Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Demongyz said: It would turn to civil war when all the red parts around the large cities want to join with the red states and the blue cities realize they can't feed themselves or produce power and so on. Would get nasty pretty quick. We really just need the Federal Gov do what they are supposed to and get out of the way. Let the states do what they do. nope. other way around. blue areas currently support red areas. blue voting districts account for 75% of state and local taxes and 73% of federal tax. Edited February 21, 2023 by redtail hawk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demongyz Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) 42 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: nope. other way around. blue areas currently support red areas. blue voting districts account for 75% of state and local taxes and 73% of federal tax. Yes, with taxes. Too bad red areas have all the resources. Cant make all that white collar money without power, water, food, gas etc. Oh yeah, guns. Edited February 21, 2023 by Demongyz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Demongyz said: Yes, with taxes. Too bad red areas have all the resources. Cant make all that white collar money without power, water, food, gas etc. Oh yeah, guns. So you're saying the red states would refuse to sell products to the blue? How are they going to make up for all the lost "income" from social programs like welfare, food stamps and medicaid? it will be difficult for them to wean from the gov't teets. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demongyz Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 19 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: So you're saying the red states would refuse to sell products to the blue? How are they going to make up for all the lost "income" from social programs like welfare, food stamps and medicaid? it will be difficult for them to wean from the gov't teets. It's war, starve them out, pick up the pieces. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Anyone supporting the dissolution of the United States is a traitor and should be treated as such. We may have our disagreements but the moment you start seeing your fellow Americans as the enemy is the moment you’ve betrayed the values this country was founded upon. 3 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, ChiGoose said: Anyone supporting the dissolution of the United States is a traitor and should be treated as such. We may have our disagreements but the moment you start seeing your fellow Americans as the enemy is the moment you’ve betrayed the values this country was founded upon. i wonder what percent of the current US population believes armed revolt is appropriate now. my guess would be at least 5-10%. any wonder Justice is worried about the bad guys knowing where the cameras are in the capitol. For the record, I'm being facetious re separation of states. It is treasonous. Just pointing out the economic consequences of the idea the evil congresswomen advanced. Edited February 21, 2023 by redtail hawk 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 On 1/24/2023 at 9:31 PM, BillStime said: Absolute chit show Ha ha ha…there’s the civil war! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 ^^^^^^^^^ per unnamed sources in the daily beast^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Ha ha ha…there’s the civil war! i wonder if they grabbed each other by the pu$$y... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted February 21, 2023 Author Share Posted February 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, Chris farley said: ^^^^^^^^^ per unnamed sources in the daily beast^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^ always prepared to clean up a MAGA mess^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 ^^^^^^^^^^ always spreading blue anon garbage and shady sources ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: i wonder if they grabbed each other by the pu$$y... They will probably both be in Trump’s campaign now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, Tiberius said: They will probably both be in Trump’s campaign now. not sure about MTG but the other one is almost certainly XX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demongyz Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 2 hours ago, redtail hawk said: not sure about MTG but the other one is almost certainly XX MTG would be for sure, she towed the line on the House Leader vote whereas Bobert didn't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 I've always seen the "national divorce" sort of talk as a mechanism for right-of-center Americans to vent frustration both at the current state of government AND the current state of the Republican party. That they see separation from the country as a more plausible route to government representation than overthrowing GOPe leadership. We're already seeing some trends toward decentralization in Florida, Texas, Arizona. States accelerating towards that rather than open war seems far more likely. The question is whether the federal government wishes to attempt state leadership overthrow or perhaps kill people in some fruitless attempt to stop it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, LeviF said: I've always seen the "national divorce" sort of talk as a mechanism for right-of-center Americans to vent frustration both at the current state of government AND the current state of the Republican party. That they see separation from the country as a more plausible route to government representation than overthrowing GOPe leadership. We're already seeing some trends toward decentralization in Florida, Texas, Arizona. States accelerating towards that rather than open war seems far more likely. The question is whether the federal government wishes to attempt state leadership overthrow or perhaps kill people in some fruitless attempt to stop it. in other words, they can't pick a team. Not sure they're gonna find one they agree with on the state level. If it doesn't pander to them at the expense of everyone else, it's no good. Edited February 22, 2023 by redtail hawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Joe Ferguson forever Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Tiberius said: glad that C span doesn't play in 4K Edited February 22, 2023 by redtail hawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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