RochesterRob Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, bbb said: It seems like the Stones, Springsteen Beatles, etc. had music before 1980. But, you wouldn't know it on 97 Rock. It's all AC/ZZ etc. AC/DC, ZZTop skews a little younger than the Stones, Who, Beatles. People tend to want to listen to older programming when it reflects their time as late teens/early twenties. Those who grew up with the 60's bands are most likely retired so their spending is down along with the advertising to draw them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 You would think they might at least play deeper cuts by the same classic artists just to expand the playlist a bit. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 3 hours ago, RochesterRob said: As long as 97 brings in revenue to make a profit the programming will be classic album rock. When that market fades profit wise then the station will have to make a change in terms of format. Who knows maybe 97 will be talk radio in another 10-15 years. 2045: "Today's topic: whatever happened to classic rock radio?" 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, Prickly Pete said: You would think they might at least play deeper cuts by the same classic artists just to expand the playlist a bit. Sirius has already been doing that with a narrow range of preferred artists. Hitting all the niches including the people who love the Stones but hate the Beatles. Your area radio station is sooner or later heading the way of having the local guy talk local politics plus have the leader on from some summer festival or business interest. The glory days of broadcasting of many decades ago is not coming back for local stations. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: Sirius has already been doing that with a narrow range of preferred artists. Hitting all the niches including the people who love the Stones but hate the Beatles. Your area radio station is sooner or later heading the way of having the local guy talk local politics plus have the leader on from some summer festival or business interest. The glory days of broadcasting of many decades ago is not coming back for local stations. Without a doubt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 On 5/27/2020 at 11:08 AM, bbb said: Interesting that Heart qualifies for Canadian content. What about Rick James?? I'm unclear as to how the CRTC uses the Canadian content qualifications. There's a system referred to as MAPL that functions to determine a work's or artist's eligibility to be considered Canadian. A fairly concise explanation can be read at Wikipedia's entry at 'Canadian content - radio'. Under some conditions of MAPL, Canadian artists will actually ensure recordings are made in a Canadian studio as to cement the content issue. Steppenwolf actually falls under Canadian content, as does the abysmal Nick Gilder. Guaranteed that once every couple of days 'Hot Child in the City' tumbles out of GIANT FM's tower. Rick James' case is similar to that of the founders of Heart; U.S. citizens going to Canada to avoid the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted May 28, 2020 Author Share Posted May 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Canadian artists will actually ensure recordings are made in a Canadian studio as to cement the content issue Smart move! When I'm in the car, I listen to Boom 97.3 out of Toronto quite a bit...............A better playlist, by far, than 97 Rock.........And, you definitely do notice the Canadian content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 On 5/27/2020 at 9:43 AM, Wacka said: 97 rock plays what is popular with their audience. Good music ended with the mid 80s. Boomer ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 10 minutes ago, bbb said: Smart move! When I'm in the car, I listen to Boom 97.3 out of Toronto quite a bit...............A better playlist, by far, than 97 Rock.........And, you definitely do notice the Canadian content. I worked in a combined hydraulic / mechanical shop on a construction project, and the obligatory boom box radio was alternately flipping between 97.3 Boom when the younger crews were working, and 91.7 when the geezer rock crowd (40+) was on. An age mix generally saw CHTZ 97.7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted May 28, 2020 Author Share Posted May 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: I worked in a combined hydraulic / mechanical shop on a construction project, and the obligatory boom box radio was alternately flipping between 97.3 Boom when the younger crews were working, and 91.7 when the geezer rock crowd (40+) was on. An age mix generally saw CHTZ 97.7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 On 5/27/2020 at 11:08 AM, bbb said: 100% agreed. The Waiting would be in my personal top 20. Free Fallin is a dirge that I can't turn the channel fast enough on. If we're talking about Petty's best rock song, I'd easily go with Running Down a Dream. The riff, the ending solo... But yeah, screw 97 Rock. They play waaaaay too much ***** Eagles as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 4 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: They play waaaaay too much ***** Eagles as well. I swear, there's going to be trouble if I ever hear Hotel ***** California and I'm holding a machete. Don't be near me. Please for the love of God I wish they would retire that song... I think the problem is that it gets played on lite FM and Adult Rock, and Contemporary, and Classic Rock stations, in elevators, in the grocery store. The song just isn't good enough to be played so much for the past 45 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 16 minutes ago, snafu said: I swear, there's going to be trouble if I ever hear Hotel ***** California and I'm holding a machete. Don't be near me. Please for the love of God I wish they would retire that song... I think the problem is that it gets played on lite FM and Adult Rock, and Contemporary, and Classic Rock stations, in elevators, in the grocery store. The song just isn't good enough to be played so much for the past 45 years. "I had a rough night, and I hate the ***** Eagles." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted May 28, 2020 Author Share Posted May 28, 2020 4 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: If we're talking about Petty's best rock song, I'd easily go with Running Down a Dream. The riff, the ending solo... But yeah, screw 97 Rock. They play waaaaay too much ***** Eagles as well. I have often had arguments with my friends about the best Petty songs, and I vote with you, and my friends mainly vote for American Girl.............But, for personal reasons, The Waiting is my favorite, even though I know Running is a better song. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 You realize they just make these Top 500 lists up, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted May 29, 2020 Author Share Posted May 29, 2020 1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said: You realize they just make these Top 500 lists up, right? Their commercials claim that their fans vote for it...........One DJ kept saying and you listeners "help" us make the list............All the DJs kept saying they have no vote - unlike the fans. I think they're all full of crap............it's probably some kind of thing that's been researched, etc. and spits out numbers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 18 hours ago, bbb said: I have often had arguments with my friends about the best Petty songs, and I vote with you, and my friends mainly vote for American Girl.............But, for personal reasons, The Waiting is my favorite, even though I know Running is a better song. Oh for sure not arguing your personal preference. Just jumped at the chance to mention Running Down a Dream 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 They are playing Stairway to heaven in nursing homes now. I had a stroke when I lived in CA back in 2014. Was in a nursing home for rehab for several weeks. One day they had an accordionist come around to entertain. I heard him playing Lady of Spain and other songs. Not manyPoles there. I was already mobile so I went over and asked him if he knew "Who Stole the Keishka?" zHre did and played it for me. He was originally from Detroit and we talked about the bands that were in Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 11 hours ago, bbb said: Their commercials claim that their fans vote for it...........One DJ kept saying and you listeners "help" us make the list............All the DJs kept saying they have no vote - unlike the fans. I think they're all full of crap............it's probably some kind of thing that's been researched, etc. and spits out numbers. Maybe to some degree. They do do music testing. But most of that list comes from a consultant and it's 98% the same top 500 in every other city. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted May 30, 2020 Author Share Posted May 30, 2020 29 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Maybe to some degree. They do do music testing. But most of that list comes from a consultant and it's 98% the same top 500 in every other city. That's exactly what I meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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