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Jamal Adams: Adam Gase isn’t the right leader for the Jets organization

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1 minute ago, Scott7975 said:

 

I heard on the radio yesterday that Gase pretty much only talks to the QBs and all the other coaches talk to the rest of the team.  I hope NY keeps him a very long time.


 

He helped bring in Joe Douglas as GM (who I happen to think is pretty good) - so I am praying these 2 are tied together at least 2 more years.  
 

I then hope they decide to start over with new Coach and GM (or keep the 2 together longer).

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4 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said:


 

He helped bring in Joe Douglas as GM (who I happen to think is pretty good) - so I am praying these 2 are tied together at least 2 more years.  
 

I then hope they decide to start over with new Coach and GM (or keep the 2 together longer).

This was my hope as well. That he would waste 3 years of Darnold's career in NJ, get fired, and then the new regime starts completely over again. 

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On 9/16/2020 at 4:09 PM, billsfan_34 said:

Wow- just wow. In football if you do not have team first concept with solid leadership from the top on down your done. You can have all the talent in the world and still suck- See the Cleveland Browns as a prime example. 

See Cleveland?  You sure?

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11 hours ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said:

See Cleveland?  You sure?

Yeah, dude they played Cinci. Come back to me when they string some wins together and beat Pittsburgh or Baltimore- mic drop

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11 hours ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said:

See Cleveland?  You sure?


Yea that checks out...?

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12 hours ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said:

See Cleveland?  You sure?

 

I'm not a fan of pointing out wins against weak opponents because it's still difficult to beat a weak opponent in this league, but my liver could've had a good game against the Cincy defense last night. Time will tell, but Cincy D was terrible last night.

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47 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

I'm not a fan of pointing out wins against weak opponents because it's still difficult to beat a weak opponent in this league, but my liver could've had a good game against the Cincy defense last night. Time will tell, but Cincy D was terrible last night.

Last night does not sell me on Cleveland or Mayfield.  Men against boys.  Burrow will be great I think but the Bengals overall are pretty weak right now.  Like the Bills beating up the Jets, except the Bengals put up 30 on the Browns.  If the Browns win 7 games I would be shocked.  

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13 hours ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said:

See Cleveland?  You sure?


They lost 38-6 to the Ravens.  Now they’re good because they beat the team that had the #1 overall pick in the draft?

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On 9/16/2020 at 4:55 PM, Rochesterfan said:


 

He helped bring in Joe Douglas as GM (who I happen to think is pretty good) - so I am praying these 2 are tied together at least 2 more years.  
 

I then hope they decide to start over with new Coach and GM (or keep the 2 together longer).

The consensus on Joe Douglas seems to be he is a good GM, I hear it a lot on the podcasts I've listened to as well.   But when I look at the money he had to spend in free agency and what he brought back in return, I'd say he failed in that respect.   Will have to wait and see on the draft picks, and I know he has only been there a year but they look like a JV squad and its not all scheme.

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Just now, thenorthremembers said:

The consensus on Joe Douglas seems to be he is a good GM, I hear it a lot on the podcasts I've listened to as well.   But when I look at the money he had to spend in free agency and what he brought back in return, I'd say he failed in that respect.   Will have to wait and see on the draft picks, and I know he has only been there a year but they look like a JV squad and its not all scheme.


 

I honestly believe - much like Beane here - he did not want to spend huge money or long term commitments until he figures out which players are his future and which players need to go.  
 

He did not sign big name free agents and many guys shunned them - although he did try to resign Robby Anderson until he decide to go back to his college coach..

 

I think this year is really about learning the guys and drafting a specific breed of players.  What is difficult at least in my eye - is that it might mean collateral damage to the QB they just drafted #3 overall.  They have wasted his first 2 years and it looks like year 3 is even worse - so it makes no sense to give him big money - you need to win on a rookie contract.  
 

I would look at them looking for a new QB next year and trying to get picks for Sam and using next year as the baseline/starting point for the rebuild.

 

My hope is that since JD is not in charge of the coaching staff - that the owners decide that Gase is the guy to lead the team a few more years and maybe they can screw up another drafted QB because my fear is they pair JD with a good coach and the Jets end up with their version of McDermott and Beane.

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5 hours ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

I'm not a fan of pointing out wins against weak opponents because it's still difficult to beat a weak opponent in this league, but my liver could've had a good game against the Cincy defense last night. Time will tell, but Cincy D was terrible last night.

You sound like Jauron lol just teasin’ 😂

4 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:


They lost 38-6 to the Ravens.  Now they’re good because they beat the team that had the #1 overall pick in the draft?

Exactly!!!

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14 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

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Lots of IFs.  IF owner had any sense he'd "promote" head coach Adam Gase to front office so he did not waste salary and make Gregg Williams head coach. Their head coach could not be worse, right?

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9 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

Lots of IFs.  IF owner had any sense he'd "promote" head coach Adam Gase to front office so he did not waste salary and make Gregg Williams head coach. Their head coach could not be worse, right?

I actually think that they would be better with Greggo as HC, at least i the short term. Hes a douche but gets guys to play hard. See Cleveland 2018. They hate Gase. 

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4 hours ago, Limeaid said:

 

Lots of IFs.  IF owner had any sense he'd "promote" head coach Adam Gase to front office so he did not waste salary and make Gregg Williams head coach. Their head coach could not be worse, right?

Yeah, number 31 that was it in the backside and parts of the DL. His D as a whole sucks.

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IF there was any justice, Williams would get rolled coming out of the Jets training facility late one night, and be sporting two black eyes and an empty bank account as a result.

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7 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

IF there was any justice, Williams would get rolled coming out of the Jets training facility late one night, and be sporting two black eyes and an empty bank account as a result.

 

One does wonder if those two cheap shots the Jets took on Allen was the result of some encouragement from Gregg.

 

Its hard to believe that Tom Donohoe was so easily fooled by this tough guy act.  

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