ziltoid Posted September 25, 2020 Posted September 25, 2020 5 hours ago, Sherlock Holmes said: I won't get the vaccination, but it's not Trump that I distrust, it's the industry feeding him the info... Also you are not a fool, it is your choice to do what you want when it comes to your health, in fact be my guest, have all my doses B-Man, you'll need more than one if you pay attention and take what the Pharm companies/Dr's say as gospel... Not anymore, it's vaccine or be shut out of everything, you'll see.
Reality Check Posted September 25, 2020 Posted September 25, 2020 1 hour ago, BeerLeagueHockey said: Not anymore, it's vaccine or be shut out of everything, you'll see. False.
SoCal Deek Posted September 25, 2020 Posted September 25, 2020 I listened to a radio interview with one of the top guys at HHS last week. It was fascinating. Did you know they already have about 200 million doses of the vaccines produced, stockpiled, and ready for deployment? They’re waiting for FDA approval on the trials. The federal government authorized the production out ahead of approval in order to speed up deployment. They’ll need about 700 million doses since some of the product is a booster shot and a second dose. They’ll have that by February. And....the strategy is to give it to the vulnerable population first, before you’ll ever need to stand in a line.
spartacus Posted September 25, 2020 Posted September 25, 2020 15 hours ago, Tiberius said: 60% say they won’t take first generation vaccine. Don’t trust Trump or maybe, a vaccine is not needed for a sickness where 99.5% recover 8 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: I listened to a radio interview with one of the top guys at HHS last week. It was fascinating. Did you know they already have about 200 million doses of the vaccines produced, stockpiled, and ready for deployment? They’re waiting for FDA approval on the trials. The federal government authorized the production out ahead of approval in order to speed up deployment. They’ll need about 700 million doses since some of the product is a booster shot and a second dose. They’ll have that by February. And....the strategy is to give it to the vulnerable population first, before you’ll ever need to stand in a line. they developed the vaccine at the same time they developed the virus 3 1
GG Posted September 25, 2020 Posted September 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, spartacus said: or maybe, a vaccine is not needed for a sickness where 99.5% recover they developed the vaccine at the same time they developed the virus In what world do you develop a vaccine for a novel coronavirus in 4 months? 1
Gary M Posted September 25, 2020 Posted September 25, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, GG said: In what world do you develop a vaccine for a novel coronavirus in 4 months? Trump world. From what I've hear the development is not the lengthy part, setting up distribution is. In this case they have been doing them in tandem to streamline and shorten the time. Edited September 25, 2020 by Gary M
Alaska Darin Posted September 25, 2020 Posted September 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, GG said: In what world do you develop a vaccine for a novel coronavirus in 4 months? The one where they've had access to SARS-Covid 1 for years and the two are like almost 80% similar.
GG Posted September 25, 2020 Posted September 25, 2020 Just now, Alaska Darin said: The one where they've had access to SARS-Covid 1 for years and the two are like almost 80% similar. Is there a SARS-1 vaccine?
Reality Check Posted September 25, 2020 Posted September 25, 2020 12 minutes ago, spartacus said: or maybe, a vaccine is not needed for a sickness where 99.5% recover they developed the vaccine at the same time they developed the virus True story.
SoCal Deek Posted September 25, 2020 Posted September 25, 2020 29 minutes ago, GG said: In what world do you develop a vaccine for a novel coronavirus in 4 months? It’s called SCIENCE!! There are actually six companies working on vaccines. They may ultimately roll out all six, or the FDA may only approve two or three of them. Trump isn’t making the vaccine, people! It’s being made by SCIENTISTS! Geez the stupidity is growing daily around here. I’m glad we’re not trying to get to the moon. Even JFK would’ve rolled his eyes at the Left Wing Mob.
GG Posted September 25, 2020 Posted September 25, 2020 1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said: It’s called SCIENCE!! There are actually six companies working on vaccines. They may ultimately roll out all six, or the FDA may only approve two or three of them. Trump isn’t making the vaccine, people! It’s being made by SCIENTISTS! Geez the stupidity is growing daily around here. I’m glad we’re not trying to get to the moon. Even JFK would’ve rolled his eyes at the Left Wing Mob. SCIENCE doesn't bend time (unless you are Greggy) Enlighten me how you go from starting the work on a vaccine for a novel coronavirus in March to having 200 million doses stockpiled in a warehouse in September? 1
Reality Check Posted September 25, 2020 Posted September 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: It’s called SCIENCE!! There are actually six companies working on vaccines. They may ultimately roll out all six, or the FDA may only approve two or three of them. Trump isn’t making the vaccine, people! It’s being made by SCIENTISTS! Geez the stupidity is growing daily around here. I’m glad we’re not trying to get to the moon. Even JFK would’ve rolled his eyes at the Left Wing Mob. Good, it's settled then. You first...
SoCal Deek Posted September 25, 2020 Posted September 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, GG said: SCIENCE doesn't bend time (unless you are Greggy) Enlighten me how you go from starting the work on a vaccine for a novel coronavirus in March to having 200 million doses stockpiled in a warehouse in September? Are you in the manufacturing business? Don’t be an idiot! We’ve made millions and millions of masks. We’ve made a hundred million test kits. I’m quoting facts. You’re just invoking conspiracy theories. 1
BillsFanNC Posted September 25, 2020 Posted September 25, 2020 Just now, GG said: SCIENCE doesn't bend time (unless you are Greggy) Enlighten me how you go from starting the work on a vaccine for a novel coronavirus in March to having 200 million doses stockpiled in a warehouse in September? Cutting back regulatory red tape. Typically they do the all the upfront science before committing to manufacturing, here they did the development and manufacturing in parallel. The actual science required to drop in a vaccine target and develop a working vaccine isn't the rate limiting step, especially when its an all hands on deck situation, its the regulatory bureaucracy red tape that is. 1
SoCal Deek Posted September 25, 2020 Posted September 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Reality Check said: Good, it's settled then. You first... I’m not ‘quite’ old enough, nor do I have the pre existing conditions that would have me in the initial deployment.
Reality Check Posted September 25, 2020 Posted September 25, 2020 1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said: I’m not ‘quite’ old enough, nor do I have the pre existing conditions that would have me in the initial deployment. That's the spirit.
SoCal Deek Posted September 25, 2020 Posted September 25, 2020 Just now, BillsFanNC said: Cutting back regulatory red tape. Typically they do the all the upfront science before committing to manufacturing, here they did the development and manufacturing in parallel. The actual science required to drop in a vaccine target and develop a working vaccine isn't the rate limiting step, especially when its an all hands on deck situation, its the regulatory bureaucracy red tape that is. Correct! The HHS official said that they directed them to start production. If the vaccine doesn’t get FDA approval, they’ll throw out the stockpile. The investment wasn’t that significant in the bigger picture. 1 minute ago, Reality Check said: That's the spirit. Once again, we try to have an actual conversation about an interesting element of the pandemic story....and it becomes littered with childish jabs and nonsense
Reality Check Posted September 25, 2020 Posted September 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Correct! The HHS official said that they directed them to start production. If the vaccine doesn’t get FDA approval, they’ll throw out the stockpile. The investment wasn’t that significant in the bigger picture. Once again, we try to have an actual conversation about an interesting element of the pandemic story....and it becomes littered with childish jabs and nonsense Sorry Deek, but you overestimate the quality of said "conversation" to begin with. Anyone who wants to take the shot when it becomes available should do so. I will wait and watch while this global social experiment plays out to its conclusion.
Buffalo_Gal Posted September 25, 2020 Posted September 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, Reality Check said: Sorry Deek, but you overestimate the quality of said "conversation" to begin with. Anyone who wants to take the shot when it becomes available should do so. I will wait and watch while this global social experiment plays out to its conclusion. I too will wait (however, I suspect our "freedoms" in blue states will only be restored with vaccine compliance), but it would be awesome if as a byproduct, they make advancements in a cure for the common cold.
Reality Check Posted September 25, 2020 Posted September 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Gal said: I too will wait (however, I suspect our "freedoms" in blue states will only be restored with vaccine compliance), but it would be awesome if as a byproduct, they make advancements in a cure for the common cold. Prevention is worth a pound of cure, and that prevention lies with lifestyle and dietary changes and commitment to what works for you. Time will most certainly tell as we wait and watch. 1
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