Former President Trump's Personal Attorney Rudy Giuliani Has Apartment Searched by the Feds

[BillStime]

 

[BillStime]

 

[Governor]

Someone yesterday posted something about a Hunter HD and kiddy porn etc……

 

I just want that person to know that those types of accusations are really weird for anyone that’s outside of that right-wing Twitter news bubble. Pedo stuff isn’t “American” politics and anyone that’s ever followed politics or worked in politics knows that and it’s a huge red flag to be echoing that kind of stuff. Smears like that only happen in Russian, Ukrainian elections, etc. 

 

Just throwing that out there.
 

 

[B-Man]

On 4/30/2021 at 12:06 PM, BillStime said:

 

 

17 hours ago, The Governor said:

 

 

 

Hahahahahahahahaha.

 

WaPo runs ‘major retraction’ for story on FBI, OAN and Rudy Giuliani (NY Times stealth edited theirs)

 

Another day brings with it more retractions and corrections from a media outlet.

 

First up is the Washington Post, and it’s in regards to a story that reported the FBI issued warnings to OAN and Rudy Giuliani that they were being targeted by a Russia disinformation campaign ahead of the November election.

 

 

 

But, as we’re quite used to, the original story containing the “fake news” got amplified immediately

 

 

 

[Q-baby!]

2 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

Hahahahahahahahaha.

 

WaPo runs ‘major retraction’ for story on FBI, OAN and Rudy Giuliani (NY Times stealth edited theirs)

 

Another day brings with it more retractions and corrections from a media outlet.

 

First up is the Washington Post, and it’s in regards to a story that reported the FBI issued warnings to OAN and Rudy Giuliani that they were being targeted by a Russia disinformation campaign ahead of the November election.

 

 

 

But, as we’re quite used to, the original story containing the “fake news” got amplified immediately

 

 

 

Wow, did you actually just type one of your own words? Congrats!!!!! 

[SoTier]

On 4/28/2021 at 1:40 PM, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Your clue:

A job that’s even worse than being a cop

 

What is Attorney for sleazy Don? 

 

 

 

👍  +10

[Unforgiven]

12 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

Hahahahahahahahaha.

 

WaPo runs ‘major retraction’ for story on FBI, OAN and Rudy Giuliani (NY Times stealth edited theirs)

 

Another day brings with it more retractions and corrections from a media outlet.

 

First up is the Washington Post, and it’s in regards to a story that reported the FBI issued warnings to OAN and Rudy Giuliani that they were being targeted by a Russia disinformation campaign ahead of the November election.

 

 

 

But, as we’re quite used to, the original story containing the “fake news” got amplified immediately

 

 

 

Won't see a retraction that the feds wanted nothing to do with hunter biden evidence,

probably the single true fact of this whole story.

[B-Man]

Fake News: New York Times, WaPo, NBC forced to retract false claims about Giuliani

New York Post, by Kathianne Boniello

 

The New York Times, Washington Post and NBC News all issued retractions Saturday for their coverage of Rudy Giuliani following a raid of his Manhattan apartment by the FBI. The Times appended their correction to a story about the role Giuliani may have played in the 2019 recall of ambassador Marie L. Yovanovitch and whether he received a warning from the FBI about Russian disinformation. “An earlier version of this article misstated whether Rudolph W. Giuliani received a formal warning from the F.B.I. about Russian disinformation. Mr. Giuliani did not receive such a so-called defensive briefing,” The Times wrote Saturday

 

https://nypost.com/2021/05/01/new-york-times-wapo-nbc-forced-to-retract-false-claims-about-giuliani/

 

 

[Governor]

2 hours ago, Unforgiven said:

Won't see a retraction that the feds wanted nothing to do with hunter biden evidence,

probably the single true fact of this whole story.

You should be realizing at this point that there is no Hunter Biden evidence or HD, etc.

[Melon]

4 minutes ago, The Governor said:

You should be realizing at this point that there is no Hunter Biden evidence or HD, etc.

 

Q showed the evidence to Unforgiven, though.

 

_________

 

Does the FBI have to take back their raid because the FAKENEWSMEDIA misreported something?

[Governor]

19 minutes ago, Melon said:

 

Q showed the evidence to Unforgiven, though.

 

_________

 

Does the FBI have to take back their raid because the FAKENEWSMEDIA misreported something?

If you can’t figure out that the Hunter Biden stuff was just a smear prior to the election, then you’ve got some serious problems.

 

There is no “competing” investigations here. Rudy is screwed over his finances and that’s been known for quite awhile now.

 

5 years later and these rubes are still creating fake competing investigations to distract people.

23 minutes ago, Melon said:

 

Q showed the evidence to Unforgiven, though.

 

_________

 

Does the FBI have to take back their raid because the FAKENEWSMEDIA misreported something?

Yes. B-man would like you to think that a retraction on a tiny part of the story means the ENTIRE thing is fake. LMAO.

 

Such juvenile tactics. Trumpism is over people. Wake up!

[B-Man]

 

 

It was another example of an important news outlet having to retract a major news story, as Bonchie reported yesterday, when The Washington Post had to retract its prior claim that both Rudy Giuliani and the news network One America News had been informed by the FBI that they had part of a Russian disinformation campaign. “This version has been corrected to remove assertions that OAN and Giuliani received the warnings,” the outlet says in part of its retraction.

 

This was clearly a coordinated hit being made by The Post, evidenced by the timing; the initial report was made midweek to land in busy news cycles, while the wan correction is made in the weekend lull of low news consumption. Now there have been follow-up retractions seen, one coming from the New York Times, and a second being made by NBC News. These are deeply revealing because both outlets are not dismissing their culpability by saying their position was based on the Post report. 

 

Both The Times and NBC have to walk back their claims of independently corroborating the report with their own sourcing and investigation. This exposes the game being played with more frequency in the press, as major outlets gather up in tandem being a breaking story and provide what are claimed to be independently verified versions of the same account, when the probability is they are operating off of the same source(s). This is not corroboration, it is coordination, which leads instead to a collective version of Wiley E. Coyote bombs exploding in their faces.

 

The Times had to admit, “An earlier version of this article misstated whether Rudolph W. Giuliani received a formal warning from the F.B.I. about Russian disinformation. Mr. Giuliani did not receive such a so-called defensive briefing.” 

 

As for NBC, they too had to tuck a tail under their hindquarters, saying their report, “was based on a source familiar with the matter, but a second source now says the briefing was only prepared for Giuliani and not delivered to him, in part over concerns it might complicate the criminal investigation of Giuliani.”

 

To get a sense of just how significant this fraudulent effort becomes, we rely on none other than Brian Stelter. CNN’s media analyst is always reticent to be overly critical of major news outlets engaging in false information. If it is not Fox News delivering fake news then he is more apt to either play defense, or not acknowledge the issue at all. For him to note this media malpractice means it is too big of a problem for even him to ignore.

 

This has become the methodology seen from the news leaders over the past year, where multiple outlets claim to have separately verified a story. Recall when The Atlantic came out during the campaign with the story of the President allegedly calling dead soldiers ‘’losers’’ during a European trip. A number of sources backed up this bogus story with shameful results. In January The Post again looked ridiculous when it was exposed to have lied about Trump’s phone call to Georgia election officials. CNN also had to backtrack from the story, as they claimed to have also corroborated the falsified claims.

 

This is not a case of a lone outlet making a “mistake”, and rectifying an error later, with follow up stories from others correcting the record. Each case of these outlets altering their story is a major retraction, as they all claimed to have done the work and nailed down the facts on the story — and all are now exposed for having engaged in a coordination to push out a false story, bolstering the “facts” by lending their names behind the story. 

 

This is not a major news retraction — it is numerous major retractions. It is also exposing the desire to push false narratives through a gameplan from which they all work. We are looking at a classic case of the press manufacturing a news story across numerous outlets.

 

 

https://redstate.com/bradslager/2021/05/02/the-giuliani-walkback-gets-worse-and-exposes-collusion-in-mainstream-press-n372938

 

 

[All_Pro_Bills]

3 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

It was another example of an important news outlet having to retract a major news story, as Bonchie reported yesterday, when The Washington Post had to retract its prior claim that both Rudy Giuliani and the news network One America News had been informed by the FBI that they had part of a Russian disinformation campaign. “This version has been corrected to remove assertions that OAN and Giuliani received the warnings,” the outlet says in part of its retraction.

 

This was clearly a coordinated hit being made by The Post, evidenced by the timing; the initial report was made midweek to land in busy news cycles, while the wan correction is made in the weekend lull of low news consumption. Now there have been follow-up retractions seen, one coming from the New York Times, and a second being made by NBC News. These are deeply revealing because both outlets are not dismissing their culpability by saying their position was based on the Post report. 

 

Both The Times and NBC have to walk back their claims of independently corroborating the report with their own sourcing and investigation. This exposes the game being played with more frequency in the press, as major outlets gather up in tandem being a breaking story and provide what are claimed to be independently verified versions of the same account, when the probability is they are operating off of the same source(s). This is not corroboration, it is coordination, which leads instead to a collective version of Wiley E. Coyote bombs exploding in their faces.

 

The Times had to admit, “An earlier version of this article misstated whether Rudolph W. Giuliani received a formal warning from the F.B.I. about Russian disinformation. Mr. Giuliani did not receive such a so-called defensive briefing.” 

 

As for NBC, they too had to tuck a tail under their hindquarters, saying their report, “was based on a source familiar with the matter, but a second source now says the briefing was only prepared for Giuliani and not delivered to him, in part over concerns it might complicate the criminal investigation of Giuliani.”

 

To get a sense of just how significant this fraudulent effort becomes, we rely on none other than Brian Stelter. CNN’s media analyst is always reticent to be overly critical of major news outlets engaging in false information. If it is not Fox News delivering fake news then he is more apt to either play defense, or not acknowledge the issue at all. For him to note this media malpractice means it is too big of a problem for even him to ignore.

 

This has become the methodology seen from the news leaders over the past year, where multiple outlets claim to have separately verified a story. Recall when The Atlantic came out during the campaign with the story of the President allegedly calling dead soldiers ‘’losers’’ during a European trip. A number of sources backed up this bogus story with shameful results. In January The Post again looked ridiculous when it was exposed to have lied about Trump’s phone call to Georgia election officials. CNN also had to backtrack from the story, as they claimed to have also corroborated the falsified claims.

 

This is not a case of a lone outlet making a “mistake”, and rectifying an error later, with follow up stories from others correcting the record. Each case of these outlets altering their story is a major retraction, as they all claimed to have done the work and nailed down the facts on the story — and all are now exposed for having engaged in a coordination to push out a false story, bolstering the “facts” by lending their names behind the story. 

 

This is not a major news retraction — it is numerous major retractions. It is also exposing the desire to push false narratives through a gameplan from which they all work. We are looking at a classic case of the press manufacturing a news story across numerous outlets.

 

 

https://redstate.com/bradslager/2021/05/02/the-giuliani-walkback-gets-worse-and-exposes-collusion-in-mainstream-press-n372938

 

 

The fundamental issue is what was their source(s) of the false story that Giuliani was the target of "Russian misinformation"?  It seems ironic the story itself was misinformation.  And more critical I expect they all knew the story was false before they reported it.  Which has other important implications.  Of course they will all say as news outlets they need to protect their confidential sources but do those protections extend to liars and people that plant false stories for political gain and to cause harm to others?  Perhaps something for the courts to look into if lawsuits against news outlets follow?

 

As for the source my guesses:

A misinformation source inside the US intelligence community.

A misinformation source inside DOJ or the FBI.

A misinformation source inside the Dept of State.

A misinformation source from a House committee like the Intelligence committee.    

[Melon]

Four Season's Total Landscaping

[B-Man]

https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_morningbrief/fbi-spied-on-giuliani-trump-icloud-communications-during-impeachment-push-giuliani_3799121.html

 

 

CORRUPTION: FBI Spied on Giuliani, Trump ICloud Communications During Impeachment Push: Giuliani.

 

 

Related: When Biden says “America is back” and praises “our democracy,” it’s clear he means a return to the pre-Trump status quo, including the meddlesome and ungoverned Deep State. 

 

“Getting Giuliani’s documents and computers will allow various people with their toes in Ukraine—including the Biden family—to figure out what Trump and Giuliani know. It will also allow Biden’s protectors to seal up incriminating documents as confidential because of the ongoing investigation, and to figure out who else may have dirt on the Bidens.”

 

 

https://amgreatness.com/2021/05/01/the-deep-state-is-back/

[Governor]

He didn’t just post something from epoch times did he? OMG. He did!

 

They spied on us! LMAO. Where have I heard this before?

Edited May 3, 2021 by The Governor

[Melon]

7 minutes ago, B-Man said:

the meddlesome and ungoverned Deep State. 

 

 

Too afraid of Biden's spies to post this in the #DeepState thread?

[Governor]

Bye Rudy.

[B-Man]

5 hours ago, The Governor said:

He didn’t just post something from epoch times did he? OMG. He did!

 

They spied on us! LMAO. Where have I heard this before?

 

Nope.

 

I told you children last week,

 

Your "attack the link site" dodge that you try when you have nothing else doesn't work here anymore.

 

 

 

 

 

[Governor]

4 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

Nope.

 

I told you children last week,

 

Your "attack the link site" dodge that you try when you have nothing else doesn't work here anymore.

 

 

 

 

 

Epoch Times was the first fake news site to be banned from Fbook. That was before Trump got into office.

[B-Man]

 

 

The Never-ending Hunt for a Trump Crime

By Clarice Feldman

 

The news that federal investigators searched and seized electronic devices from the apartment and office of Rudy Giuliani, a Trump lawyer, raises so many questions and involves so much missing information that even someone as skilled a mystery writer as Patricia Cornwell might have difficulty unraveling the story. I’m not that person, unfortunately, but let me try to make some sense out of this crime story.

 

More at the link: 

 

 

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/05/the_neverending_hunt_for_a_trump_crime_.html

 

 

OMG, not American Thinker !

 

LOL.

 

 

[Governor]

We’ve got another winner!

 

Reasoning: Conspiracy, Propaganda, Lack of Ownership Transparency, Failed Fact Checks
Bias Rating: EXTREME RIGHT
Factual Reporting: LOW
Country: USA (45/180 Press Freedom)
Media Type: Website
Traffic/Popularity: High Traffic
MBFC Credibility Rating: LOW CREDIBILITY

History

 

American Thinker is a conservative news and opinion blog founded in 2003 by Thomas Lifson (He frequently writes for the conspiracy site The Liberty Beacon) and Health Care consultant Richard Baehr (he also writes frequently for PJ Media, Jewish Policy Center, and Israel Hayom). Both Liftson and Baehr are Kenyon College Alumni.

[All_Pro_Bills]

20 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

The Never-ending Hunt for a Trump Crime

By Clarice Feldman

 

The news that federal investigators searched and seized electronic devices from the apartment and office of Rudy Giuliani, a Trump lawyer, raises so many questions and involves so much missing information that even someone as skilled a mystery writer as Patricia Cornwell might have difficulty unraveling the story. I’m not that person, unfortunately, but let me try to make some sense out of this crime story.

 

More at the link: 

 

 

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/05/the_neverending_hunt_for_a_trump_crime_.html

 

 

OMG, not American Thinker !

 

LOL.

 

 

One possibility is the Biden's want to know what dirt Rudy collected on their grifting and payoff activities in Ukraine.  Some they drum up some flimsy charge to get warrants.  Doubtful any charges or indictments will follow as those would generate discovery motions from the defense team which necessitate the government to open up about evidence.  That's something nobody inside the agencies and departments wants to air.

[Governor]

Uh oh…..

 

Former President Donald Trump and his cronies should beware. The search warrants executed against Trump’s former personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, mark a leap forward in the Department of Justice’s look into the past four years of potential illegalities. It signals turbulent waters ahead for Giuliani and his former client alike.

These warrants are not easy to get. You need to convince a judge there is probable cause of wrongdoing. The warrant must also pass tough review at the highest levels of the DOJ. That these warrants survived this double scrutiny is itself a sign of serious trouble for the former New York mayor. It is particularly unusual for prosecutors to execute a warrant against a lawyer (the most recent notable example is someone else who served as Trump’s lawyer, Michael Cohen). That's further indication of the depths of Giuliani’s jeopardy.

[B-Man]

22 minutes ago, The Governor said:

We’ve got another winner!

 

The author Clarice Feldman is well respected across the nation.

 

Guv's laughable attempt at enforcing his "approved sites list" as been tried on PPP for the past decade.

 

It always fails, because normal people want to read others viewpoints............those who don't always expose themselves.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Governor]

3 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

The author Clarice Feldman is well respected across the nation.

 

Guv's laughable attempt at enforcing his "approved sites list" as been tried on PPP for the past decade.

 

It always fails, because normal people want to read others viewpoints............those who don't always expose themselves.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You get your news from Israeli extremists. They aren’t even respected in Israel.

This should tell everyone that they’re in deep doo-doo. This is desperation at this point. They know state charges are coming also.

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/07/andrew-giuliani-trump-new-york-gov-479794

Edited May 3, 2021 by The Governor

[Governor]

Imagine running for Governor to keep your father out of prison. 
 

That’s a really bad situation but it’s their only play left. When your place gets raided, you’re a few weeks away from facing charges.

[B-Man]

 

 

 

[All_Pro_Bills]

10 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

I completely agree with Greenwald and Lewis.  These news agencies have devolved to performing as agents for US government dis-information operations for the disseminating of stories aimed as political dissidents and critics of the government and threats to their power and control.  I get all that.  The sociopaths running the government want to grow their power over everything.   

 

And what I don't understand are people on this msg board and elsewhere that endorse and applaud the continued and growing use of State power to control and hinder the freedoms and rights of the citizens of our nation.    Truth being they care no more for them than they do for the people they directly attack.  They are acting solely in their interest.  

    

[Melon]

[SoCal Deek]

1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

I completely agree with Greenwald and Lewis.  These news agencies have devolved to performing as agents for US government dis-information operations for the disseminating of stories aimed as political dissidents and critics of the government and threats to their power and control.  I get all that.  The sociopaths running the government want to grow their power over everything.   

 

And what I don't understand are people on this msg board and elsewhere that endorse and applaud the continued and growing use of State power to control and hinder the freedoms and rights of the citizens of our nation.    Truth being they care no more for them than they do for the people they directly attack.  They are acting solely in their interest.  

    

Close but not exactly. These outlets are not arms of the State. They’re in fact the propaganda machine for the DNC. They’re intent on becoming the State but they’re not quite there yet. Really dangerous stuff for this country and anyone who doesn’t see the danger is an outright fool. 

[Melon]

Maybe Rudy will finally get that trial by combat he was screaming about leading up to the insurrection. 

[BillStime]

1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

I completely agree with Greenwald and Lewis.  These news agencies have devolved to performing as agents for US government dis-information operations for the disseminating of stories aimed as political dissidents and critics of the government and threats to their power and control.  I get all that.  The sociopaths running the government want to grow their power over everything.   

 

And what I don't understand are people on this msg board and elsewhere that endorse and applaud the continued and growing use of State power to control and hinder the freedoms and rights of the citizens of our nation.    Truth being they care no more for them than they do for the people they directly attack.  They are acting solely in their interest.  

    

 

After the past five years of Fox, Newsmax, OANN and all the other pathetic garbage @B-Man sources covering and sugar coating everything Trump you're upset that the MSM isn't putting up billboards with retractions and corrections?

 

You're really going to hate the MSM when the feds really come after Trump... it will always be the media's fault; and never Don-the-Con.

 

Pathetic as always...

 

 

 

[BillStime]

29 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Close but not exactly. These outlets are not arms of the State. They’re in fact the propaganda machine for the DNC. They’re intent on becoming the State but they’re not quite there yet. Really dangerous stuff for this country and anyone who doesn’t see the danger is an outright fool. 

LMAO - are you the editor of Britebart? Redstate? Fox? 
 

The hypocrisy is hysterical this am lol
 

 

[SoCal Deek]

Just now, BillStime said:

LMAO - are you the editor of Britebart? Redstate? Fox? 
 

The hypocrisy is hysterical this am lol
 

 

What hypocrisy? I can’t offer an opinion? Only yours counts now? 

[BillStime]

19 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

What hypocrisy? I can’t offer an opinion? Only yours counts now? 

 

They’re in fact the propaganda machine for the DNC. 

 

Really dangerous stuff for this country and anyone who doesn’t see the danger is an outright fool. 

 

 

Again, I ask - where have you been the past four years? The level of gaslighting and sugarcoating from your RNC spin machine was over the TOP and continues to be OVER THE TOP.

 

You are an OUTRIGHT FOOL!!!

 

 

 

 

[Governor]

42 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

After the past five years of Fox, Newsmax, OANN and all the other pathetic garbage @B-Man sources covering and sugar coating everything Trump you're upset that the MSM isn't putting up billboards with retractions and corrections?

 

You're really going to hate the MSM when the feds really come after Trump... it will always be the media's fault; and never Don-the-Con.

 

Pathetic as always...

 

 

 

They’re pretty silly aren’t they? It isn’t even an important detail of the overall story.

 

Of course Rudy knew he wasn’t supposed to be hanging out with Russian Intel. 

 

He didn’t need a briefing to know that. 

[All_Pro_Bills]

1 hour ago, BillStime said:

 

After the past five years of Fox, Newsmax, OANN and all the other pathetic garbage @B-Man sources covering and sugar coating everything Trump you're upset that the MSM isn't putting up billboards with retractions and corrections?

 

You're really going to hate the MSM when the feds really come after Trump... it will always be the media's fault; and never Don-the-Con.

 

Pathetic as always...

 

 

 

 

I absolutely guarantee the Feds are not going to go after Trump beyond harassment like the raid on Guiliani.  They are not going to take any legal action or file any charges.  You know why?  One simple term.... "Discovery". 

Discovery requires the prosecution to open up their files and folders to the defense and provide evidence and information that backs their charges.  And provides the defense legal grounds for filing motions to support disclosure of anything they deem required for their defense.  Information the government doesn't want to expose.  So the government and the agencies won't do that.  They want to keep their dirty laundry in the dark.  What do you think all the harassment of the former administration was all about?  Keeping all their deeds and activities under wraps.      

 

But apparently you are incapable of objectively comprehending what's been going on here.  Hopefully you'll figure it all out before its too late.  And if not you'll make an excellent drone in the service of the State when called upon. 

Edited May 4, 2021 by All_Pro_Bills

[BillStime]

7 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

 

I absolutely guarantee the Feds are not going to go after Trump beyond harassment like the raid on Guiliani.  They are not going to take any legal action or file any charges.  You know why?  One simple term.... "Discovery". 

Discovery requires the prosecution to open up their files and folders to the defense and provide evidence and information that backs their charges.  And provides the defense legal grounds for filing motions to support disclosure of anything they deem required for their defense.  Information the government doesn't want to expose.  So the government and the agencies won't do that.  They want to keep their dirty laundry in the dark.  What do you think all the harassment of the former administration was all about?  Keeping all their deeds and activities under wraps.      

 

But apparently you are incapable of objectively comprehending what's been going on here.  Hopefully you'll figure it all out before its too late.  And if not you'll make an excellent drone in the service of the State when called upon. 

 

Wait, did you just deflect?

 

[Governor]

Do you know how we know Rudy doesn’t have any evidence?

 

We would’ve seen it before the election. 
 

This board is a factory of sadness this week. 
 

Why are any of you defending Rudy in the first place? We knew he was toast a few years ago.

 

Fear of discovery? LMAO. That’s the dumbest thing I’ve heard in years.

 

Its Hillary’s email again. It’s the same exact strategy deployed by the same exact guy. There is no “secret” HD in Rudy’s possession. How many times are people going to fall for the same exact thing? It’s stupid!
 

Edited May 4, 2021 by The Governor