sherpa Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, WhoTom said: Isn't that Lutheranism? (AKA "Catholic Lite") No. Lutheran ideology is Christianity without Catholic invention. Edited February 5, 2020 by sherpa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 5 hours ago, Irv said: If you believe in a higher power - why do you need a middle man? Never understood organized religion. It’s not the “middle man” as much as it is the community. I don’t love the church, but I LOVE our community. A bunch of people who share beliefs and care for each other is a cool thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 19 minutes ago, Augie said: It’s not the “middle man” as much as it is the community. I don’t love the church, but I LOVE our community. A bunch of people who share beliefs and care for each other is a cool thing. You just basically encapsulated the point of Hebrews 10:24-25. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 On 2/4/2020 at 7:58 PM, SDS said: In the case of the Catholic Church, it wasn’t just a case of predators going through the steps to get access to victims. It’s that the entire church structure knew what was going on and these moral beacons of light tried to hide it at best and enabled more of it at worst. From the Pope on down. Rotten to the core. Decade after decade after decade. Decade?? More like centuries, its been going since the unbiblical doctrine of celibacy was instituted. Abraham Lincoln was a lawyer for a Catholic priest named Charles Chiniquy, who eventually left that church, wrote a book about how they were taught to ask very pornographic questions to the women in the confessional which eventually led to sexual encounters. https://www.chick.com/products/item?stk=0152 On 2/4/2020 at 7:28 PM, ALF said: I'm nearing the end and just don't know what to think any more about religion . https://www.chick.com/products/item?stk=160 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 On 2/4/2020 at 7:58 PM, SDS said: In the case of the Catholic Church, it wasn’t just a case of predators going through the steps to get access to victims. It’s that the entire church structure knew what was going on and these moral beacons of light tried to hide it at best and enabled more of it at worst. From the Pope on down. Rotten to the core. Decade after decade after decade. Everyone has free will to believe as they wish. I respect that in every person who chooses to not follow, nor will I try to change anyone's opinion here. Abuse happened, the ramifications still reverberate and there's a history going back years. St. Joseph Calasanz was incensed at this kind of child abuse in the early to mid-1600s. I simply choose to see the Catholic Church as the best vehicle to a world without abuse and predators. I just hope people can find peace here, which is why we say at the Mass, "Look not on our sins but on the faith of your Church, and graciously grant her peace and unity in accordance with your will, who live and reign forever and ever." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Change male priest to female teacher and we would be celebrating the kid and commenting on the teacher..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 14 hours ago, Augie said: It’s not the “middle man” as much as it is the community. I don’t love the church, but I LOVE our community. A bunch of people who share beliefs and care for each other is a cool thing. Thats why ya got #BillsMafia!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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