3rdnlng Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 10 hours ago, BullBuchanan said: I ***** wish. First it goes to the fact that there's a 40% he beats his wife or kids. Then it goes to the fact that he's probably abused his power to assault, intimidate or harass an innocent person. After that it gets to killing dogs. Simply put, you are a Marxist and a creator of "facts." You hate the police, not because you actually hate them but because you hate the fact that they stand between you, your ilk and anarchy. You are willing to make things up out of the blue to further your ridiculous case. You've spent enough time here spouting nonsense and getting responses. Go fix your own country. 1 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BullBuchanan Posted September 24, 2020 Author Share Posted September 24, 2020 Just now, 3rdnlng said: Simply put, you are a Marxist and a creator of "facts." You hate the police, not because you actually hate them but because you hate the fact that they stand between you, your ilk and anarchy. You are willing to make things up out of the blue to further your ridiculous case. You've spent enough time here spouting nonsense and getting responses. Go fix your own country. Define marxist Prove that any of my facts are fake I do very much hate police, as they are terrrorists Am I an anarchist or a marxist? You can't be both. Cite a single thing I've made up? 1 minute ago, B-Man said: he's a terrorist and a traitor. 4 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said: I've served on grand juries at the county and federal levels. In my experience its a rubber stamp of the prosecutors case with only a few exceptions. So the question is what evidence, testimony, or statements did the prosecutors office provide to the grand jury that led them to reach the decisions they made concerning the actions of the cops involved? Based on the process if the prosecutor presented evidence with intent to indict the cops in this case the grand jury would have supported that outcome. My conclusion is the prosecutors did not want to indict the cops in this case and that has nothing to do with their guilt or innocence at this point in the process. So the questions and scrutiny for the decision should fall on the prosecutors office. Queuing up the expecting protests and rioting while taking out anger against the Louisville police force and local businesses isn't going to address that point. A more sound approach would be to get a good legal team and raise some questions, file motions, and litigate against the prosecutors office and the city. Given the lack of a "no true bill" from the jury, It appears unlikely the prosecutors even proposed charges against the other officers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 26 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Simply put, you are a Marxist and a creator of "facts." You hate the police, not because you actually hate them but because you hate the fact that they stand between you, your ilk and anarchy. You are willing to make things up out of the blue to further your ridiculous case. You've spent enough time here spouting nonsense and getting responses. Go fix your own country. The funny part about Marxists is they don't understand you have to have an enforcement arm to have Marxism. It's the ultimate hypocrisy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 24, 2020 Author Share Posted September 24, 2020 Portland branch of organized terrorist police group surround a peaceful protester and repeatedly attack them, while preventing filming of their actions. What are these cowards so angry that they need to beat up on unarmed citizens?https://thumbs.gfycat.com/WeightyGoldenIaerismetalmark-mobile.mp4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 24, 2020 Author Share Posted September 24, 2020 Sacramento branch of organized terrorist police group kicks man in the back while he is fully complying with police commands This definitely isn't systemic though, right? https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2020/08/31/sacramento-county-deputy-kicking-man/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 54 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Sacramento branch of organized terrorist police group kicks man in the back while he is fully complying with police commands This definitely isn't systemic though, right? https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2020/08/31/sacramento-county-deputy-kicking-man/ You are about as dumb as it gets. The victim was told by the police to "get down". Was he down, complying with the police when he was kicked or was he standing upright? While it may have appeared distasteful, it's certainly not as you described. In other words, you have lied here again. How can you say things that are the exact opposite of the video you posted? Do Canadians not speak or understand English anymore? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 24, 2020 Author Share Posted September 24, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: You are about as dumb as it gets. The victim was told by the police to "get down". Was he down, complying with the police when he was kicked or was he standing upright? While it may have appeared distasteful, it's certainly not as you described. In other words, you have lied here again. How can you say things that are the exact opposite of the video you posted? Do Canadians not speak or understand English anymore? More personal attacks from the intellectually vacant with no supporting evidence. Where is your proof that he was told to get down here before being tased, kicked, and grappled? He was an innocent man who committed the crime of walking while black "Sacramento County Sheriff’s Office said the incident was a case of mistaken identity. According to investigators, the man matched the description of a suspect with a felony arrest warrant. Deputies and officers from the Sacramento Police Department assigned to the Post Release Community Supervision team were conducting surveillance on a suspect. According to spokesperson Sgt. Tess Deterding, the team observed the suspect’s grandmother leave an establishment. The man who was arrested by the police left the same location after the suspect’s grandmother. “This male matched the physical description of the suspect and the team doing surveillance reasonably believed this individual was the suspect,” said Deterding." Physical description: "Black male, 20 - 50 years of age" Edited September 24, 2020 by BullBuchanan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 24, 2020 Author Share Posted September 24, 2020 More of Chef & 3rdnlngs friends who make up the "vast majority of good cops" from the Sacramento branch of organized terrorist police. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 25 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: More personal attacks from the intellectually vacant with no supporting evidence. Where is your proof that he was told to get down here before being tased, kicked, and grappled? He was an innocent man who committed the crime of walking while black "Sacramento County Sheriff’s Office said the incident was a case of mistaken identity. According to investigators, the man matched the description of a suspect with a felony arrest warrant. Deputies and officers from the Sacramento Police Department assigned to the Post Release Community Supervision team were conducting surveillance on a suspect. According to spokesperson Sgt. Tess Deterding, the team observed the suspect’s grandmother leave an establishment. The man who was arrested by the police left the same location after the suspect’s grandmother. “This male matched the physical description of the suspect and the team doing surveillance reasonably believed this individual was the suspect,” said Deterding." Physical description: "Black male, 20 - 50 years of age" In your video. Are all Canadians this dumb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 24, 2020 Author Share Posted September 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: In your video. Are all Canadians this dumb? The cops don't say anything until after they've tased him, kicked him, and put him in a headlock. Not sure what video you're watching. Must be from "He's got a gun!" police training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 3 hours ago, BullBuchanan said: Seattle branch of organized terrorist police force deliberately runs over an injured man's head with their bike. Crushing their heads!! You reap what you sow. 3 hours ago, BullBuchanan said: Portland branch of organized terrorist police group surround a peaceful protester and repeatedly attack them, while preventing filming of their actions. What are these cowards so angry that they need to beat up on unarmed citizens?https://thumbs.gfycat.com/WeightyGoldenIaerismetalmark-mobile.mp4 Awesome! You reap what you sow. 58 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: More of Chef & 3rdnlngs friends who make up the "vast majority of good cops" from the Sacramento branch of organized terrorist police. Beautiful! You reap what you sow. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 24, 2020 Author Share Posted September 24, 2020 Just now, Chef Jim said: Crushing their heads!! You reap what you sow. Yea, because protesting murder requires more people to get assaulted by pigs. It's pretty clear here that all of the fascist enablers here failed basic order of operations. 3 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Crushing their heads!! You reap what you sow. Awesome! You reap what you sow. Beautiful! You reap what you sow. And this right here is why I'll never feel bad about anything that happens to a cop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Yea, because protesting murder requires more people to get assaulted by pigs. They reap what they sow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 24, 2020 Author Share Posted September 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: They reap what they sow. Video released showing Utah police shooting at boy with autism nearly a dozen times Salt Lake City 13-year-old remains in hospital after mother called 911, requesting mental health worker Associated Press Mon 21 Sep 2020 21.59 EDTLast modified on Mon 21 Sep 2020 22.58 EDT Mike Brown, the Salt Lake City police chief, listens as Mayor Erin Mendenhall speaks during a news conference on Monday following the shooting. Photograph: Rick Bowmer/AP A 13-year-old Utah boy with autism was shot by police after his mother asked for help getting him hospital mental health treatment and officers agreed to talk with him, police footage released Monday showed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: And this right here is why I'll never feel bad about anything that happens to a cop. And this is why I'll never feel bad about anything that happens to a protestor. I have a question for you. Is my statement absurd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 24, 2020 Author Share Posted September 24, 2020 Just now, Chef Jim said: And this is why I'll never feel bad about anything that happens to a protestor. I have a question for you. Is my statement absurd? No, it fits right in line with the amoral personality you and your political allies have displayed including, a complete unwillingness to observe evidence, and a complete and total bias in favor of authority regardless of how many innocent people are killed, maimed, and traumatized. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said: No, it fits right in line with the amoral personality you and your political allies have displayed including, a complete unwillingness to observe evidence, and a complete and total bias in favor of authority regardless of how many innocent people are killed, maimed, and traumatized. I'm amoral? I'M amoral? Look in the mirror skippy. You call all cops terrorist and pigs. You cheer the shooting of cops and I'M the amoral one. You are one massive hypocrite. You do realize that correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER DOT COM Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Chef Jim said: I'm amoral? I'M amoral? Yes 14 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Yea, because protesting murder requires more people to get assaulted by pigs. 12 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: They reap what they sow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 24, 2020 Author Share Posted September 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: I'm amoral? I'M amoral? Look in the mirror skippy. You call all cops terrorist and pigs. You cheer the shooting of cops and I'M the amoral one. You are one massive hypocrite. You do realize that correct? Yes, you're amoral. You've consistently defended the use of lethal force on citizens. Do you believe that terrorism exists at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said: Yes So saying they reap what they sow makes me immoral? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: No, it fits right in line with the amoral personality you and your political allies have displayed including, a complete unwillingness to observe evidence, and a complete and total bias in favor of authority regardless of how many innocent people are killed, maimed, and traumatized. We down here in the states take a different look at things than you guys. First we don't recruit our police from groups like The Village People and name them "The Mounties". Second, we wouldn't even allow a female Prime Minister to get away with wearing fake eyebrows let alone a (supposedly) male Prime Minister. You guys have all the answers until it comes to your defense, then it's us to the rescue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER DOT COM Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: So saying they reap what they sow makes me immoral? To any rational person, in that context you are talking, of course. Take care, Jimbo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 24, 2020 Author Share Posted September 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: So saying they reap what they sow makes me immoral? No, but believing that it isn't terrorism when police put flashbangs in the cribs of infants is though.https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ex-georgia-deputy-acquitted-after-flash-bang-grenade-hurts-toddler-n479361 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Yes, you're amoral. You've consistently defended the use of lethal force on citizens. Do you believe that terrorism exists at all? I have not defended the use of lethal force on it's citizens. Not one ***** bit. You don't even have a clue what you're arguing against. Slow down, relax, take a deep breathe and pay attention. You're so wrapped up in your "all cops are terrorists" you cannot think. Does terrorism exist? Ummm yeah. Why do you ask. 1 minute ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said: To any rational person, in that context you are talking, of course. Take care, Jimbo. You do understand why I said they reap what they sow right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 24, 2020 Author Share Posted September 24, 2020 Just now, Chef Jim said: Does terrorism exist? Ummm yeah. Why do you ask. Because you've been on this huge rant saying I'm applying the term unjustly. I want you to tell what makes someone a terrorist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said: No, but believing that it isn't terrorism when police put flashbangs in the cribs of infants is though.https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ex-georgia-deputy-acquitted-after-flash-bang-grenade-hurts-toddler-n479361 It's not terrorism. And the case you linked is not terrorism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 24, 2020 Author Share Posted September 24, 2020 Just now, Chef Jim said: It's not terrorism. And the case you linked is not terrorism. Ok, so attacking infants with grenades isn't terrorism. What is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Just now, BullBuchanan said: Because you've been on this huge rant saying I'm applying the term unjustly. I want you to tell what makes someone a terrorist. Someone that is part of an organized terrorist group who's SOLE purpose is to use of violence and intimidation for a political purpose. Just now, BullBuchanan said: Ok, so attacking infants with grenades isn't terrorism. What is? Was the child targeted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER DOT COM Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Just now, Chef Jim said: Someone that is part of an organized terrorist group who's SOLE purpose is to use of violence and intimidation for a political purpose. That wasn't even Al-Qaeda's SOLE purpose. What groups are terrorists by this definition? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Just now, wAcKy ZeBrA said: That wasn't even Al-Qaeda's SOLE purpose. What groups are terrorists by this definition? I am not here to identify which groups ARE terrorists. I'm here to show that law enforcement is NOT a terrorist organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 24, 2020 Author Share Posted September 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Someone that is part of an organized terrorist group who's SOLE purpose is to use of violence and intimidation for a political purpose. Was the child targeted? So if any of their members don't commit violence they cease to be a terrorist organization? 1 minute ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said: That wasn't even Al-Qaeda's SOLE purpose. What groups are terrorists by this definition? Exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER DOT COM Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Just now, Chef Jim said: I am not here to identify which groups ARE terrorists. I'm here to show that law enforcement is NOT a terrorist organization. You defined terrorist. What groups are terrorists by your definition? Do you defend ISIS like this, Jimbo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: No, but believing that it isn't terrorism when police put flashbangs in the cribs of infants is though.https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ex-georgia-deputy-acquitted-after-flash-bang-grenade-hurts-toddler-n479361 Now there you go again, lying. Yes, a flash bang grenade accidentally ended up in a crib 5 years ago. Police didn't "put" it there. The female officer was acquitted of lying to a judge regarding the search warrant. Is lying ok now in Canada? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 A black police officer tasers and arrests a white women for not wearing a mask outside at a middle school football game in Ohio. Is this motivated by racism? Reverse this to white cop/black women you'd be damn sure it would make every evening network news show as another police bias incident. Thankfully, the other 10 people in attendance did not start a riot or any fires. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said: So if any of their members don't commit violence they cease to be a terrorist organization? I've already defined a terrorist organization. It it falls under those definition then any member of that organization is a terrorist. Law enforcement, based on that definition, is NOT a terrorist organization. Unless your ability to think critically is clouded by hate as yours is. 5 minutes ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said: You defined terrorist. What groups are terrorists by your definition? Do you defend ISIS like this, Jimbo? What does ISIS have to do with this? Nice strawman. I'm talking whether or not law enforcement is a terrorist organization. That is the side of the debate I'm taking plain and simple. But you knew that. 12 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Ok, so attacking infants with grenades isn't terrorism. What is? I'll ask again. Was the child targeted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 24, 2020 Author Share Posted September 24, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: I've already defined a terrorist organization. It it falls under those definition then any member of that organization is a terrorist. Law enforcement, based on that definition, is NOT a terrorist organization. Unless your ability to think critically is clouded by hate as yours is. Yet you have absolutely no problem, and in fact encourage, labeling ANTIFA, a decentralized movement whose entire existence is based on defending people from government sponsored violence, who are responsible for 0 deaths as a terrorist organization. Meanwhile, your police force, over the same period of the last 25 years, whose sole objective is to deprive citizens of their life, health, money and/or freedom, has been responsible for ~25000 deaths. Edited September 24, 2020 by BullBuchanan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Yet you have absolutely no problem, and in fact encourage, labeling ANTIFA, a decentralized movement whose entire existence is based on defending people from government sponsored violence, who are responsible for 0 deaths as a terrorist organization. This isn't about ATIFA/BLM/ISI/Al-Qaeda. This is about the absurdity of you claiming (so much so you started a whole thread on it)that law enforcement as a terrorist organization. Again it's absolutely hilarious that you define terrorist based on the number of deaths that group has caused. Just a tip son. Violence does not equal death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted September 24, 2020 Author Share Posted September 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Chef Jim said: This isn't about ATIFA/BLM/ISI/Al-Qaeda. This is about the absurdity of you claiming (so much so you started a whole thread on it)that law enforcement as a terrorist organization. Again it's absolutely hilarious that you define terrorist based on the number of deaths that group has caused. Just a tip son. Violence does not equal death. Oh I'm fully aware violence doesn't equal death, and you've refused to grasp that concept. What you fail to understand is that contradiction of your own statements. Since ANTIFA "SOLE purpose" is not to commit violence, they shouldn't be on your list, but they are. Meanwhile the FAR more violent police force that brutalizes and kills americans EVERY SINGLE DAY are "mostly great at what they do" and "good people" You probably thought these were "some very fine people" as well. And for the record, the reason I started this thread was to point out the absurdity that while this board has labeled ANTIFA a terrorist organization, there has been a hundreds year old terrorist organization subsisting off of taxpayer funds as part of our government guilty of far worse crimes including, but not limited to, tens of thousands of deaths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 (edited) https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/16104/antifa-history Empirical and anecdotal evidence shows that Antifa is, in fact, highly networked, well-funded and has a global presence. It has a flat organizational structure with dozens and possibly hundreds of local groups. Antifa's stated long-term objective, both in America and abroad, is to establish a communist world order. In the United States, Antifa's immediate aim is to bring about the demise of the Trump administration. A common tactic used by Antifa in the United States and Europe is to employ extreme violence and destruction of public and private property to goad the police into a reaction, which then "proves" Antifa's claim that the government is "fascist." Antifa is not only officially tolerated, but is being paid by the German government to fight the far right. — Bettina Röhl, German journalist, Neue Zürcher Zeitung, June 2, 2020. "Out of cowardice, its members cover their faces and keep their names secret. Antifa constantly threatens violence and attacks against politicians and police officers. It promotes senseless damage to property amounting to vast sums." — Bettina Röhl, Neue Zürcher Zeitung, June 2, 2020. U.S. Attorney General William Barr has blamed Antifa — a militant "anti-fascist" movement — for the violence that has erupted at George Floyd protests across the United States. "The violence instigated and carried out by Antifa and other similar groups in connection with the rioting is domestic terrorism and will be treated accordingly," he said. Barr also said that the federal government has evidence that Antifa "hijacked" legitimate protests around the country to "engage in lawlessness, violent rioting, arson, looting of businesses, and public property assaults on law enforcement officers and innocent people, and even the murder of a federal agent." Earlier, U.S. President Donald J. Trump had instructed the U.S. Justice Department to designate Antifa as a terrorist organization. Edited September 24, 2020 by 3rdnlng 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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