Billy Claude Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Well, the guy hasn't thrown an interception in 3 years. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 11 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: He did have that perfect TD pass to Zay Jones to take the lead against Houston…. Only to give it right back with a pick 6 to seal it for them. 👌🏻 I was there 🤦🏻♂️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 45 minutes ago, Sheneneh Jenkins said: I'm just wondering how anyone would care all that much about this. And how Nate Paterman getting cut has gotten 5 pages of attention lol This topic is made possible by viewers like you... 😊 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 6 hours ago, Bills2022 said: He did. People forget Allen go hurt in year 1. Many thought he had a Tommy John type injury. What Peterman did was take some of the beating Josh would have taken, especially against the Ravens in week 1. The Bills were awful in Allen's first year. Their receivers could not get separation and the line could not block. Nate took one for the team. Even Josh had more interceptions than TD's in 2018. Offense was atrocious. It all worked out for Allen. Thanks in a small part to Peterman. 😀 Nate why don't you post on Bears Boards? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freak-O Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, prissythecat said: Anyone who is good at their job would take offense at being told that they are worse than a guy who makes way below the average annual salary in his profession. I should also point out that Peterman is statistically the worst QB to play in NFL in modern history. https://dailysnark.com/2018/11/13/nathan-peterman-finishes-with-worse-qb-rating-than-if-he-just-spiked-ball-into-ground-every-play-of-his-career/ Here is a quote for you to savor : "Nathan Peterman finishes his tenure with the Bills with a lower QB rating than if he simply spiked the ball straight into the ground on every play of his career." Imagine being so bad that your stats could be improved by just throwing the ball into the dirt every play. He’s good enough to still have a place in the NFL after all these years. How many of all the people who play football ever make it there? Extremely few. He also earns pretty well and I’m sure his life is quite sweet. You can mock him all you want but he would never trade his career for yours. Edited September 3, 2022 by Freak-O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Freak-O said: He’s good enough to still have a place in the NFL after all these years. How many of all the people who play football ever make it there? Extremely few. He also earns pretty well and I’m sure his life is quite sweet. You can mock him all you want but he would never trade his career for yours. He’s not good enough!! Lol, he isn’t a threat to anyone around him and knows the playbook. He’s a good guy. They cut him and added him back to the practice squad. It’s the same thing that teams do to Davis Webb and Matt Barkley. “You aren’t here to play. You aren’t capable of that. You’re here to be a nice guy and help in meetings.” Peterman is a homeless man’s Davis Webb. He’s Davis Webb for the 2nd worst roster in football. Edited September 3, 2022 by Kirby Jackson 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: He’s not good enough!! Lol, he isn’t a threat to anyone around him and knows the playbook. He’s a good guy. They cut him and added him back to the practice squad. It’s the same thing that teams do to Davis Webb and Matt Barkley. “You aren’t here to play. You aren’t capable of that. You’re here to be a nice guy and help in meetings.” Peterman is a homeless man’s Davis Webb. He’s Davis Webb for the 2nd worst roster in football. How can you forget the Snow Game! Nate was a legend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freak-O Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: He’s not good enough!! Lol, he isn’t a threat to anyone around him and knows the playbook. He’s a good guy. They cut him and added him back to the practice squad. It’s the same thing that teams do to Davis Webb and Matt Barkley. “You aren’t here to play. You aren’t capable of that. You’re here to be a nice guy and help in meetings.” Peterman is a homeless man’s Davis Webb. He’s Davis Webb for the 2nd worst roster in football. He was good enough to get drafted and is good enough to still have some sort of function on a team. He’s really bad by NFL standards but just reaching the NFL and staying there for several years is something very, very few athletes manage to achieve. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Freak-O said: He was good enough to get drafted and is good enough to still have some sort of function on a team. He’s really bad by NFL standards but just reaching the NFL and staying there for several years is something very, very few athletes manage to achieve. He shouldn’t have been drafted. He WASN’T good enough for that but he was drafted. If you went back and redrafted that year there’s NO chance that we would be selected. That’s what we call a mistake. He’s not the 1st or last guy in that scenario. There are hundreds, if not thousands, of guys that could have accomplished more than him if given the opportunity instead. He’s made $4.8M and they haven’t. That doesn’t mean that he was EVER better. It means people THOUGHT that he was so they gave him an opportunity to prove it. He failed, epically. There is nothing but regret from everyone that gave him that opportunity. Don’t get that confused. He is good enough to coach. That’s what he is now. He’s a de facto “assistant QB coach.” If Fields ever goes down the Bears will bring in someone else to backup Siemian. Nate will continue to help everyone grasp the offense. The plan isn’t to “play in an emergency.” He will never play again (in a meaningful game). Edited September 3, 2022 by Kirby Jackson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 8 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: He shouldn’t have been drafted. He WASN’T good enough for that but he was drafted. If you went back and redrafted that year there’s NO chance that we would be selected. That’s what we call a mistake. He’s not the 1st or last guy in that scenario. There are hundreds, if not thousands, of guys that could have accomplished more than him if given the opportunity instead. He’s made $4.8M and they haven’t. That doesn’t mean that he was EVER better. It means people THOUGHT that he was so they gave him an opportunity to prove it. He failed, epically. There is nothing but regret from everyone that gave him that opportunity. Don’t get that confused. He is good enough to coach. That’s what he is now. He’s a de facto “assistant QB coach.” If Fields ever goes down the Bears will bring in someone else to backup Siemian. Nate will continue to help everyone grasp the offense. The plan isn’t to “play in an emergency.” He will never play again (in a meaningful game). Don't get me wrong, he sucks by starting QB standards (possibly the worst game 1 starter in NFL history), and we get that you absolutely hate him, but to say he doesn't deserve to be in the NFL and there are "thousands of guys" as good or better than him is wrong. He earned the right the same as any other player who made it to the top level. Everything he showed us during camp and preseason during his first two years said that this was a guy who was going to be, at worst, a capable backup in the NFL. Obviously, when the regular season bullets began to fly, his brain seemed to malfunction and you clearly couldn't put him on the field for more than a series or two (if that) before he became rattled and began vomiting the ball over to the opponent. I don't want him on this team ever again, but I don't doubt that he can serve some purpose as a mentor and practice arm in the mold of Barkley - another guy who has been kept around with zero intention of him ever seeing the field. Again, I agree with you that he was absolutely horrible when he saw the field in the regular season. There is no denying that - both stats and eyeballs confirmed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 6 hours ago, Freak-O said: You can mock him all you want but he would never trade his career for yours. 3 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: Peterman is a homeless man’s Davis Webb. He’s Davis Webb for the 2nd worst roster in football. 🤣 For context, AJ McCarron (who's currently not an NFL player) "earned" about $15.6 million over 8 years. That's some serious clipboard holding excellence!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said: Don't get me wrong, he sucks by starting QB standards (possibly the worst game 1 starter in NFL history), and we get that you absolutely hate him, but to say he doesn't deserve to be in the NFL and there are "thousands of guys" as good or better than him is wrong. He earned the right the same as any other player who made it to the top level. Everything he showed us during camp and preseason during his first two years said that this was a guy who was going to be, at worst, a capable backup in the NFL. Obviously, when the regular season bullets began to fly, his brain seemed to malfunction and you clearly couldn't put him on the field for more than a series or two (if that) before he became rattled and began vomiting the ball over to the opponent. I don't want him on this team ever again, but I don't doubt that he can serve some purpose as a mentor and practice arm in the mold of Barkley - another guy who has been kept around with zero intention of him ever seeing the field. Again, I agree with you that he was absolutely horrible when he saw the field in the regular season. There is no denying that - both stats and eyeballs confirmed. There are lots of college QBs that could have accomplished what he did. LOTS and if you take all of the years of LOTS of guys you may reach 1,000. Nothing he showed, said capable backup. He wasn’t. They WANTED him to be that. They were wrong. He was a waste of a pick. He was a waste of resources. He’s a nice guy. All of that is true. I believe that. I believe every QB in the USFL, XFL, CFL, etc… could have done what he’s done. He’s the worst ever. How many guys that didn’t get a chance could have been that bad? He didn’t “earn” the right. He was “given” the opportunity. Don’t confuse those 2. Is it crazy to think that Joe Licata from UB could have done what Nate did? That’s the kind of guy that I’m talking about. Just throw a dart at a random college QB in the last decade and they could have been better. That doesn’t mean that they would have ever been good. It doesn’t mean that they all deserved NFL spots. It just means that they could have been better than Nate. That’s the point. He got the opportunity. They didn’t. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 36 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: There are lots of college QBs that could have accomplished what he did. LOTS and if you take all of the years of LOTS of guys you may reach 1,000. Nothing he showed, said capable backup. He wasn’t. They WANTED him to be that. They were wrong. He was a waste of a pick. He was a waste of resources. He’s a nice guy. All of that is true. I believe that. I believe every QB in the USFL, XFL, CFL, etc… could have done what he’s done. He’s the worst ever. How many guys that didn’t get a chance could have been that bad? He didn’t “earn” the right. He was “given” the opportunity. Don’t confuse those 2. Is it crazy to think that Joe Licata from UB could have done what Nate did? That’s the kind of guy that I’m talking about. Just throw a dart at a random college QB in the last decade and they could have been better. That doesn’t mean that they would have ever been good. It doesn’t mean that they all deserved NFL spots. It just means that they could have been better than Nate. That’s the point. He got the opportunity. They didn’t. I know you feel passionately about your position, but I disagree (and I really don't care about Nate or how he's perceived). It wasn't about the team WANTING him to be anything. We didn't have a great QB situation at the time and Peterman went out and won those jobs with his preseason play. Check out his preseason stats from his first three years, especially his second year where he earned the starting nod (and at that time the team didn't WANT him to be anything which is why they drafted Josh and signed McCarron). https://www.footballdb.com/players/nathan-peterman-peterna01 Thousands of guys wouldn't have outplayed Josh and McCarron or put up those types of preseason stats...lol. That is just such ridiculous hyperbole, I can't let it slide. Look around the NFL at the preseason QBs chucking it around in the 3rd and 4th quarters of those games. There are some absolutely horrid guys out there by NFL standards that are getting shots to put themselves on film. Nate was a mistake in that he didn't work out for the Bills, but you can say the same of 95% of QBs drafted in the 4th round or lower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: He didn’t “earn” the right. He was “given” the opportunity. Don’t confuse those 2. Is it crazy to think that Joe Licata from UB could have done what Nate did? That’s the kind of guy that I’m talking about. Just throw a dart at a random college QB in the last decade and they could have been better. That doesn’t mean that they would have ever been good. It doesn’t mean that they all deserved NFL spots. It just means that they could have been better than Nate. That’s the point. He got the opportunity. They didn’t. Another comparable is Kevin Hogan who had an excellent career at Stanford, and has the brains but not the arm to play the position. He was a 5th rounder for the KC Chiefs. In 7 seasons (he's not currently an active NFL player) he's made $2.6 million. In my eyes he's a better player than Peterman but quite a bit of career longevity is being in the right place at the right time. This means making good career decisions but also, having a little bit of luck too. And that's the same for most of our careers... decision making + luck = quality of career 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 On 8/30/2022 at 8:03 PM, Bills2022 said: Chicago is releasing quarterback Nathan Peterman, according to Ian Rapoport of NFL Media. But the Bears do intend to bring Peterman back for their practice squad as their third quarterback. Peterman will earn between 15K-20K per week on the practice squad because he is a Veteran. 300-400K a year to be on an NFL roster. Peterman has a great life. My guess is he will be on some NFL coaching staff one day. Smart guy. As said by many, 4.8M already, now this. Wow. Kids, strive to be a 3rd stringer backup QB! Good for your health, best game ticket in the house, and you get the mullah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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