Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 "An overwhelming 88 percent of Football Bowl Subdivision athletic directors said they want to see the College Football Playoff expand after the playoff agreement expires following the 2025 season. Brett McMurphy of Stadium reported Wednesday that 112 of the 130 FBS ADs responded to the outlet's survey about the state of college football. Of the respondents, 72 percent were in favor of an eight-team playoff, and 8 percent suggested a substantial increase to 16 qualifiers. "More and more fans are only concerned with the playoffs," a Power Five AD told McMurphy. "That's sad, but true, so we should expand the playoffs when possible. Even if that impacts the bowl system. We have to figure out a way." https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2885644-stadium-poll-88-of-fbs-ads-favor-expanded-college-football-playoff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 (edited) Then they should do away with conference championships. A case could be made that these kids play too many games now. I think it is totally unfair to have them play even more games and take a bigger risk of injury and losing millions of dollars. Jmo. Edited April 13, 2020 by Bill from NYC 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 13, 2020 Author Share Posted April 13, 2020 51 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: Then they should do away with conference championships. A case could be made that these kids play too many games now. I think it is totally unfair to have them play even more games and take a bigger risk of injury and losing millions of dollars. Jmo. i think they should too, have to wait and see. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 It was inevitable, but it should have been this many teams from the beginning. The bowl games have lost their prestige, and there's far too many of them and who really cares about them anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 (edited) They can also hack a couple of the non conference cupcakes off the schedules. Play two non conference with at least one of them a power 5 opponent and make the rest conference games until the playoff. I know this hurts the ability to get the young players quality playing time but have to give up something Edited April 14, 2020 by YoloinOhio 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 14, 2020 Author Share Posted April 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Mark Vader said: It was inevitable, but it should have been this many teams from the beginning. The bowl games have lost their prestige, and there's far too many of them and who really cares about them anymore? once they get up to 32 teams it will be like just like old times with the outback potato Tropicana bowl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 On 4/13/2020 at 1:15 PM, Buffalo Barbarian said: "An overwhelming 88 percent of Football Bowl Subdivision athletic directors said they want to see the College Football Playoff expand after the playoff agreement expires following the 2025 season. Brett McMurphy of Stadium reported Wednesday that 112 of the 130 FBS ADs responded to the outlet's survey about the state of college football. Of the respondents, 72 percent were in favor of an eight-team playoff, and 8 percent suggested a substantial increase to 16 qualifiers. "More and more fans are only concerned with the playoffs," a Power Five AD told McMurphy. "That's sad, but true, so we should expand the playoffs when possible. Even if that impacts the bowl system. We have to figure out a way." https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2885644-stadium-poll-88-of-fbs-ads-favor-expanded-college-football-playoff If FCS, D2 and D3 can manage a real playoff, FBS can too. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 15, 2020 Author Share Posted April 15, 2020 11 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: If FCS, D2 and D3 can manage a real playoff, FBS can too. Exactly, the bowl games have always been in the way but now that the fans (money) want it, it is finally coming to fruition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 3 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Exactly, the bowl games have always been in the way but now that the fans (money) want it, it is finally coming to fruition. How many games do the other divisions play? I don't follow them so I don't know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Bill from NYC said: How many games do the other divisions play? I don't follow them so I don't know. FCS starts with 24 teams. D2 has 28. D3 has 32. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 16 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: FCS starts with 24 teams. D2 has 28. D3 has 32. Actually I was wondering how many regular season games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bill from NYC said: Actually I was wondering how many regular season games. It varies but most play 12.. Edited April 15, 2020 by PromoTheRobot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 24+ teams?!? Talk bout diluting the best regular season there is. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, bbb said: 24+ teams?!? Talk bout diluting the best regular season there is. Hardly. Is March Madness "diluted" because a champion emerges from a 68 team field? Major college football has always been a beauty contest. It ought to be won on the field from a schedule NOT of your choosing. If I ran things I would include every FBS conference champion in a playoff because every school ought to start the year with a path to the national championship, like in basketball. Edited April 15, 2020 by PromoTheRobot 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said: Hardly. Is March Madness "diluted" because a champion emerges from a 68 team field? Major college football has always been a beauty contest. It ought to be won on the field from a schedule NOT of your choosing. If I ran things I would include every FBS conference champion in a playoff because every school ought to start the year with a path to the national championship, like in basketball. You're totally in reverse. March Madness is not the regular season. The regular season is absolutely diluted. For schools like UB and Bona, it isn't - but for teams that know they are going to be in the tourney every year, it totally is. ALL that matters is March Madness then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 16 minutes ago, bbb said: You're totally in reverse. March Madness is not the regular season. The regular season is absolutely diluted. For schools like UB and Bona, it isn't - but for teams that know they are going to be in the tourney every year, it totally is. ALL that matters is March Madness then. Every time some BS school rains 3-pointers and upsets a much better team in March Madness, the product is diluted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 On 4/14/2020 at 12:30 PM, PromoTheRobot said: If FCS, D2 and D3 can manage a real playoff, FBS can too. I've been saying this for years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 5 hours ago, Rico said: Every time some BS school rains 3-pointers and upsets a much better team in March Madness, the product is diluted. True..................And, I know it wasn't your point, but I hate how the 3 pointer has changed the game. It's all that matters now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 16, 2020 Author Share Posted April 16, 2020 20 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: FCS starts with 24 teams. D2 has 28. D3 has 32. 32 works for me, more games more fun, more money, win win. 17 hours ago, bbb said: 24+ teams?!? Talk bout diluting the best regular season there is. Works for basketball with March Madness, maybe they can call it December Dominance 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 15 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: Hardly. Is March Madness "diluted" because a champion emerges from a 68 team field? Major college football has always been a beauty contest. It ought to be won on the field from a schedule NOT of your choosing. If I ran things I would include every FBS conference champion in a playoff because every school ought to start the year with a path to the national championship, like in basketball. The conference championship involves yet another game. Exactly how many games should these kids be forced to play? Honestly Promo, would you have a limit in mind? My thing is that no matter how many teams there are in the playoffs, someone is going to be pissed that their team is left out. I do not think that college kids should have to play 16 or 17 games. Basketball is a bad comparison. The injury rate in football is 100%. It is just a matter of how serious one's injuries are. I LOVE college football, but these kids shouldn't have to risk injury (and missing out on millions of dollars) even more than they already do. Jmo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 7 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: 32 works for me, more games more fun, more money, win win. Works for basketball with March Madness, maybe they can call it December Dominance You and Promo need to understand what the regular season means! ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 17, 2020 Author Share Posted April 17, 2020 16 hours ago, bbb said: You and Promo need to understand what the regular season means! ? don't care, want those crazy playoff games.!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 7 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: don't care, want those crazy playoff games.!! But, you quoted me saying this "Talk bout diluting the best regular season there is." - huge games that go on for three months will be rendered practically meaningless. LSU-Bama is the top game of the year for the last decade or so. With this, it wouldn't mean anything since they'd both be getting in the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 If you've got to add games, let it be for only the 4th spot: 3 deserving teams slotted and a 16-team tournament for the 4th slot. That way, there'd only be 1 potential scrub team messing things up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 17, 2020 Author Share Posted April 17, 2020 54 minutes ago, Rico said: If you've got to add games, let it be for only the 4th spot: 3 deserving teams slotted and a 16-team tournament for the 4th slot. That way, there'd only be 1 potential scrub team messing things up. not happening Rico, it wont be 32, but probably 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: not happening Rico, it wont be 32, but probably 8 Last year's LSU-Clemson game was just tremendous, but I know not always the case. Here's AP's Final Top 8: 1. LSU (15-0) 2. Clemson (14-1) 3. Ohio State (13-1) 4. Georgia (12-2) 5. Oregon (12-2) 6. Florida (11-2) 7. Oklahoma (12-2) 8. Alabama (11-2) You really want to take a chance on Oregon-Florida for the championship? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: not happening Rico, it wont be 32, but probably 8 They better have the first round at home fields. These fans are not going to neutral sites three weeks in a row. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 18, 2020 Author Share Posted April 18, 2020 10 hours ago, Rico said: Last year's LSU-Clemson game was just tremendous, but I know not always the case. Here's AP's Final Top 8: 1. LSU (15-0) 2. Clemson (14-1) 3. Ohio State (13-1) 4. Georgia (12-2) 5. Oregon (12-2) 6. Florida (11-2) 7. Oklahoma (12-2) 8. Alabama (11-2) You really want to take a chance on Oregon-Florida for the championship? Yep!! But do you really think that would happen?? Highly unlikely. I need more teams, i would have liked to have seen Wisconsin, Penn st, Utah, Minnesota, USC, Texas, some others that i cant think of, in the Tourney. 9 hours ago, bbb said: They better have the first round at home fields. These fans are not going to neutral sites three weeks in a row. I would assume the higher seed plays at home, not sure what they have in mind. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Yep!! But do you really think that would happen?? Highly unlikely. I need more teams, i would have liked to have seen Wisconsin, Penn st, Utah, Minnesota, USC, Texas, some others that i cant think of, in the Tourney. I would assume the higher seed plays at home, not sure what they have in mind. Minnesota vs. Utah for the National Championship would be a ratings bonanza. Edited April 18, 2020 by Rico Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 19, 2020 Author Share Posted April 19, 2020 17 hours ago, Rico said: Minnesota vs. Utah for the National Championship would be a ratings bonanza. but it would be exciting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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