The Next Pandemic: SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19

[BillsFanNC]

4 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

Greatest post of all times

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nonsense. None of this happened. None of our leaders ever said if you get the vaccine you won't get covid either. Most importantly when Joe Biden said you're not going to get covid if you get these vaccinations he never said that.

 

These are all MAGAnon conspiracy theories.

 

Just ask @redtail hawk. He'll set you straight. 

Edited August 1, 2023 by BillsFanNC

[Joe Ferguson forever]

7 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

Greatest post of all times

 

 

 

 

 

the whole world is out to get you.  it's a giant conspiracy.

 

but trump cares about you...nope, he doesn't. nor does the whole world want to get you.  no one x your friends and family care (and if you're lucky and smart, your health care providers).  true for all of us...

 

and another fake MD- 

Simon Goddek (@goddeketal)

Instagram

https://www.instagram.com › goddeketal

PhD. Author. Ecopreneur. Scientist. System Dynamics Aquaponics Nutrition 🏋️ Vitamin D ☀️ COVID publication: https://cutt.ly/ufz0aIR.

note that the link to his paper goes nowhere...

 

Edited August 1, 2023 by redtail hawk

[Kemp]

https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/status/1686030496252276736?t=7Q_6OZKr5ioBOXuad2iY8w&s=19

[Joe Ferguson forever]

8 minutes ago, Kemp said:

https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/status/1686030496252276736?t=7Q_6OZKr5ioBOXuad2iY8w&s=19

even their friends and family dying doesn't change their minds.  I saw it several times in the pandemic:  Systematic irrationality.  Now that is a mental disorder we should work on curing.  We know we can find the afflicted at trump events....

[Tommy Callahan]

LOL. the mob is attacking the messenger cause they dont want to be reminded that they were/are the authoritarian mob that was totally used by big pharm/MSM to push lock downs and fear.  

 

 

 

 

Edited August 1, 2023 by Chris farley

[Joe Ferguson forever]

3 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

LOL. the mob is attacking the messenger cause they dont want to be reminded that they were/are the authoritarian mob that was totally used by big pharm.

 

 

I'm not dead.  Alive and well.  And not used.  Sadly, per Kemp's relevant link, many more R's are....but they apparently died sans the yoke of authoritarianism....Victory!

Edited August 1, 2023 by redtail hawk

[Tommy Callahan]

3 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

I'm not dead.  Alive and well.  And not used.  Sadly, per Kemp's relevant link, many more R's are....

Llol, last week you all said the excess deaths were climate related.

 

 the formula in that link doesn't even have a valid sample size to be statistically viable.  but makes for good stories in MSM

 

 

Edited August 1, 2023 by Chris farley

[Kemp]

2 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

I'm not dead.  Alive and well.  And not used.  Sadly, per Kemp's relevant link, many more R's are....but they apparently died sans the yoke of authoritarianism....Victory!

 

This is why Farley is the most amusing poster here.

[Joe Ferguson forever]

5 minutes ago, Kemp said:

 

This is why Farley is the most amusing poster here.

idk.  the eyeballs get tiresome.  I like the ones who get steaming mad when losing an argument.  It's like a boxer who can't stay down and takes multiple 8 counts on his way to brain injury.  But you're right - funny in a sad kind of way.

Edited August 1, 2023 by redtail hawk

[Tommy Callahan]

3 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

idk.  the eyeballs get tiresome.  I like the ones who get steaming mad when losing an argument.  It's like a boxer who can't stay down and takes multiple 8 counts on his way to brain injury.

 you didn't make a point. just told a story then ran with the usual attempt at ad hominem from the cool kid's table. 

 

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

13 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

Llol, last week you all said the excess deaths were climate related.

 

 the formula in that link doesn't even have a valid sample size to be statistically viable.  but makes for good stories in MSM

 

 

try this one:  https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/political-party-affiliation-linked-excess-covid-deaths

I only scanned it and it's the first that came up from a search of "covid deaths by political affiliation".  Try for yourself.  maybe you can find a rebuttal by Dr Oz, catcrap or Joe Rogan.

 

"If differences in COVID-19 vaccination by political party affiliation persist, particularly in the absence of other pandemic mitigation strategies, the higher excess death rate observed among Republican voters may continue through subsequent stages of the pandemic," the authors concluded.

WAKE THE F UP!

Edited August 1, 2023 by redtail hawk

[Tommy Callahan]

1 minute ago, redtail hawk said:

try this one:  https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/political-party-affiliation-linked-excess-covid-deaths

I only scanned it and it's the first that came up from a search of "covid deaths by political affiliation".  Try for yourself.  maybe you can find a rebuttal by Dr Oz, catcrap or Joe Rogan.

Na, that's your thing.

 

it's pretty simple. all they did was choose two red counties, and two blue counties and argue the fact the red county (only two of each used used) had (unexplained) deaths than the two dem leaning counties.  And by red or blue, they mean 60%.  And each of the counties had over 300K people.  that's a lot of slop to argue the individual deaths were R, or D.   based on if the county went R or D.

 

The actual linked report.

 

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2807617

 

“There are three kinds of lies: Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics”

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

15 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

cool kid's table

wasn't aware that was my seating assignment.  But, cool!. Cool is good these hot days.

[Tommy Callahan]

1 minute ago, redtail hawk said:

wasn't aware that was my seating assignment.  But, cool!. Cool is good these hot days.

I was just trying to make you feal better. didn't want to hurt any feelings.

 

 

 

its actually the special table.

 

 

[Big Blitz]

34 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

I'm not dead.  Alive and well.  And not used.  Sadly, per Kemp's relevant link, many more R's are....but they apparently died sans the yoke of authoritarianism....Victory!

 

How’s Bronny?  

[Joe Ferguson forever]

12 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

Na, that's your thing.

 

it's pretty simple. all they did was choose two red counties, and two blue counties and argue the fact the red county (only two of each used used) had (unexplained) deaths than the two dem leaning counties.  And by red or blue, they mean 60%.  And each of the counties had over 300K people.  that's a lot of slop to argue the individual deaths were R, or D.   based on if the county went R or D.

 

The actual linked report.

 

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2807617

 

“There are three kinds of lies: Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics”

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If I were to make an argument against the JAMA article it would be that these results could confound the Yale study:  https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/study-finds-widening-gap-in-death-rates-between-us-areas-that-vote-for-democratic-rather-than-republican-party/

R counties had worse healthcare outcomes before the pandemic.  It seems self harm is inherent in that population.  Perhaps they don't like themselves very much.

2 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

How’s Bronny?  

no idea.

Edited August 1, 2023 by redtail hawk

[Big Blitz]

51 minutes ago, Kemp said:

https://twitter.com/TheRickWilson/status/1686030496252276736?t=7Q_6OZKr5ioBOXuad2iY8w&s=19

 

This might be presented as exhibit A as to what a total sham this is.  
 

You clowns always in the face of falling for it, turned to fake data about R state “death” rates vs D state.  
 

Rewrite history all you’d like we have the receipts.  
 

And yes, you put masks on 2 year olds.  And recommend masks during sex.  And closed beaches.  You all should be sent straight to the sun.  

[Joe Ferguson forever]

5 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

This might be presented as exhibit A as to what a total sham this is.  
 

You clowns always in the face of falling for it, turned to fake data about R state “death” rates vs D state.  
 

Rewrite history all you’d like we have the receipts.  
 

And yes, you put masks on 2 year olds.  And recommend masks during sex.  And closed beaches.  You all should be sent straight to the sun.  

https://www.latimes.com/sports/story/2023-07-31/bronny-james-cardiac-arrest-recovery-lebron-james-usc

seems briny is doing well.  Looks like he received excellent care from skilled physicians.  But they're likely elitist with a political agenda and u wouldn't want to associate with them.  why do u ask?  and yes, I see what spell check did and it's ok.  It was a salty answer.

Edited August 1, 2023 by redtail hawk

[Tommy Callahan]

Just now, redtail hawk said:

If I were to make an argument against the JAMA article it would be that these results could confound the Yale study:  https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/study-finds-widening-gap-in-death-rates-between-us-areas-that-vote-for-democratic-rather-than-republican-party/

R counties had worse healthcare outcomes before the pandemic.  It seems self harm is inherent in that population.

Democratic areas saw greater improvements over the past two decades 

Findings build on previous evidence that more liberal policies, laws, and regulations may be associated with better health outcomes

Americans living in counties that voted Democratic during presidential elections from 2000 to 2016 experienced larger decreases in death rates than residents of counties that voted for a Republican candidate, finds a study published by The BMJ today.

 

you saying the country's largest hospitals are in cities?  Say it isn't so.

 

Between 2001 and 2019, mortality rates decreased by 22% in Democratic counties (from 850 to 664 per 100,000), but by only half that (11%) in Republican counties (from 867 to 771 per 100,000).

Consequently, the gap in mortality rates between Republican and Democratic counties jumped by 541%, from 16.7 per 100,000 in 2001 to 107 deaths per 100,000 in 2019. 

So this was a thing prior to the election or covid?  

 

 

Sample size?   Scientific?

 

Rural Republican counties experienced the highest mortality rates and the least improvement over the study period, suggesting that the political environment has an important role to play in the widening urban-rural mortality gap, say the researchers.

 

Externally peer reviewed? Yes (research); No (linked editorial)
Evidence type: Observational; Opinion
Subjects: US population

 

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

4 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

Democratic areas saw greater improvements over the past two decades 

Findings build on previous evidence that more liberal policies, laws, and regulations may be associated with better health outcomes

Americans living in counties that voted Democratic during presidential elections from 2000 to 2016 experienced larger decreases in death rates than residents of counties that voted for a Republican candidate, finds a study published by The BMJ today.

 

you saying the country's largest hospitals are in cities?  Say it isn't so.

 

Between 2001 and 2019, mortality rates decreased by 22% in Democratic counties (from 850 to 664 per 100,000), but by only half that (11%) in Republican counties (from 867 to 771 per 100,000).

Consequently, the gap in mortality rates between Republican and Democratic counties jumped by 541%, from 16.7 per 100,000 in 2001 to 107 deaths per 100,000 in 2019. 

So this was a thing prior to the election or covid?  

 

 

Sample size?   Scientific?

 

Rural Republican counties experienced the highest mortality rates and the least improvement over the study period, suggesting that the political environment has an important role to play in the widening urban-rural mortality gap, say the researchers.

 

Externally peer reviewed? Yes (research); No (linked editorial)
Evidence type: Observational; Opinion
Subjects: US population

 

 

the raw numbers are what they are.  the conclusions are opinion.  how do u explain the raw numbers?  Don't u see?  we are trying to help but u constantly throw it back in our face.  Of course, there is self interest involved:  We don't want the next pandemic to be worse.

Edited August 1, 2023 by redtail hawk