have they not? In general, aren't Calif R's more moderate (x McCarthy)?

Like get back to individual rights I've the rights of corps or the mob.      Right now they just cater to the same quintile. 

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29 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

Of course you support mob rule when you think you are the majority.  

Like get back to individual rights I've the rights of corps or the mob.      Right now they just cater to the same quintile. 

mob rule?  what are you talking about?  elections are mob rule?  what quintile?  income quintile?

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6 hours ago, BillStime said:

 

He can't... lolz.

 

Demographics are not on the cults side, and they know it.

 

Young people showed in record numbers and will continue to do so... Americans and young people specially, are tired of the MAGA fringe.  It's a dying party and they know it - just look at their desperation.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And look at this younger generation ! They are the ones that would rather become the best gamers or computer programers in the world to find one that will actually get off their ass & do what use to be known as a respectable job is near impossible . Oh and that's why they don't mind a open boarder because they are LAZY !! 

 

So to say the world as we knew it is going to hell in a hand basket is a complete understatement . But that's what you think is a good thing Holy S**T hang on to your hats because it's only going to get worse before it gets better if the numbers are true !! 

 

 

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7 hours ago, redtail hawk said:

so refute the article, chief.  is the math wrong?

The quickest growing segment of our population is Hispanics and Hispanics are now pretty much evenly split after being 60+% Dem a decade ago. The Republicans this go round got millions more votes then Dems, so any prognostication is fraught with current info being expanded improperly. 

 

 

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24 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said:

The quickest growing segment of our population is Hispanics and Hispanics are now pretty much evenly split after being 60+% Dem a decade ago. The Republicans this go round got millions more votes then Dems, so any prognostication is fraught with current info being expanded improperly. 

 

 

looks pretty stable nationally https://www.as-coa.org/articles/chart-how-us-latinos-voted-2020-presidential-election. obviously geographic differences as expected eg Cubans in Fla supporting R's

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44 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

looks pretty stable nationally https://www.as-coa.org/articles/chart-how-us-latinos-voted-2020-presidential-election. obviously geographic differences as expected eg Cubans in Fla supporting R's

Imagine arguing with 2020 data when 2022 data is readily available. I had to go 8 links deep to find one from a liberal source but they pretty much all day similar things, more red in future for Latinos 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/rcna57553

 

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Did I miss where Florida got “whiter?”

 

Lol

 

Good candidates and an actual plan that makes soft independents feel safe and not that they’re voting for “crazy” Doc Oz or an “extremist” in Arizona.  
 


Once Hispanics continue to assimilate and realize Ds are anti Christian bigots and communists they come around.  
 

And deep blue states are getting purple.  
 

Only low info racist elitist whites that do what CNN tells them remains in places like Michigan, New York, and Pennsylvania.  
 

Once they die out or retire to Florida they’ll go red.  For a long time.  


 

Trump has been made so toxic - it’s an absolute miracle Ds have barely won anywhere.  But they lost the House. 
 

They are losing groomer school boards everywhere.  
 

Once the GOP is clear of Lockdown Don (already happening) they won’t be able to run on “Orange man bad” anymore.  
 

Not that that works really.  
 

Governor Youngkin says hi!

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Oh also - the core Democrat voter doesn’t reproduce.  
 

Part of their desperate attempt to get immigrants here en masse.  
 

In 15 years Rs are going to be comfortably winning the WH and you’ll be asking how did Ds blow the electoral map of 2020.  
 

That’s going to be a major reason why.  

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2 hours ago, T master said:

 

And look at this younger generation ! They are the ones that would rather become the best gamers or computer programers in the world to find one that will actually get off their ass & do what use to be known as a respectable job is near impossible . Oh and that's why they don't mind a open boarder because they are LAZY !! 

 

So to say the world as we knew it is going to hell in a hand basket is a complete understatement . But that's what you think is a good thing Holy S**T hang on to your hats because it's only going to get worse before it gets better if the numbers are true !! 

 

 


Wait - you’re upset that your party doesn’t appeal to the youth vote? Have you maybe asked yourself why?

 

Have you seen what your party is focused on?

 

Just look at the Governor of the armpit of America?

 

That is not a winning ticket - no matter what @Doc and @B-Man tell you.

 

Seek help 

 

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, Orlando Tim said:

Imagine arguing with 2020 data when 2022 data is readily available. I had to go 8 links deep to find one from a liberal source but they pretty much all day similar things, more red in future for Latinos 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/rcna57553

 

the nbc article uses a politico article to justify their number of Hispanic increase to R.  here's what it says:  The exit polls included more than 15,000 respondents with a margin of error of plus or minus 2 points, with higher margins for subgroups. Exit polls are preliminary, some states are still counting votes and more complex reports likely won’t be available for months. But the numbers provide the best early look at how people of color voted this election — and why.

 

The numbers I provided use actual vote counts from 2020 which are available.  in addition Fla is mentioned in the politico piece.  As shown in the 2020 data, that population is an outlier in part, due to the cuban presence.

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1 hour ago, B-Man said:

Quick reminder:

 

NY Times: Increase in Diversity not going way Democrats hoped

 

 

from the nyt article:  In 2020, Democrats probably won around 60 to 65 percent of voters across these demographic groups. These are substantial margins, but they are small enough that even decades of demographic shifts wind up costing the Republicans only a couple of percentage points.

 

so, the numbers used were the same as in the original linked piece but the conclusions were different. in part because not looked at Fla and Texas as important in that changes there were less than expected for nonwhite voters.  these states were conceded as red in the original linked article and are both notable outliers for minority voters preferences.

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11 hours ago, redtail hawk said:

looks pretty stable nationally https://www.as-coa.org/articles/chart-how-us-latinos-voted-2020-presidential-election. obviously geographic differences as expected eg Cubans in Fla supporting R's

Crazy how people they fled communism don't want what the left is selling.  

 

And you had the last reply at nyt.  That's like referencing Breitbart 

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